We should go after Quincy Miller or K.J McDaniels in FA

[Monkhouse]

Those two have a lot of potential. I see KJ as a quicker Gerald Wallace, with better athleticism.

Any thoughts?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ajKkDyT3QvQ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OVMhfcJpN9s

Last year for Clemson, McDaniels took home hardware as the ACC’s Defensive Player of the Year, while Wallace cracked the NBA’s All-Defensive First Team in 2010 and led the NBA in steals in 2006. If there is someone that McDaniels should be trying to model his game off of defensively, it should be Wallace from earlier in his career. Listed at 6-foot-7, 210 pounds when he entered the league, Wallace had a nearly identical frame to that of McDaniels, who sits at 6-foot-6, 205 pounds. More than just projectable athletically, there are also early signs of a comparison becoming real: McDaniels currently has a defensive rating of 105, whereas Wallace had a rating of 103 in his time with the Bobcats.

There are many athletes and many defenders whom McDaniels could resemble, deliberately or otherwise. There is more to a comparison than a favourable defensive projection. But while defense is where they are most similar currently, the duo have very similar offensive styles as well. Wallace’s strength throughout his career offensively was being a physical half-court player who used his frame and aggression, rather than handles or finesse, to attack the rim with authority. Wallace in his prime years played similarly to that of Avery Bradley, who finds open space along the baseline or underneath the basket and uses his vertical leap for easy buckets around the rim. From 2004 to 2011, Wallace shot 56.2% on shot attempts near the rim; McDaniels is shooting 56% on those same attempts this season. They both thrive in the transition and have solid offensive instincts when the ball is in the air, which leads to put-backs like this one from McDaniels from earlier this season.

Wallace’s limitation offensively, much like McDaniels has shown this season, is his ability to consistently shoot the basketball well. In his seven seasons with the Bobcats, Wallace shot just 32.2% from beyond the arc and 29.5% from 10-16 feet away from the basket. Similarly, McDaniels is shooting 30.1 percent from deep and just 11.1 percent from 10-16 feet away. Reasonably average as a spot-up shooter from three point range, Wallace always sorely lacked for a shot off the dribble and thus any form of consistent mid-range game, traits McDaniels seems to mirror. McDaniels clearly wants to be an outside shooter, averaging 3.3 three point attempts per game on the season, but is hitting at only a Wallace-esque 30.2% and has taken only 28 shots from between 5 feet from the rim and the three-point line, hitting ten of them.

It is clear that shooting is something that McDaniels will seriously need to work on to propel his game to the next level. But defensively, he is not far off from Wallace’s prime years with the Bobcats.

Ultimately, like Wallace, McDaniels should have a long career in the league barring a serious injury. When a player is being discussed as the first ever second-round pick to be named the NBA’s Rookie of the Year, that’s something. McDaniels will have to continue to hone his athleticism into production, but in terms of development, he is already a few steps ahead of where Wallace was at age 21, and his stock should continue to rise as he continues to grow as a player.

[slamtheking]

I thought KJ would have been a nice pick up if Danny could have drafted him with a later pick.  I like what I've seen when I've seen him play this year.  he's not a superstar but I think he'd be a solid 4th guard on a good team

[csfansince60s]

I'd go after both.

We're in a position now where we can take chances. If they both work out for relatively short $$$, that gives us more options in trading some of our other assets.

I especially would like McDaniels to stick it to the shameless Seventy Stinkers.

[Monkhouse]

I'd go after both.

We're in a position now where we can take chances. If they both work out for relatively short $$$, that gives us more options in trading some of our other assets.

I especially would like McDaniels to stick it to the shameless Seventy Stinkers.

Agree.

Both have great potential and relatively young, so why not?

[Who]

I wouldn't go after Quincy Miller. I like him as a 3rd string SF/PF but Celtics already have Gerald Wallace there. No need for another player at that position until G-Wallace's contract expires.

KJ McDaniels sounds like a good target. A midlevel or slightly above contract on a 2-3 year deal. Give him a shot and see if he can outgrow his deal.

[KGs Knee]

I wouldn't go after Quincy Miller. I like him as a 3rd string SF/PF but Celtics already have Gerald Wallace there. No need for another player at that position until G-Wallace's contract expires.

KJ McDaniels sounds like a good target. A midlevel or slightly above contract on a 2-3 year deal. Give him a shot and see if he can outgrow his deal.

I do wonder how much he is worth though?  I believe he is a restricted free agent, and his contract is limited by gilbert arenas rules.  How much will it actually cost to pry him from Philly?

[saltlover]

I've been advocating for KJ McDaniels since he signed his one-year deal.  It's a bit tricky, however, since he's a restricted free agent.  You have to pay him more than the 76ers want to match for, or work out a sign-and-trade.  Also, as we should have the 31st pick, paying him too much will affect our negotiations with that player as well, unless Ainge agreed to a contract with that draftee very quickly (before any offers to McDaniels).

[Beat LA]

While I've seen Quincy Miller posts from people like indeedproceed, I'm not familiar with his game.  All I know is that he had a bad knee injury that ruined his draft stock, iirc.  It was an acl, right?

As for KJ McDaniels, I really wanted him and James Young on draft night, and was hoping that Danny could have traded someone to get back into the first round, but it didn't happen. The guy is such a unique player on defense and is pretty decent on offense as well, but defensively, especially after we missed out on Embiid , was where I was primarily interested, as we have no shot blocking whatsoever right now, and he's great at coming from the weak side to swat that sh1t out of there, lol. Anyway, he's one of my favorites.  How many 6-6 guys ever average more than 1 bpg, let alone 1.6 in 25 minutes off the bench!? Hello, lol! I would have preferred to keep our legends and get him and Young, instead of what we have now, but I digress.  In fact, if you look at the 76ers' bench, their 3 main subs off the bench are guys that could have been easily had, and are guys that I wanted at the time, in Tony Wroten, McDaniels, and Henry Sims.  That's a pretty awesome second unit, imo, and we would have plenty of room for other guys, as well.  Sigh.  I'd rather have McDaniels over Butler, as well.  He's younger, about the same size, a much better athlete, is so unique with his shot blocking capabilities, and has a ton of room to grow.  He could be a monster on both ends by the time his career is over.  So, yeah - where do I sign, lol?

[Rick Robeys Return]

I've been advocating for KJ McDaniels since he signed his one-year deal.  It's a bit tricky, however, since he's a restricted free agent.  You have to pay him more than the 76ers want to match for, or work out a sign-and-trade.  Also, as we should have the 31st pick, paying him too much will affect our negotiations with that player as well, unless Ainge agreed to a contract with that draftee very quickly (before any offers to McDaniels).

I am also in favor of making a bid for McDaniels. With Bradley, Young, Turner, Wallace and hopefully Crowder, on the roster for 2015-16, I do wonder what the tipping point is on HOW MUCH of a bid.... Part of the equation if the relative weight of wanting him on this roster, and the desire to make Philly pay a price for holding onto him. But I would be shocked if there werent mulitple bidders for McDaniels which may change the math...  But its a good point about our own 31st pick, though I think the 31st pick will already be fully aware of McDaniel's gamble regardless of what we choose to do as far as bidding on him as an RFA....

[Beat LA]

Can we go get Roscoe Smith, too?

[Celtics4ever]

We'll at least we are aiming high and not to overpay guys, eh?   JK

[Who]

I wouldn't go after Quincy Miller. I like him as a 3rd string SF/PF but Celtics already have Gerald Wallace there. No need for another player at that position until G-Wallace's contract expires.

KJ McDaniels sounds like a good target. A midlevel or slightly above contract on a 2-3 year deal. Give him a shot and see if he can outgrow his deal.

I do wonder how much he is worth though?  I believe he is a restricted free agent, and his contract is limited by gilbert arenas rules.  How much will it actually cost to pry him from Philly?

Forgot KJ McDaniels would be restricted. Philly have loads of cap space and have to spend it on someone. Not ready for top stars yet so they'll likely pay a huge amount of money to hold onto him. Probably not a good target after all. Too bad.

Probably have to give him a contract like Houston gave Asik and Jeremy Lin just to have a chance at Philly not matching offer sheet.

[Chief Macho]

Mcdaniels would be amazing. 

[Evantime34]

I'd have interest in McDaniels, the Sixers would probably trade him for a future second round pick as a a sign and trade.

[slamtheking]

I'd have interest in McDaniels, the Sixers would probably trade him for a future second round pick as a a sign and trade.

I don't think they would.  he's not worth a full MLE so definitely affordable for the Sixers.  he seems like the kind of player they'll want to keep over the next few years if they actually hope to climb out of the league's sub-basement in terms of talent.