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Re: What would it take to get Reggie Jackson?
« Reply #15 on: January 10, 2015, 10:44:39 AM »

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I like Jackson as well but you sign him and you essentially wasted your #6 pick on Marcus Smart.

I think a three-guard rotation of Jackson, Smart, and Bradley could exist just fine.

It could exist but did you draft Smart to "exist" in a 3 guard rotation? Or did you draft him to be the PG of the future? By signing Jackson you have officially given up on Marcus as the PG of the future. If that's the case, the pick would have been better used on someone else.

Re: What would it take to get Reggie Jackson?
« Reply #16 on: January 10, 2015, 11:30:19 AM »

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I like Jackson as well but you sign him and you essentially wasted your #6 pick on Marcus Smart.

I think a three-guard rotation of Jackson, Smart, and Bradley could exist just fine.

It could exist but did you draft Smart to "exist" in a 3 guard rotation? Or did you draft him to be the PG of the future? By signing Jackson you have officially given up on Marcus as the PG of the future. If that's the case, the pick would have been better used on someone else.

Jackson can play PG and Smart can play SG....that's potentially the best backcourt in the NBA in 2-3 years time.
Doesn't limit our options with Marcus Smart.
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Re: What would it take to get Reggie Jackson?
« Reply #17 on: January 10, 2015, 11:38:47 AM »

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I like Jackson as well but you sign him and you essentially wasted your #6 pick on Marcus Smart.

I think a three-guard rotation of Jackson, Smart, and Bradley could exist just fine.

It could exist but did you draft Smart to "exist" in a 3 guard rotation? Or did you draft him to be the PG of the future? By signing Jackson you have officially given up on Marcus as the PG of the future. If that's the case, the pick would have been better used on someone else.

Smart was drafted because he was the BPA.  It was between him and Randle and Ainge preferred Smart.  Ainge has said that Smart isn't a born PG.  I agree with that based on what I've seen of him in college and on the C's.  My hope is Smart displaces Bradley as starting SG next season.  Regarding Jackson, we can get him in free agency so I'm not sure I'd bother to trade for him now.  I'd rather see how the draft plays out first.  We could end up with Mudiay. 

Re: What would it take to get Reggie Jackson?
« Reply #18 on: January 10, 2015, 11:48:27 AM »

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I dont see danny trading for reggie. If interested will try to offer more money vs okc in the offseason

Re: What would it take to get Reggie Jackson?
« Reply #19 on: January 10, 2015, 11:49:52 AM »

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I like Jackson as well but you sign him and you essentially wasted your #6 pick on Marcus Smart.

I think a three-guard rotation of Jackson, Smart, and Bradley could exist just fine.

It could exist but did you draft Smart to "exist" in a 3 guard rotation? Or did you draft him to be the PG of the future? By signing Jackson you have officially given up on Marcus as the PG of the future. If that's the case, the pick would have been better used on someone else.
I think people are way too focused on positions. Jalen Rose always says in his podcast that positions were invented so the lamen could follow basketball. Jackson and Smart are big enough to start in the back court together and guard any back court in the league.

Phoenix starts two pgs, and has a third off the bench and it works fine for them.

I think it's more accurate to say that if we sign Jackson, then him and Smart are the back court of the future.
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Re: What would it take to get Reggie Jackson?
« Reply #20 on: January 10, 2015, 11:51:06 AM »

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I like Jackson as well but you sign him and you essentially wasted your #6 pick on Marcus Smart.

I think a three-guard rotation of Jackson, Smart, and Bradley could exist just fine.

It could exist but did you draft Smart to "exist" in a 3 guard rotation? Or did you draft him to be the PG of the future? By signing Jackson you have officially given up on Marcus as the PG of the future. If that's the case, the pick would have been better used on someone else.

If Smart is a perennial Sixth Man of the Year candidate, that wouldn't be a waste of a draft pick.
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Re: What would it take to get Reggie Jackson?
« Reply #21 on: January 10, 2015, 11:53:05 AM »

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Probably around $14-15 million per year.

Yep.  OKC can't afford to match a very large offer.  Make him the largest offer this summer and he's a Celtic, no draft picks required.

If you really want to go after Jackson, offer him a very player-friendly deal structured similarly to what Chandler Parsons got.
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Re: What would it take to get Reggie Jackson?
« Reply #22 on: January 10, 2015, 12:01:28 PM »

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If you have a point guard, who's strong point is scoring like Jackson, he will blend very well with a Marcus Smart type of skill set. Marcus having decent point guard skills will help Jackson to be who he is.

Someone has to play defense in the back court. All teams should have a strong back court defender. Marcus can cover either PG and SG, and disrupt opposing offenses. Plus Smart will end up a decent scorer as he develops.

Bradley is who he is, he defends well, he's a streaky shooter, a hard worker, he would look best coming off the bench.

Re: What would it take to get Reggie Jackson?
« Reply #23 on: January 10, 2015, 12:11:16 PM »

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You also have to consider that the Thunder got Waiters, anticipating that they wouldn't be able to keep Jackson this offseason. If Waiters works out, they may look to trade Jackson before the deadline. If they did trade him, would Jackson remain a restricted free agent under his new team?

Re: What would it take to get Reggie Jackson?
« Reply #24 on: January 10, 2015, 12:13:19 PM »

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Probably around $14-15 million per year.

Yep.  OKC can't afford to match a very large offer.  Make him the largest offer this summer and he's a Celtic, no draft picks required.
I agree. We go after him in the offseason.

Anyone know what our cap situation is now that Green is off the books?

Accounting for cap holds for draft picks (I'm giving us the 5th pick), including Nelson's option and guessing the cap will be around $67 million, somewhere near $25 million.
That's an interesting point regarding the cap holds on draft picks. Especially for next year when we have four first rounders. Hopefully these draft picks work out because they will cost us potential free agents.

If we have 25 million this year, I would go after Jackson for the 14 million like you suggested. We could offer the other 10 mil for Asik.

Cap holds for 1st rounders aren't that expensive once you get out of the lottery.  Combine that with the fact the cap could literally jump $25 million between summer 2015 and 2016, and it's just not something to worry about at all.

Also, the likelihood of us making 6 first round selections in the next two years is pretty small.  This is part one of the trades.  Part 2 will be to use some of the many draft picks to acquire star players on longer deals.
I follow your logic but if we are going to use these draft picks to land a star, don't we have to find some teams with disgruntled all stars? The only one I can think of is Melo and it looks like NY is reloading this offseason.

DeMarcus Cousins is the first place I look.  He's not happy after the Malone firing (and I don't blame him -- Sacramento is idiotic.)  Wallace's contract to match, plus a boat-load of picks, and it can be done.  He's under contract for three years after this one -- a free agent like Reggie Jackson, Marcus Smart, Avery Bradley, and DeMarcus Cousins could be a nice core, with a lot of cap room in 2016  and still some amount of picks could turn things around in a hurry.  All is not bleak, and June and July could start to paint a bright new future.

Re: What would it take to get Reggie Jackson?
« Reply #25 on: January 10, 2015, 12:15:18 PM »

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You also have to consider that the Thunder got Waiters, anticipating that they wouldn't be able to keep Jackson this offseason. If Waiters works out, they may look to trade Jackson before the deadline. If they did trade him, would Jackson remain a restricted free agent under his new team?

I find it highly unlikely they will trade Jackson.  Yes, he's gone after this year.  But he's good and makes their team better this year, and they want to win.  Trading him for future draft picks is a good way to encourage Kevin Durant to leave in 2016.

But if he's traded, he's a restricted free agent for whomever gets him.

Re: What would it take to get Reggie Jackson?
« Reply #26 on: January 10, 2015, 12:20:57 PM »

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I don't see the fascination with Jackson.  He's a nice player, but he's been in the league for 4 years and he is a fairly average.  Doesn't shoot well, isn't a great passer.  Reminds me of a Brandon Knight type player.  I think he would be a below average starting point guard.  No way do I think he is worth crazy money.

Re: What would it take to get Reggie Jackson?
« Reply #27 on: January 10, 2015, 12:27:50 PM »

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You also have to consider that the Thunder got Waiters, anticipating that they wouldn't be able to keep Jackson this offseason. If Waiters works out, they may look to trade Jackson before the deadline. If they did trade him, would Jackson remain a restricted free agent under his new team?

I find it highly unlikely they will trade Jackson.  Yes, he's gone after this year.  But he's good and makes their team better this year, and they want to win.  Trading him for future draft picks is a good way to encourage Kevin Durant to leave in 2016.

But if he's traded, he's a restricted free agent for whomever gets him.
Interesting. I would give up a piece like Sullinger with the Mavs pick to know we could match any offer for Jackson in the offseason.

Re: What would it take to get Reggie Jackson?
« Reply #28 on: January 10, 2015, 02:10:51 PM »

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I don't get the fascination with Jackson. He can't shoot. We've been down that road before. And Smart ain't exactly Dell Curry. Save the money for another day.
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Re: What would it take to get Reggie Jackson?
« Reply #29 on: January 11, 2015, 07:37:32 PM »

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I like Jackson as well but you sign him and you essentially wasted your #6 pick on Marcus Smart.

I think a three-guard rotation of Jackson, Smart, and Bradley could exist just fine.
For sure.

I agree too, but Bradley is a very expensive backup guard.