Should the Boston Celtics retire #9 in to the rafters for Rajon Rondo?

[Celtics4ever]

PP is the only one I would retire out this crowd, no Ray, no KG and no RR.

[BballTim]

No.  His legacy is slightly better than Antoine walker and Antoine didn't get his number retired either.

  Antoine's Boston legacy:

  1st team all rookie
  3 time all-star
  was on teams that won 3 playoff series

   Rondo's Boston legacy (much borrowed from Chambers):

4× NBA All-Star (2010–2013)
2× NBA All-Defensive First Team (2010, 2011)
2× NBA All-Defensive Second Team (2009, 2012)
2× NBA assists leader (2012, 2013)
NBA steals leader (2010)
All-NBA Third Team (2012)
NBA All-Rookie Second Team (2007)
NBA champion (2008)
was on teams that won 11 playoff series

  Yeah, those are almost identical...

[Clench123]

No

[Jonny CC]

No.  His legacy is slightly better than Antoine walker and Antoine didn't get his number retired either.

  Antoine's Boston legacy:

  1st team all rookie
  3 time all-star
  was on teams that won 3 playoff series

   Rondo's Boston legacy (much borrowed from Chambers):

4× NBA All-Star (2010–2013)
2× NBA All-Defensive First Team (2010, 2011)
2× NBA All-Defensive Second Team (2009, 2012)
2× NBA assists leader (2012, 2013)
NBA steals leader (2010)
All-NBA Third Team (2012)
NBA All-Rookie Second Team (2007)
NBA champion (2008)
was on teams that won 11 playoff series

  Yeah, those are almost identical...

Walker was "the man" and the C's leader for a number of years...something that Rondo never was.  Your wiseass reply doesn't tell the whole story 

[Jonny CC]

No.  His legacy is slightly better than Antoine walker and Antoine didn't get his number retired either.

  Antoine's Boston legacy:

  1st team all rookie
  3 time all-star
  was on teams that won 3 playoff series

   Rondo's Boston legacy (much borrowed from Chambers):

4× NBA All-Star (2010–2013)
2× NBA All-Defensive First Team (2010, 2011)
2× NBA All-Defensive Second Team (2009, 2012)
2× NBA assists leader (2012, 2013)
NBA steals leader (2010)
All-NBA Third Team (2012)
NBA All-Rookie Second Team (2007)
NBA champion (2008)
was on teams that won 11 playoff series

  Yeah, those are almost identical...

Walker was "the man" and the C's leader for a number of years...something that Rondo never was.  Your wiseass reply doesn't tell the whole story

Walker's stats as a Celtic...
20.6 pts, 8.7 rebs, 4.1 assts, 1.5 stls, .6 blks
Not saying he deserves to have his number retired, just pointing out that Walker was the best player on the C's for a long time...something that can not be said about Rondo. 

[hpantazo]

I think rather than Antoine Walker, a better comparison for Rondo would be Dennis Johnson. DJ got his number retired and was the 4th-5th best player on that team, never was the man on the celtics. I think a fair argument can be made for Rondo. Sure, he didn't win 3 titles, but that team came pretty close to 2 titles and could have won 3 if not for KG and Perk's injuries.

[bostonsportsforlife]

This is the problem with the Celtics and retired numbers. People want to retire everyone's number who was ever a good player on our team. Rondo is not even close to being worthy of a retired number. And to be quite honest, a lot of the Celtics retired numbers need to be unretired.

[LarBrd33]

No.  His legacy is slightly better than Antoine walker and Antoine didn't get his number retired either.

  Antoine's Boston legacy:

  1st team all rookie
  3 time all-star
  was on teams that won 3 playoff series

   Rondo's Boston legacy (much borrowed from Chambers):

4× NBA All-Star (2010–2013)
2× NBA All-Defensive First Team (2010, 2011)
2× NBA All-Defensive Second Team (2009, 2012)
2× NBA assists leader (2012, 2013)
NBA steals leader (2010)
All-NBA Third Team (2012)
NBA All-Rookie Second Team (2007)
NBA champion (2008)
was on teams that won 11 playoff series

  Yeah, those are almost identical...

Walker was "the man" and the C's leader for a number of years...something that Rondo never was.  Your wiseass reply doesn't tell the whole story

Walker's stats as a Celtic...
20.6 pts, 8.7 rebs, 4.1 assts, 1.5 stls, .6 blks
Not saying he deserves to have his number retired, just pointing out that Walker was the best player on the C's for a long time...something that can not be said about Rondo.

Rondo mattered about as much to our 2008 championship as Antoine did for the 2006 champions.  I know the fact that Rondo was a part of a Celtic champion is a big deal, but if we're retiring his number based on him being a role player in 2008, we might as well also retire Perk and Posey's numbers.   

So you have Rondo's 4 all-star appearances as the 3rd/4th best player during his tenure here... vs Walker's 3 all-star appearances as the 1st/2nd best player here.  Walker played 552 regular season games here for the Celtics.  Rondo played 534.   Rondo was the beneficiary of being on some great playoff teams lead by KG/Pierce/Ray, but proved completely incapable of leading the team even into the playoffs as the top dog.  Whereas, Antoine actually lead the team to 4 playoff appearances including an appearance in the Eastern Conference Finals. 

I think Rondo certainly is ahead of Walker, but the gap isn't as large as some want to believe.   Neither should get their numbers retired, imo. 

[BballTim]

No.  His legacy is slightly better than Antoine walker and Antoine didn't get his number retired either.

  Antoine's Boston legacy:

  1st team all rookie
  3 time all-star
  was on teams that won 3 playoff series

   Rondo's Boston legacy (much borrowed from Chambers):

4× NBA All-Star (2010–2013)
2× NBA All-Defensive First Team (2010, 2011)
2× NBA All-Defensive Second Team (2009, 2012)
2× NBA assists leader (2012, 2013)
NBA steals leader (2010)
All-NBA Third Team (2012)
NBA All-Rookie Second Team (2007)
NBA champion (2008)
was on teams that won 11 playoff series

  Yeah, those are almost identical...

Walker was "the man" and the C's leader for a number of years...something that Rondo never was.  Your wiseass reply doesn't tell the whole story

  Rondo was the best player on the Celts for at least as long as Antione was.

[BigAlTheFuture]

No way. Only Pierce and KG should at this point

I'm not convinced that KG should have his number retired.  6 years as a Celtic with 1 Championship.  Based on the C's history with retiring numbers, I expect that they will retire KG's, but I wouldn't.

I would. He came here and the franchise did a complete 180. He really rejuvenated the team and whole city. The guy is a true Celtic despite his short tenure here.

Wyc also came out and said KG would get his number retired too if I remember correctly.

[LarBrd33]

No.  His legacy is slightly better than Antoine walker and Antoine didn't get his number retired either.

  Antoine's Boston legacy:

  1st team all rookie
  3 time all-star
  was on teams that won 3 playoff series

   Rondo's Boston legacy (much borrowed from Chambers):

4× NBA All-Star (2010–2013)
2× NBA All-Defensive First Team (2010, 2011)
2× NBA All-Defensive Second Team (2009, 2012)
2× NBA assists leader (2012, 2013)
NBA steals leader (2010)
All-NBA Third Team (2012)
NBA All-Rookie Second Team (2007)
NBA champion (2008)
was on teams that won 11 playoff series

  Yeah, those are almost identical...

Walker was "the man" and the C's leader for a number of years...something that Rondo never was.  Your wiseass reply doesn't tell the whole story

  Rondo was the best player on the Celts for at least as long as Antione was.

False.  Rondo was the best player on the Celtics for a total of 51 games (this year and last)... they won 15 of them.  Prior to last year, he was never the best player on the Celtics.  This was proven when Rondo helped the team to a below .500 record in 2012-13, went down with an injury, and Pierce and KG carried us into the playoffs without him.

[Jonny CC]

No.  His legacy is slightly better than Antoine walker and Antoine didn't get his number retired either.

  Antoine's Boston legacy:

  1st team all rookie
  3 time all-star
  was on teams that won 3 playoff series

   Rondo's Boston legacy (much borrowed from Chambers):

4× NBA All-Star (2010–2013)
2× NBA All-Defensive First Team (2010, 2011)
2× NBA All-Defensive Second Team (2009, 2012)
2× NBA assists leader (2012, 2013)
NBA steals leader (2010)
All-NBA Third Team (2012)
NBA All-Rookie Second Team (2007)
NBA champion (2008)
was on teams that won 11 playoff series

  Yeah, those are almost identical...

Walker was "the man" and the C's leader for a number of years...something that Rondo never was.  Your wiseass reply doesn't tell the whole story

  Rondo was the best player on the Celts for at least as long as Antione was.

No he wasn't.
You are saying that Rondo was better than Pierce??

[BballTim]

No.  His legacy is slightly better than Antoine walker and Antoine didn't get his number retired either.

  Antoine's Boston legacy:

  1st team all rookie
  3 time all-star
  was on teams that won 3 playoff series

   Rondo's Boston legacy (much borrowed from Chambers):

4× NBA All-Star (2010–2013)
2× NBA All-Defensive First Team (2010, 2011)
2× NBA All-Defensive Second Team (2009, 2012)
2× NBA assists leader (2012, 2013)
NBA steals leader (2010)
All-NBA Third Team (2012)
NBA All-Rookie Second Team (2007)
NBA champion (2008)
was on teams that won 11 playoff series

  Yeah, those are almost identical...

Walker was "the man" and the C's leader for a number of years...something that Rondo never was.  Your wiseass reply doesn't tell the whole story

  Rondo was the best player on the Celts for at least as long as Antione was.

False.  Rondo was the best player on the Celtics for a total of 51 games... they won 15 of them.  Prior to last year, he was never the best player on the Celtics.  This was proven when Rondo lead the team to a below .500 record, went down with an injury, and Pierce and KG carried us into the playoffs without him.

  Rondo was the best player on the Celts for quite a while. If you don't believe that, pull out your all-time favorite nba player evaluator (the efficiency stat) and see what it tells you.

[BballTim]

No.  His legacy is slightly better than Antoine walker and Antoine didn't get his number retired either.

  Antoine's Boston legacy:

  1st team all rookie
  3 time all-star
  was on teams that won 3 playoff series

   Rondo's Boston legacy (much borrowed from Chambers):

4× NBA All-Star (2010–2013)
2× NBA All-Defensive First Team (2010, 2011)
2× NBA All-Defensive Second Team (2009, 2012)
2× NBA assists leader (2012, 2013)
NBA steals leader (2010)
All-NBA Third Team (2012)
NBA All-Rookie Second Team (2007)
NBA champion (2008)
was on teams that won 11 playoff series

  Yeah, those are almost identical...

Walker was "the man" and the C's leader for a number of years...something that Rondo never was.  Your wiseass reply doesn't tell the whole story

  Rondo was the best player on the Celts for at least as long as Antione was.

No he wasn't.
You are saying that Rondo was better than Pierce??

  Yes I am, and I don't think that's really a minority opinion. Most people argue for KG, not PP. KG wasn't really better than Rondo, but due to the other bigs on the team was more valuable than Rondo.

[Jonny CC]

No.  His legacy is slightly better than Antoine walker and Antoine didn't get his number retired either.

  Antoine's Boston legacy:

  1st team all rookie
  3 time all-star
  was on teams that won 3 playoff series

   Rondo's Boston legacy (much borrowed from Chambers):

4× NBA All-Star (2010–2013)
2× NBA All-Defensive First Team (2010, 2011)
2× NBA All-Defensive Second Team (2009, 2012)
2× NBA assists leader (2012, 2013)
NBA steals leader (2010)
All-NBA Third Team (2012)
NBA All-Rookie Second Team (2007)
NBA champion (2008)
was on teams that won 11 playoff series

  Yeah, those are almost identical...

Walker was "the man" and the C's leader for a number of years...something that Rondo never was.  Your wiseass reply doesn't tell the whole story

  Rondo was the best player on the Celts for at least as long as Antione was.

No he wasn't.
You are saying that Rondo was better than Pierce??

  Yes I am, and I don't think that's really a minority opinion. Most people argue for KG, not PP. KG wasn't really better than Rondo, but due to the other bigs on the team was more valuable than Rondo.

Stop the madness.