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Re: Wallace: Slow starts aren't Brad's fault, it's on the starters
« Reply #15 on: January 07, 2015, 01:17:19 PM »

Offline Tr1boy

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Wallace is right. Sully, Green, AB have been doing a poor job as starters

Kind of hard to group Sully in with those two as of late.

Sully vs. Chicago: 16 pts, 16 rbds.

Sully vs. CHA: 22 pts, 8 rbds, 4 blks, 2 stls.

Bradley and Green have really slipped recently. I think they're the primary issue right now.

Sully's defense has been less than stellar. 

You can also say Jeff Green was the only one scoring early vs the hornets .   But the bigger picture was that he played uninspired soft defense .

The starters have been getting beatup on the defensive end. Zeller and sully got abused by walker etc. Zeller and sully got beatup pretty good by the Bulls.

They have to foul harder, take more charges. The starting unit in general has to play better D. The ball also is not moving around on the offensive end

Or else CBS needs to start Wrighr, Crowder, Smart

Re: Wallace: Slow starts aren't Brad's fault, it's on the starters
« Reply #16 on: January 07, 2015, 01:18:59 PM »

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Well, Wallace is far smarter than fans give him credit .  He is sitting on a gold mine making millions for doing zip.

That said he makes good points usually . He has no bridge to burn and I think calling em like he sees them.

But.  For the most part .....I disagree with him

The starter are playing like trash .....because Stevens is a poor motivator and is not reaching all the guys .

I still blame it on Stevens ...his hob is to motivate , inspire ,  coach .....and I see very little of that going on during a game. Other than he calls ok time out plays .

Stevens has to take a stand with refs .....protect his players in battle .....I'm not seeing much of  a leader in Stevens ....he is more like a spy ....than a general ....sneaky and quiet.

He needs to get mad and show the players he cares .....by getting on refs and standing behind his players as they are abused

Re: Wallace: Slow starts aren't Brad's fault, it's on the starters
« Reply #17 on: January 07, 2015, 01:28:12 PM »

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I agree with Wallace.  Not just that, but the team has been pretty good when he's played.  It's not his fault that he's planted on the end of a bench as an old vet during a rebuild.  He's earned the right to talk.

Re: Wallace: Slow starts aren't Brad's fault, it's on the starters
« Reply #18 on: January 07, 2015, 01:35:59 PM »

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Wallace is angling for a future assistant coaching job

Re: Wallace: Slow starts aren't Brad's fault, it's on the starters
« Reply #19 on: January 07, 2015, 01:40:48 PM »

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Is it a coincidence that we hear complaining from two guys who play the same position as Jeff Green?
Not at all.  Green's a big reason why its happening.

Re: Wallace: Slow starts aren't Brad's fault, it's on the starters
« Reply #20 on: January 07, 2015, 01:58:20 PM »

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Quote
1990-1991 Minnesota Timberwolves roster.

   Breuer, Randy   
   Brooks, Scott   
   Campbell, Tony   
   Coffey, Richard   
   Corbin, Tyrone   
   Glass, Gerald   
   Godfread, Dan   
   Mitchell, Sam   
   Murphy, Tod   
   Richardson, Pooh   
   Spencer, Felton   
   Thomas, Jim   
   Thornton, Bob       
   West, Doug

That team won 29 games and that talent makes this Celtic team look like the 2003-2004 Detroit Pistons.

Mike

Sadly not what I was referring too.  This was, 1984

"We played like a bunch of sissies," he said afterward. "I know the heart and soul of this team, and today the heart wasn't there, that's for sure. I can't believe a team like this would let L.A. come out and push us around like they did. Today I didn't feel we played hard. We got beat bad, and it's very embarrassing."

http://www.nba.com/history/finals/19831984.html

Re: Wallace: Slow starts aren't Brad's fault, it's on the starters
« Reply #21 on: January 07, 2015, 02:02:14 PM »

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It is one thing when a star of Bird's caliber calls out his team mates,  but Wallace?   

However, I think all the guys on this team respect Wallace.  Nice of him to bail out Brad who has been taking a beating by those who think this team has enough talent, I doubt it will convince the delusional though.

I'm sorry, but you can question GW's fading skills, you can question why an owner would give him that contract, but I'll never question GW leaving it all out on the court!  If you could bottle that effort and put it in whatever our players are drinking, we'd be a hundred percent better immediately!!

Re: Wallace: Slow starts aren't Brad's fault, it's on the starters
« Reply #22 on: January 07, 2015, 02:05:11 PM »

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Green and Bradley suck.

Next.

Re: Wallace: Slow starts aren't Brad's fault, it's on the starters
« Reply #23 on: January 07, 2015, 02:07:41 PM »

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It is one thing when a star of Bird's caliber calls out his team mates,  but Wallace?   

However, I think all the guys on this team respect Wallace.  Nice of him to bail out Brad who has been taking a beating by those who think this team has enough talent, I doubt it will convince the delusional though.

I'm sorry, but you can question GW's fading skills, you can question why an owner would give him that contract, but I'll never question GW leaving it all out on the court!  If you could bottle that effort and put it in whatever our players are drinking, we'd be a hundred percent better immediately!!

Yeah, it's no accident that Wallace and Crowder are saying there's no excuse to not always play hard, while Green coughs up that either winning or getting down on yourself or simply not being able to get up for games are all excuses for not playing hard.

And Green of course calls himself a team leader. (Remember back in the preseason when so much was made of Young following Green like a puppy dog, trying to learn how to be a pro?)

Here's another one. Smart, too, understandably is in the no-excuse-not-to-play-hard camp:

"It shows us that we need to get more serious about it," Smart said of his coach?s decision to script a physical practice on Tuesday. "Obviously, everybody on this team hates losing, but we're a young team and we're still trying to find those right matchups on the court. There's no reason we shouldn't be playing with effort every night."

http://www.nba.com/celtics/news/sidebar/shoot-010715-stevens-surprised-celtics-physical-practice
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Re: Wallace: Slow starts aren't Brad's fault, it's on the starters
« Reply #24 on: January 07, 2015, 02:21:59 PM »

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Next 3 games we will prob see a more inspired play from green. Danny has to trade him after.  We might just have to eat 2 2nds

Re: Wallace: Slow starts aren't Brad's fault, it's on the starters
« Reply #25 on: January 07, 2015, 02:36:55 PM »

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cripes. we still have over 5 weeks to go until the nba trade deadline. that probably means our current roster-purgatory is likely to remain as is until then. sigh. what to do for new thread topics?
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Re: Wallace: Slow starts aren't Brad's fault, it's on the starters
« Reply #26 on: January 07, 2015, 02:50:59 PM »

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I know everyone loves to hate Wallace around here, but he was 10x better in his prime than anybody on our team right now and he did it 100% through grit and hustle.  When he says this about our starters, I take notice.  I honestly hope he is in our front office in some capacity some day.  He was such a beast.

Re: Wallace: Slow starts aren't Brad's fault, it's on the starters
« Reply #27 on: January 07, 2015, 03:05:01 PM »

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I know everyone loves to hate Wallace around here, but he was 10x better in his prime than anybody on our team right now and he did it 100% through grit and hustle.  When he says this about our starters, I take notice.  I honestly hope he is in our front office in some capacity some day.  He was such a beast.
And how is this relevant to the fact that he can't play well enough to get off the pine right now?
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Re: Wallace: Slow starts aren't Brad's fault, it's on the starters
« Reply #28 on: January 07, 2015, 03:08:24 PM »

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Who could win with this level of talent at their disposal? I'll tell you who. Nobody.

Re: Wallace: Slow starts aren't Brad's fault, it's on the starters
« Reply #29 on: January 07, 2015, 03:28:42 PM »

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All righty then....whom is  our best player?
Which other team could this best player start for?

"Best player" is one he&* of a concept for this year's team, isn't it?

Jeff Green scores a lot, isn't aggressive, isn't a leader will never be either, let go of expecting it from him. He cannot "lift a team" and he isn't going to lift this one.

Bradley simply isn't a good enough player to carry this team.

Sullinger is the "first big off the bench" pretty much everywhere else right?
Zeller is a back up center.
Marcus Smart has started 5 or 6 NBA games?
"Evan Turner at the point" is one of the biggest Danny Ainge sak of sh&*% guaranteed losing experiments since Jordan Crawford who played so well he traded him.
Did I miss someone? The Dallas guys are such gold plated NBA starting material they had to throw in picks to get the deal done.

Phil Pressey our own Missouri Tiger is really one of the best point guard options for this squad. He has energy he passes, runs hard, attacks the basket, passes it to the right guy and gets it done. The issue with Pressey? I don't think he'd be in the NBA if ainge didn't have him here.

Blame Ainge, we have a sh&* sandwich and Danny is the cook.