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Re: Rajon Rondo shows Boston
« Reply #150 on: January 04, 2015, 12:14:51 AM »

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the question I have is ... how did Cuban know that Rondo was tanking it in Boston.

Why did he risk the chances of his team by taking a Rondo that by all accounts was not playing aggressively with Boston.

Did Rondo and Cuban collude, so Dallas would not have to pay a king's ransom for him? Okay that is far-fetched, but that was a brilliant move by Cuban to trade for Rondo after the lack luster post-injury showing.

Re: Rajon Rondo shows Boston
« Reply #151 on: January 04, 2015, 12:27:20 AM »

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the question I have is ... how did Cuban know that Rondo was tanking it in Boston.

Why did he risk the chances of his team by taking a Rondo that by all accounts was not playing aggressively with Boston.

Did Rondo and Cuban collude, so Dallas would not have to pay a king's ransom for him? Okay that is far-fetched, but that was a brilliant move by Cuban to trade for Rondo after the lack luster post-injury showing.

I don't think you "get" basketball very much.

Re: Rajon Rondo shows Boston
« Reply #152 on: January 04, 2015, 01:45:37 AM »

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the question I have is ... how did Cuban know that Rondo was tanking it in Boston.

Why did he risk the chances of his team by taking a Rondo that by all accounts was not playing aggressively with Boston.

Did Rondo and Cuban collude, so Dallas would not have to pay a king's ransom for him? Okay that is far-fetched, but that was a brilliant move by Cuban to trade for Rondo after the lack luster post-injury showing.

Because Cuban clearly didn't believe that Dallas was good enough to make it to the NBA finals with all the strong teams in the West.  Before the trade, Dallas was 0-5 against the top western teams and were being dominated by the opposing point guards.  Cuban is a risk taker and is focused on competing for championships.  Once Rondo agreed to seriously consider resigning with Dallas, giving up a single 1st rounder (probably late) and a few role players was worth the risk.   

Re: Rajon Rondo shows Boston
« Reply #153 on: January 04, 2015, 02:50:51 AM »

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the question I have is ... how did Cuban know that Rondo was tanking it in Boston.

Why did he risk the chances of his team by taking a Rondo that by all accounts was not playing aggressively with Boston.

Did Rondo and Cuban collude, so Dallas would not have to pay a king's ransom for him? Okay that is far-fetched, but that was a brilliant move by Cuban to trade for Rondo after the lack luster post-injury showing.

Cuban had a quote

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It's becoming clear that Rajon Rondo's got a little more pep in his step in Dallas than he had in Boston.

That's exactly what the Mavericks were hoping would happen.

When they traded for the four-time all-star, they took into consideration that the Celtics were below .500 and essentially looking to rebuild. It?s not easy for a team's best player - no matter how inherently motivated he is - to gear himself up night in and night out in that situation.

The Mavericks knew they were getting the Rondo from earlier in his career when he was with Paul Pierce and Ray Allen and Kevin Garnett.

A championship Rondo, one that is ready to get back to being one of the best all-around point guards in the league.

"If you've ever been in a company that's failing ... you know, the effort isn't the same," owner Mark Cuban said. "It's no different."

Re: Rajon Rondo shows Boston
« Reply #154 on: January 04, 2015, 03:12:51 AM »

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If Rondo were in the Celtics trainers room he would be showing you Marcus Smart icing his butt

I guess some guys do not understand sarcasm.   I thought it was funny, but I knew how to take it.

If I've missed the sarcasm is this then I'll have to hold my hand up and admit I've erred (a very rare occurrence on this board, I've noticed...).  However, look at all the posts he's made since the trade and tell me that there isn't a clear pattern evident.  If he's being cannily sarcastic in all of them, then it's the greatest comedic performance I've ever witnessed.

Re: Rajon Rondo shows Boston
« Reply #155 on: January 04, 2015, 03:16:35 AM »

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If Rondo were in the Celtics trainers room he would be showing you Marcus Smart icing his butt.

With all due respect...

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/puerile

Yep, that term can be used to describe the other side, too - the Rondo haters, dislikers, whatever.

Eja is trying to make light of this thing by adding humor...nothing wrong with that. He's posted that way for a while now and TBH it's quite entertaining.

We need some levity here, right? This is going to be a divisive thing for the blog for a long time.

Really?  Somehow, I don't think that he is like one of those Shakespearean characters added into the mix for comic effect.  I certainly don't believe he's up to the standard of the Greek Chorus in those lovely Greek tragedies that Sophocles and others included.  But hey, maybe he's operating on such a lofty mental level that I simply cannot perceive that his vantage point is so far above mine. 

Or maybe not.
Mercutio I'm not? You hath cut me to the quick. Tis not so deep as a well, nor so wide as a sea, but tis enough. Ask for me Marcus Smart's career tomorrow and you shall find him a grave man. Worms meat Rondo made of him. A curse on thine house. A curse.

This is brilliant ;D :)
I'm beginning to wonder if I should just post this way all the time now.

Rondo doth teach the torches to burn bright. Will thine heart ever love again? For never has a tragedy for the Celtics been so than to this our Ainge and his Rajon Rondo.

Yes, you should, please.  It's not annoying and infinitely more interesting.  I like your new approach and style - but maybe you're more akin to Ben Jonson than Billy Bob Shakespeare.  :)

By the way, eja, my apologies.  You bamboozled me - outstanding.  So, here I am, holding up my hand, waving it around, and admitting a mistake - this is how it's done, so please take note, Tim, as there is a first time for everything in life.  ;)
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Re: Rajon Rondo shows Boston
« Reply #156 on: January 04, 2015, 03:21:17 AM »

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2nd - a lot of people have a pretty short memory about how much 'heart' Rondo showed over his career with the C's.  Just check out the video tribute if you need a refresher.  It seems like literally thousands of fans at the game tonight didn't feel like they got kicked in the balls by Rondo.  I know I didn't.
I get it. "Heart" is something that you show only when you feel like it. Like when your team is good. Otherwise, it's ok to loaf around and pad some stats.

  Padding stats generally means a player that you don't like is putting up numbers that don't really fit your narrative.

Never heard this definition before.  Congrats on inventing something truly new and unique.

  Sigh. Sorry. For the people who need to have everything spelled out for them, I was talking about what it generally means when people claim a player's padding his stats, not what the term "padding stats" actually means.

If that is the case, then your explication was strangely inartful.  Please forgive me for requiring that you spell everything out for me.  I'm so fortunate that you are such a patient bloke.  By the way, did you ever come across a long-gone Celts diehard named Lance Jacobsen?  Just wondering...

Re: Rajon Rondo shows Boston
« Reply #157 on: January 04, 2015, 03:27:45 AM »

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the question I have is ... how did Cuban know that Rondo was tanking it in Boston.

Why did he risk the chances of his team by taking a Rondo that by all accounts was not playing aggressively with Boston.

Did Rondo and Cuban collude, so Dallas would not have to pay a king's ransom for him? Okay that is far-fetched, but that was a brilliant move by Cuban to trade for Rondo after the lack luster post-injury showing.

Or maybe Cuban just enjoyed giving us a kick while we are still down.  A conspiracy?  Really? 

Re: Rajon Rondo shows Boston
« Reply #158 on: January 04, 2015, 03:47:07 AM »

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the question I have is ... how did Cuban know that Rondo was tanking it in Boston.

Why did he risk the chances of his team by taking a Rondo that by all accounts was not playing aggressively with Boston.

Did Rondo and Cuban collude, so Dallas would not have to pay a king's ransom for him? Okay that is far-fetched, but that was a brilliant move by Cuban to trade for Rondo after the lack luster post-injury showing.

Cuban had a quote

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It's becoming clear that Rajon Rondo's got a little more pep in his step in Dallas than he had in Boston.

That's exactly what the Mavericks were hoping would happen.

When they traded for the four-time all-star, they took into consideration that the Celtics were below .500 and essentially looking to rebuild. It?s not easy for a team's best player - no matter how inherently motivated he is - to gear himself up night in and night out in that situation.

The Mavericks knew they were getting the Rondo from earlier in his career when he was with Paul Pierce and Ray Allen and Kevin Garnett.

A championship Rondo, one that is ready to get back to being one of the best all-around point guards in the league.

"If you've ever been in a company that's failing ... you know, the effort isn't the same," owner Mark Cuban said. "It's no different."

Excellent, I hope Mark's gamble pays off and this propels the Mavs to the championship if the Spurs cannot make it!!

Re: Rajon Rondo shows Boston
« Reply #159 on: January 05, 2015, 08:26:21 AM »

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Re: Rajon Rondo shows Boston
« Reply #160 on: January 05, 2015, 12:34:04 PM »

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'you really shouldn't have traded me'.
Is that what he showed us?  I thought he showed us that he needs superstars around him to be effective.  Either that or he showed us that he intentionally dogged it for two seasons.  Either that or he showed us the last 9 years of his career where he shot 25% from three were a lie... he could just instantly transform himself into a 38% three point shooter at any time, but was choosing not to do it, just cuz neener neener.    Either that or he was showing us that Ainge was right to move him... he's a bipolar spiteful player who becomes disengaged when things aren't going his way... it lends credence to the idea that he mailed in practices and was a poor leader. 

By "bipolar," are you suggesting he has a mental health issue? If you believe he does, does that alone warrant trading him?
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Re: Rajon Rondo shows Boston
« Reply #161 on: January 05, 2015, 02:50:56 PM »

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Rondo showed Boston that.... He basically dogged it the past 2 years and didn't put in his best effort. If he brought that intensity every night,  he'd still be here. But he didn't. He was coasting through the season waiting to leave.
Not exactly sure what your point is here. Rondo never brought it nightly during the regular season, even when the big 3 was here.

Re: Rajon Rondo shows Boston
« Reply #162 on: January 05, 2015, 03:06:18 PM »

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2nd - a lot of people have a pretty short memory about how much 'heart' Rondo showed over his career with the C's.  Just check out the video tribute if you need a refresher.  It seems like literally thousands of fans at the game tonight didn't feel like they got kicked in the balls by Rondo.  I know I didn't.
I get it. "Heart" is something that you show only when you feel like it. Like when your team is good. Otherwise, it's ok to loaf around and pad some stats.

  Padding stats generally means a player that you don't like is putting up numbers that don't really fit your narrative.
I just realized this was addressed to me. I will leave aside the phenomenon of passing layups to give people long jump shots. That's well-documented and topic of a different discussion.

The 'stat-padding' in this particular case consists of playing 10 feet off his man on defense to fish for rebounds he has no business getting. It is specific for this season, and I thought that was a new low even for Rondo.
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Re: Rajon Rondo shows Boston
« Reply #163 on: January 05, 2015, 04:35:24 PM »

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Rondo is shooting free throws at 40% in Dallas!
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Re: Rajon Rondo shows Boston
« Reply #164 on: January 05, 2015, 04:47:18 PM »

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I can't really blame Rondo if he has a new found love of the game. Couldn't have been very pleasing playing for the Celtics the past few years. But I'm a big Rondo supporter and will see him as a Mav when they play in the NJ area.

One thing I do know is I enjoy his game and enjoy him as a Fantasy Basketball Player also (points league) haha.