The Inevitable Rondo to Sacramento Trade Thread!

[jpotter33]

We all knew it was coming, so here it is! 

Actually two trades here:

#1: Simple Sacramento/Boston Swap

To Sac: Rondo
To Bos: Williams, Mcelmore, Sac Unprotected 2017 1st

Boring, yet simple. All of the drama with the coach may mean they're looking to make a shakeup immediately, and with all of the stuff I've read about their GM/Owners, they don't seem to be the sharpest tools in the shed. We'd get a good, sweet-shooting 2 to pair with Smart, an expiring contract, and a future first. I think they'd probably do this trade without much thought.

#2: The blow it up/huge megadeal/fireworks Sac/Bos/Det/Phi trade

http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=q4en8qy

Sac: Rondo, Smith
Bos: Williams, Mcelmore, Evans, 2017 Sac 1st, 2015 Det 1st
Det: Green, Collison, 2015 Clips 1st from Bos
Phi: Landry, 2015 2nd round pick from Philly (via Boston), 2016 Cleveland 2nd round pick (via Boston)


Now 4-team trades are generally thought of as too complicated, but this really isn't that complicated. Philly is only in the deal to make the money work and collect assets, so it's really a three team deal.

Why Sacramento does it: It's rumored that Malone was the big hindrance to getting Smith, so with him out of the way they might try to restart those deals. This trade would give them Rondo and Smith, and it would virtually ensure (one would think) that Rondo stays and resigns with his two buddies in Gay and Smith. This would give them a lineup of Rondo, Stauskas, Gay, Smith, and Cousins: a highly volatile lineup with TONS of potential (but also questions of fit).

Why Boston does it: Why not? This trade would clear up playing time for Smart and provide him with an ideal, sweet-shooting backcourt mate for the future. Mcelmore is no slouch on the defensive end either. It also would upgrade our 2015 Clips pick for a much higher first rounder in Detroit's 1st round pick. This would give us two (probable) higher lottery picks that would give us plenty of options in the draft. We'd also only be taking on future salary in Mcelmore, so that's also a plus.

Why Detroit does it: Detroit gets out of Smith's God-awful play/contract for a team (!) that actually wants him, and they get a real small forward to pair with their bigs. They'll lose their likely lottery pick, but they'll swap it for a late first rounder, a very good player in Green, and an upgrade at the point guard position.

Why Philly does it: They suck and are gathering assets, so why not? They're below the salary minimum anyways and don't plan on being good for the life of Landry's contract, so picking up some 2nd rounders for him is an easy way to collect more assets.

[gpap]

If Ainge does decide to trade Rondo, this is probably what he's going to be looking at

Something like Stauskas or McLemore plus Derrick Williams and maybe a pick for Rondo.

Unless Rondo's play dramatcially improves over the next couple months where his value increases, which at that point, the question would be: Why even trade him to being with?

[CFAN38]

If Ainge does decide to trade Rondo, this is probably what he's going to be looking at

Something like Stauskas or McLemore plus Derrick Williams and maybe a pick for Rondo.

Unless Rondo's play dramatcially improves over the next couple months where his value increases, which at that point, the question would be: Why even trade him to being with?

I agree

I would say the above Sac deal or a deal with the Rockets built around NO 1st are the types of deals DA will be looking at for Rondo. I think this has less to do with his current production and more to do with the fact that he is a FA.

[BitterJim]

I like that second trade, but you'd probably have to take that 2017 first out of it because I can't see them giving up McLemore, Collison, Williams, AND a first for Smith's awful Contract and Smith's expiring

Take out that first and it looks good, it's not like the pick will be that good anyway

[Yoki_IsTheName]

If Ainge does decide to trade Rondo, this is probably what he's going to be looking at

Something like Stauskas or McLemore plus Derrick Williams and maybe a pick for Rondo.

Unless Rondo's play dramatcially improves over the next couple months where his value increases, which at that point, the question would be: Why even trade him to being with?

If this is the trade that hes looking at then Danny should just hang up.

McLemore wont move the needle moving froward, and he'll hinder the development of James Young. Also, tjat 2017 pick would probably be in the late teens.

We're trading Rondo for assets? We have plenty of assets. Its time we move those and get Rondo a.much better supporting cast or use them WITH Rondo and get a franchise player.

[SHAQATTACK]

no trade

[slamtheking]

both are bad deals.

first adds an unproven SG that's admittedly is showing some life this year but it's still speculation he can turn into a starter.  Also, we lose our PG for yet another SG.  the pick will be non-lottery once Rondo gets there.

second trade is giving up Rondo, Green and 3 picks for basically Mclemore and 2 firsts which will worsen quickly as Rondo and Green improve the performance of their new teams.

[TheFlex]

Detroit gets way too much in the second deal. If Josh Smith was worth that much he'd be gone by now.

Nice ideas, though.

[Nerf DPOY]

Amongst all the speculation in the last 16 hours since Malone's firing and all the details of the owner's revolutionary stratagy he may wish to implement, it might be considered that they want to keep McLemore and Stauskas. I heard they have a dream of their offense raining threes all game, and it would make more sense to me to keep them both rather than deal for Rondo. On the other hand, maybe their ownership is so enamored by all of the triple doubles Rondo has racked up over his career that they're willing to overlook his shooting.....IDK, we'll see.

[GetLucky]

Give 3/4 of: AB, KO, Jeff Green, and Sully for Boogie Cousins an filler. Whole new, three point lineup for their (now useless) low-post scorer. TP if you agree!!! Feeling happy today.

[Boris Badenov]

Rondo's rare mix of rebounding and full-court passing skill is the ideal foundation for the Kings' 4-on-5 cherry-picking juggernaut.

It will become known as the "Rondo Connects 4" offensive scheme.

Bonus selling point: he can't miss free throws if he never crosses half court.

[Nerf DPOY]

TP to BB and GL for thinking outside the box, though both of your ideas aren't really more outlandish than the actual reports coming out of SacTown.

[furball]

I agree with GetLucky.  Your going the wrong way.  We need to get Boogie not get rid of Rondo.  They want run and gun position-less offense.  Boogie don't fit that.  He's a five and that's it.  (I am assuming meningitis goes away, does it?)

[TheFlex]

I agree with GetLucky.  Your going the wrong way.  We need to get Boogie not get rid of Rondo.  They want run and gun position-less offense.  Boogie don't fit that.  He's a five and that's it.  (I am assuming meningitis goes away, does it?)

To deal Boogie in order to implement run and gun would perhaps be one of the dumbest moves of the last decade, but I guess stranger things have happened.

[jpotter33]

Give 3/4 of: AB, KO, Jeff Green, and Sully for Boogie Cousins an filler. Whole new, three point lineup for their (now useless) low-post scorer. TP if you agree!!! Feeling happy today.

I mean, I would totally do that over the deals above, though it's highly unrealistic.