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Re: Danny Ainge has informed Brandan Wright that he's on the trading block
« Reply #45 on: January 09, 2015, 01:01:15 PM »

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Are we positive Nelson is a buyout candidate? He has an option for next year at 2.8 million. I don't know if it's a sure thing he can make that back.

Re: Danny Ainge has informed Brandan Wright that he's on the trading block
« Reply #46 on: January 09, 2015, 01:05:29 PM »

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With Wright having put up numbers like 72.4 percent from the field so far this season, and ranking 10th in the league in PER at 24.27, numbers that most probably can only go down if he plays here (and what with our log jam up front), it won't surprise me if Wright stays glued to the bench or the inactive roster until he's traded.  In fact, that's probably the wisest play.

Re: Danny Ainge has informed Brandan Wright that he's on the trading block
« Reply #47 on: January 09, 2015, 01:10:55 PM »

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Are we positive Nelson is a buyout candidate? He has an option for next year at 2.8 million. I don't know if it's a sure thing he can make that back.

Nelson opted _out_ of $8M for his final year in order to leave the rebuilding Magic (a team he had been with forever) in order to go join a contender for less than that spread across two years.

I suspect that he's not in it for the money at this point.

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Re: Danny Ainge has informed Brandan Wright that he's on the trading block
« Reply #48 on: January 09, 2015, 01:11:14 PM »

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Danny Ainge has informed Brandan Wright that he's on the trading block, and he should expect to be with another team.

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This really is unusual news though; not that Danny is trying to trade anyone and everyone, but that he actually told the guy upfront that it was happening.

It's probably as much an explanation to the guy as to why he's not playing as anything else.  If he didn't know he was being traded, he'd probably take a lot more issue with not seeing time.

Re: Danny Ainge has informed Brandan Wright that he's on the trading block
« Reply #49 on: January 09, 2015, 01:14:18 PM »

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Are we positive Nelson is a buyout candidate? He has an option for next year at 2.8 million. I don't know if it's a sure thing he can make that back.

Nelson opted _out_ of $8M for his final year in order to leave the rebuilding Magic (a team he had been with forever) in order to go join a contender for less than that spread across two years.

I suspect that he's not in it for the money at this point.

He should have gone for the money.

Re: Danny Ainge has informed Brandan Wright that he's on the trading block
« Reply #50 on: January 09, 2015, 01:18:36 PM »

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A trade for the two players would work.

http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=p8tf4j2

Maybe a little much to give up for WAS?
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Re: Danny Ainge has informed Brandan Wright that he's on the trading block
« Reply #51 on: January 09, 2015, 01:31:04 PM »

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Are we positive Nelson is a buyout candidate? He has an option for next year at 2.8 million. I don't know if it's a sure thing he can make that back.

Nelson opted _out_ of $8M for his final year in order to leave the rebuilding Magic (a team he had been with forever) in order to go join a contender for less than that spread across two years.

I suspect that he's not in it for the money at this point.

I don't think this is right.  Nelson was waived by the Magic.

http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/11158495/orlando-magic-waive-veteran-guard-jameer-nelson

He did opt out in 2012, only to re-sign with the them though, and most likely knew the Magic were about to rebuild as Dwight was traded a month later to nobody's surprise.

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Re: Danny Ainge has informed Brandan Wright that he's on the trading block
« Reply #52 on: January 09, 2015, 01:34:19 PM »

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Toronto looks like a great partner. Wright for Hayes and a pick (protected 1st) or two (second rounders) looks like a good deal for both.

http://www.basketballinsiders.com/nba-am-trades-are-in-the-air/

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The Raptors are looking. They are clearly in the market for a defensive minded big man, preferably at the power forward spot, but sources close to the situation say the Raptors are not locked in on any one situation.

The Raptors also don’t have a lot to offer as their core guys are deemed pretty untouchable, which means the chips on the table likely include players like Landry Fields (6.25 million), Chuck Hayes ($5.95 million), Tyler Hansbrough ($3.32 million) and long-time Raptor Amir Johnson ($7.00 million).

There is a ton of salary in those contracts, but not exactly the kind of players that other teams get excited about. The fact that all of them are ending contracts could help in a deal, but they don’t seem overly desirable as roster players.

Since when is Brandan Wright a defensive minded big? Yes, he's athletic but he's never been much of a rim protector.

Wright is much better suited as a PF than he is a C. As a PF he has the length and athleticism to be impactful as a defender. Let's not forget he was averaging 1.6 blocks in less than 20 mpg for Dallas.

Except, he was averaging those blocks while playing almost exclusively at C.   Wright played the vast majority (over 90%) of his minutes for Dallas this year at center and only a tiny handful at PF.

So I'm not sure how that makes him 'much better suited as a PF'.

PFs today are expected to be able to play away from the basket on both ends a little more than centers are.   Wright doesn't really seem to have a game away from the basket.

Wright was playing out of position at C. His natural spot is at the 4. He might not have a perimeter game, but he's excellent in the pick and roll. Coincidentally, Lowry is one the best pnr PG's in the league.

Re: Danny Ainge has informed Brandan Wright that he's on the trading block
« Reply #53 on: January 09, 2015, 01:36:28 PM »

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Are we positive Nelson is a buyout candidate? He has an option for next year at 2.8 million. I don't know if it's a sure thing he can make that back.

Nelson opted _out_ of $8M for his final year in order to leave the rebuilding Magic (a team he had been with forever) in order to go join a contender for less than that spread across two years.

I suspect that he's not in it for the money at this point.

I don't think this is right.  Nelson was waived by the Magic.

http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/11158495/orlando-magic-waive-veteran-guard-jameer-nelson

He did opt out in 2012, only to re-sign with the them though, and most likely knew the Magic were about to rebuild as Dwight was traded a month later to nobody's surprise.

Yeah, he's incorrect.

http://www.nba.com/magic/orlando-magic-waive-jameer-nelson

Re: Danny Ainge has informed Brandan Wright that he's on the trading block
« Reply #54 on: January 09, 2015, 01:56:57 PM »

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Toronto looks like a great partner. Wright for Hayes and a pick (protected 1st) or two (second rounders) looks like a good deal for both.

http://www.basketballinsiders.com/nba-am-trades-are-in-the-air/

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The Raptors are looking. They are clearly in the market for a defensive minded big man, preferably at the power forward spot, but sources close to the situation say the Raptors are not locked in on any one situation.

The Raptors also don’t have a lot to offer as their core guys are deemed pretty untouchable, which means the chips on the table likely include players like Landry Fields (6.25 million), Chuck Hayes ($5.95 million), Tyler Hansbrough ($3.32 million) and long-time Raptor Amir Johnson ($7.00 million).

There is a ton of salary in those contracts, but not exactly the kind of players that other teams get excited about. The fact that all of them are ending contracts could help in a deal, but they don’t seem overly desirable as roster players.

Since when is Brandan Wright a defensive minded big? Yes, he's athletic but he's never been much of a rim protector.
the world of nba statistics begs to differ:

when the celtics traded for him he was tied for 6th in the NBA in blocks per 100 possessions (among players who actually play a decent number of minutes). now you just might ask whether these blocks are "empty", as people have argued is the case for Deandre Jordan. that is, he swats shots, but is that all does near the basket?
 
before the trade, wright seemed to be genuinely a positive defensive influence around the rim. opponents were shooting 53.7% on shots within 5 feet of the hoop on wright, which put him around players like Serge Ibaka and Tiago Splitter, both of whom have pretty good defensive reputations.

also, his foul rate is very low for a big man.

we do not have to argue that he is "elite." but he sure is better on defense near the basket than stated above.
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Re: Danny Ainge has informed Brandan Wright that he's on the trading block
« Reply #55 on: January 09, 2015, 01:59:35 PM »

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Are we positive Nelson is a buyout candidate? He has an option for next year at 2.8 million. I don't know if it's a sure thing he can make that back.

Nelson opted _out_ of $8M for his final year in order to leave the rebuilding Magic (a team he had been with forever) in order to go join a contender for less than that spread across two years.

I suspect that he's not in it for the money at this point.

I don't think this is right.  Nelson was waived by the Magic.

http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/11158495/orlando-magic-waive-veteran-guard-jameer-nelson

He did opt out in 2012, only to re-sign with the them though, and most likely knew the Magic were about to rebuild as Dwight was traded a month later to nobody's surprise.

Yeah, he's incorrect.

http://www.nba.com/magic/orlando-magic-waive-jameer-nelson

A buyout necessitates the player being waived.  The difference is that it's a mutual decision, so the player is generally paid a portion of what they're owed as opposed to the full amount.

http://espn.go.com/blog/dallas/mavericks/post/_/id/4703405/jameer-nelson-grateful-magic-let-him-go-to-a-winner

Edit: so yeah, he didn't actually "opt out," but the decision to leave was as much his as it was the Magic's.

Re: Danny Ainge has informed Brandan Wright that he's on the trading block
« Reply #56 on: January 09, 2015, 02:00:32 PM »

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don't forget we gave up dwight powell ---he was not a bad player in my opinion and i watched all his red claw games-obviously dallas felt the same
well, they hide their opinion rather well. since the trade, powell has appeared in only 5 games and logged 11 minutes total. that is 2.2 per game. crowder averaged 10.6 minutes a game for them.
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Re: Danny Ainge has informed Brandan Wright that he's on the trading block
« Reply #57 on: January 09, 2015, 02:10:47 PM »

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Are we positive Nelson is a buyout candidate? He has an option for next year at 2.8 million. I don't know if it's a sure thing he can make that back.

Nelson opted _out_ of $8M for his final year in order to leave the rebuilding Magic (a team he had been with forever) in order to go join a contender for less than that spread across two years.

I suspect that he's not in it for the money at this point.

I don't think this is right.  Nelson was waived by the Magic.

http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/11158495/orlando-magic-waive-veteran-guard-jameer-nelson

He did opt out in 2012, only to re-sign with the them though, and most likely knew the Magic were about to rebuild as Dwight was traded a month later to nobody's surprise.

Yeah, he's incorrect.

http://www.nba.com/magic/orlando-magic-waive-jameer-nelson

A buyout necessitates the player being waived.  The difference is that it's a mutual decision, so the player is generally paid a portion of what they're owed as opposed to the full amount.

http://espn.go.com/blog/dallas/mavericks/post/_/id/4703405/jameer-nelson-grateful-magic-let-him-go-to-a-winner

Edit: so yeah, he didn't actually "opt out," but the decision to leave was as much his as it was the Magic's.

This is not a correct version of history.  Nelson was due $8 million this season from the Magic, but only $2 million of that was guaranteed if he was waived by July 15th.  The negotiation to pay him only $2 million if he was released this year happened not this summer but when when he signed his contract in 2012.  He didn't leave $6 million on the table -- he was released before such negotiations took place.

Assuming he isn't traded, he'll be given a choice of being released this spring to play with a contender and opting out of his next year, or playing out his contract here next year.  The vet min is $1.5 mil next year, so he'd leave about $1.3 mil on the table if he opts out.

Re: Danny Ainge has informed Brandan Wright that he's on the trading block
« Reply #58 on: January 09, 2015, 02:13:25 PM »

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It almost makes you want to cry or beat your head in a wall when you stop and think about this Rondo trade...

Best guesses on my end:

- Nelson gets bought out.  He isn't happy here.  Let him walk.  He'll hook up with a playoff contender and his time here was minimal.  Honestly, I don't blame him.  This really turned out lousy for him.

- Danny gets anything for Wright.  Danny is boxed into a corner - he'll have to settle for what he's given.

I'd send Wright to the Raptors for Chuck Hayes' expiring contract, and would PRY and number one pick from Toronto.  Let Hayes walk as well.

Next up on the get out of Boston list: Jeff Green...  Whereabouts TBD.
crazy, have to keep track of the draft picks that come out of the deal to get a final idea of what we actually traded Rondo for  :-\
so not keeping wright makes it even harder to fathom, we traded a young tall prospect on a cheap contract (powell), nelson is gone gone gone (and can't play that well anymore), wright is going to be flipped into a second rounder? trade exception? who knows …so if we keep crowder we got a backup sf in the deal  :-[
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Re: Danny Ainge has informed Brandan Wright that he's on the trading block
« Reply #59 on: January 09, 2015, 02:23:48 PM »

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I'm thinking folks around here are underestimating Wrights value.  I would be surprised if we did not get a first round pick in the #20 range.