Poll: which one of these Rondo trades do you prefer?

[Tr1boy]

So I guess the hypothetical is that it is the trade deadline and these two trades are on the table. Not trading would always be an option but not the automatic assumption the we can sign Rondo at a fair contract.

I would rather trade with Sac as I have more faith in them being bad than the Phil and Carmelo led Knicks. I think if we could get that much for Rondo, it would be great. I prefer McLemore though and would be willing to do something with the picks to even out the value if necessary to get McLemore in the deal.

I think we missed the boat on Mclemore. 

This said, I think Stauskus will turn out to be a terrific player.  He will be much more consistent, stronger next season. You can tell he has alot of skills. For a SG his passing and handles are top notch.  His shots are not falling at a consistent rate right now, but he has a pure shooting stroke.   It's quick, has a textbook release. Like a taller Goran Dragic

I like Hardaway Jr. also.  Looks like a guy that can help the Celts close out games.  Excellent shooter, gets to the line, competitive and has a good feel for the game.  Different than Stauskus.  More like a taller and a bit more consistent Marcus Thornton

[GreenFaith1819]

The argument being made to neither trade Rondo nor let him walk is that we'll be further away from contention.

Rondo does not have much time left to prove he is worthy of us matching the near-max/max offers he will receive this summer from other teams like the Lakers.

How far away from contention will we be if we tie up cap space heading into two crucial summers by overpaying Rondo?

Rondo has stated several times that he wants to remain in BOS. I also believe that he would take less money if Ainge thought he could get some serious talent to BOS this summer - which I believe Ainge will.

Just my speculation, but I think that it would be more important to Rajon to WIN with HIM being the top dog and having a contending/competitive team around him. Just like Pierce was our anchor to contention, Rajon is in that same place, now.

The issue with trades like this is that some posters have such a dislike of Rajon Rondo that they would take just about ANYONE back rather than keeping him and building around him - that's the issue with my previous posts/comments in this thread.

Such a dislike only harbors bias.

We must have a SERIOUS outlook for the future if either of these trades went down. And trust me - most GMs that are eyeing Rondo will TRY to undersell us. Thankfully, we have Danny.

[GreenFaith1819]

Add a selection for C:

Neither.

OH ZING!!!  This guy is a real genius folks! He's here to bash your idea without discussing it. WHAT AN ADDITION! So just don't respond then.

Great, you said something negative about this guy's idea. How amazing. We are all better for it. Either discuss the idea, or don't say anything. If you really think it's a dumb idea, it's unclear why you're bumping it up the charts by responding.

Better yet, how about YOU come up with future scenarios for BOS for either of triboy's trades.

With the picks/players we'd be getting back, who would we build around?

How soon would we make the playoffs? Much less contend?

Who would want to sign here for with our expanded cap room in Summer of 2015 if either of these trades went down?

If you could give me a reasonable plan forward for this team if either of these trades went down, then perhaps YOU would be a genius.

what if Rondo does not resign? 

Rondo has brought in himself a total of zero big name big agents to the team.  You think this trend is going to change anytime soon?

Rajon has stated several times that he wants to stay in BOS.

And as for the bolded, I venture a guess that many of us were saying the same thing about Paul Pierce in 2006-07..........then....

[Yoki_IsTheName]

Add a selection for C:

Neither.

OH ZING!!!  This guy is a real genius folks! He's here to bash your idea without discussing it. WHAT AN ADDITION! So just don't respond then.

Great, you said something negative about this guy's idea. How amazing. We are all better for it. Either discuss the idea, or don't say anything. If you really think it's a dumb idea, it's unclear why you're bumping it up the charts by responding.

Better yet, how about YOU come up with future scenarios for BOS for either of triboy's trades.

With the picks/players we'd be getting back, who would we build around?

How soon would we make the playoffs? Much less contend?

Who would want to sign here for with our expanded cap room in Summer of 2015 if either of these trades went down?

If you could give me a reasonable plan forward for this team if either of these trades went down, then perhaps YOU would be a genius.

what if Rondo does not resign? 

Rondo has brought in himself a total of zero big name big agents to the team.  You think this trend is going to change anytime soon?

Then he's a $12 million expiring. At least we're not bringing in Stauskas and Williams, both WONT move the needle for us in any way shape or form as it comes to moving forward. With the way DeMarcus Cousins has been developing and that team being competitive, that pick in 2018 maybe in the mid teens, which would mean that it could be another squad rotation player.

I'd rather have the chance of Rondo resigning than losing him in a trade we dont need to do. We know that if Rondo is surrounded by good players, he can be a contributing piece to a winning team. Rather have that than have players who will do NOTHING for us moving forward and a pick that could be as close as useless.

And I never mentioned the Knicks trade because there's NO WAY they'd give Amare's big expiring and a pick for a possible Rondo rental and absorb one more year of Gerald Wallace.

[Jonny CC]

Add a selection for C:

Neither.

OH ZING!!!  This guy is a real genius folks! He's here to bash your idea without discussing it. WHAT AN ADDITION! So just don't respond then.

Great, you said something negative about this guy's idea. How amazing. We are all better for it. Either discuss the idea, or don't say anything. If you really think it's a dumb idea, it's unclear why you're bumping it up the charts by responding.

Someone suggested 2 trade offers.  Someone else basically said that they didn't like either idea.  No need to be a wiseass about it. 

[Monkhouse]

The argument being made to neither trade Rondo nor let him walk is that we'll be further away from contention.

Rondo does not have much time left to prove he is worthy of us matching the near-max/max offers he will receive this summer from other teams like the Lakers.

How far away from contention will we be if we tie up cap space heading into two crucial summers by overpaying Rondo?

Rondo has stated several times that he wants to remain in BOS. I also believe that he would take less money if Ainge thought he could get some serious talent to BOS this summer - which I believe Ainge will.

Just my speculation, but I think that it would be more important to Rajon to WIN with HIM being the top dog and having a contending/competitive team around him. Just like Pierce was our anchor to contention, Rajon is in that same place, now.

The issue with trades like this is that some posters have such a dislike of Rajon Rondo that they would take just about ANYONE back rather than keeping him and building around him - that's the issue with my previous posts/comments in this thread.

Such a dislike only harbors bias.

We must have a SERIOUS outlook for the future if either of these trades went down. And trust me - most GMs that are eyeing Rondo will TRY to undersell us. Thankfully, we have Danny.

TP.

I honestly have a feeling Jackson or someone else will cave, and blow it up. With a lottery pick and another treasure chest full more of picks Ainge will be there waiting.

[Tr1boy]

The argument being made to neither trade Rondo nor let him walk is that we'll be further away from contention.

Rondo does not have much time left to prove he is worthy of us matching the near-max/max offers he will receive this summer from other teams like the Lakers.

How far away from contention will we be if we tie up cap space heading into two crucial summers by overpaying Rondo?

Rondo has stated several times that he wants to remain in BOS. I also believe that he would take less money if Ainge thought he could get some serious talent to BOS this summer - which I believe Ainge will.

Just my speculation, but I think that it would be more important to Rajon to WIN with HIM being the top dog and having a contending/competitive team around him. Just like Pierce was our anchor to contention, Rajon is in that same place, now.

The issue with trades like this is that some posters have such a dislike of Rajon Rondo that they would take just about ANYONE back rather than keeping him and building around him - that's the issue with my previous posts/comments in this thread.

Such a dislike only harbors bias.

We must have a SERIOUS outlook for the future if either of these trades went down. And trust me - most GMs that are eyeing Rondo will TRY to undersell us. Thankfully, we have Danny.

This is absolutely false.  You can think that bc i dislike Rondo , i would like him to be traded. But the actual trade ideas are not give me "crap" for Rondo. You must be dreaming if Rondo can fetch someone like Drummond, Klay Thompson etc.

Danny did not let KG, PP walk. He traded them and got paid.  We totally robbed the nets.
Danny is not going to let Rondo have a chance to walk.  Look at what happened to Lester.  He walks and i mean its not the end of the world for the Celts, but it would be nicer to get some assets back.  Also trading Rondo is better for Rondo's legacy as a Celtic. Imagine if he signed with the Lakers?  alot of booes from the crowed.

[Yoki_IsTheName]

The argument being made to neither trade Rondo nor let him walk is that we'll be further away from contention.

Rondo does not have much time left to prove he is worthy of us matching the near-max/max offers he will receive this summer from other teams like the Lakers.

How far away from contention will we be if we tie up cap space heading into two crucial summers by overpaying Rondo?

Rondo has stated several times that he wants to remain in BOS. I also believe that he would take less money if Ainge thought he could get some serious talent to BOS this summer - which I believe Ainge will.

Just my speculation, but I think that it would be more important to Rajon to WIN with HIM being the top dog and having a contending/competitive team around him. Just like Pierce was our anchor to contention, Rajon is in that same place, now.

The issue with trades like this is that some posters have such a dislike of Rajon Rondo that they would take just about ANYONE back rather than keeping him and building around him - that's the issue with my previous posts/comments in this thread.

Such a dislike only harbors bias.

We must have a SERIOUS outlook for the future if either of these trades went down. And trust me - most GMs that are eyeing Rondo will TRY to undersell us. Thankfully, we have Danny.

This is absolutely false.  You can think that bc i dislike Rondo , i would like him to be traded. But the actual trade ideas are not give me "crap" for Rondo. You must be dreaming if Rondo can fetch someone like Drummond, Klay Thompson etc.

Danny did not let KG, PP walk. He traded them and got paid.  We totally robbed the nets.
Danny is not going to let Rondo have a chance to walk.  Look at what happened to Lester.  He walks and i mean its not the end of the world for the Celts, but it would be nicer to get some assets back.  Also trading Rondo is better for Rondo's legacy as a Celtic. Imagine if he signed with the Lakers?  alot of booes from the crowed.

Except it is. Rondo for Stauskas and Derrick Williams? Seriously?

(again, did not mention the Knicks, because they wont do that trade).

[Jonny CC]

The argument being made to neither trade Rondo nor let him walk is that we'll be further away from contention.

Rondo does not have much time left to prove he is worthy of us matching the near-max/max offers he will receive this summer from other teams like the Lakers.

How far away from contention will we be if we tie up cap space heading into two crucial summers by overpaying Rondo?

Rondo has stated several times that he wants to remain in BOS. I also believe that he would take less money if Ainge thought he could get some serious talent to BOS this summer - which I believe Ainge will.

Just my speculation, but I think that it would be more important to Rajon to WIN with HIM being the top dog and having a contending/competitive team around him. Just like Pierce was our anchor to contention, Rajon is in that same place, now.

The issue with trades like this is that some posters have such a dislike of Rajon Rondo that they would take just about ANYONE back rather than keeping him and building around him - that's the issue with my previous posts/comments in this thread.

Such a dislike only harbors bias.

We must have a SERIOUS outlook for the future if either of these trades went down. And trust me - most GMs that are eyeing Rondo will TRY to undersell us. Thankfully, we have Danny.

This is absolutely false.  You can think that bc i dislike Rondo , i would like him to be traded. But the actual trade ideas are not give me "crap" for Rondo. You must be dreaming if Rondo can fetch someone like Drummond, Klay Thompson etc.

Danny did not let KG, PP walk. He traded them and got paid.  We totally robbed the nets.
Danny is not going to let Rondo have a chance to walk.  Look at what happened to Lester.  He walks and i mean its not the end of the world for the Celts, but it would be nicer to get some assets back.  Also trading Rondo is better for Rondo's legacy as a Celtic. Imagine if he signed with the Lakers?  alot of booes from the crowed.

Except it is. Rondo for Stauskas and Derrick Williams? Seriously?

(again, did not mention the Knicks, because they wont do that trade).

Stauskas and Derrick Williams is a pretty bad return for Rondo.  We got a better return with Zeller and Thornton. 

[GreenFaith1819]

The argument being made to neither trade Rondo nor let him walk is that we'll be further away from contention.

Rondo does not have much time left to prove he is worthy of us matching the near-max/max offers he will receive this summer from other teams like the Lakers.

How far away from contention will we be if we tie up cap space heading into two crucial summers by overpaying Rondo?

Rondo has stated several times that he wants to remain in BOS. I also believe that he would take less money if Ainge thought he could get some serious talent to BOS this summer - which I believe Ainge will.

Just my speculation, but I think that it would be more important to Rajon to WIN with HIM being the top dog and having a contending/competitive team around him. Just like Pierce was our anchor to contention, Rajon is in that same place, now.

The issue with trades like this is that some posters have such a dislike of Rajon Rondo that they would take just about ANYONE back rather than keeping him and building around him - that's the issue with my previous posts/comments in this thread.

Such a dislike only harbors bias.

We must have a SERIOUS outlook for the future if either of these trades went down. And trust me - most GMs that are eyeing Rondo will TRY to undersell us. Thankfully, we have Danny.

This is absolutely false.  You can think that bc i dislike Rondo , i would like him to be traded. But the actual trade ideas are not give me "crap" for Rondo. You must be dreaming if Rondo can fetch someone like Drummond, Klay Thompson etc.

Danny did not let KG, PP walk. He traded them and got paid.  We totally robbed the nets.
Danny is not going to let Rondo have a chance to walk.  Look at what happened to Lester.  He walks and i mean its not the end of the world for the Celts, but it would be nicer to get some assets back.  Also trading Rondo is better for Rondo's legacy as a Celtic. Imagine if he signed with the Lakers?  alot of booes from the crowed.

But triboy, can you answer my post on the 1st page of thread?

With either of your trade proposals, what way forward do you see for BOS?

What Star Free Agents in Summer of 2015 will take a 2nd look at BOS with an aging Stoudemire, a talented (but unproven) Hardaway.

Last I checked, Derrick Williams is still coming off the bench in some SAC games. Who is Nick?

You have to look at the RESULT of your trades. Even with the picks coming back, we'd be looking at the cellar for the next 5-6 years.

Now, if we KEEP RONDO, we'd have a talented Floor General going forward.

Sully is only getting better. At only 22 years of age, I am actually starting to covet him more than KLove - a "little".

Jeff Green is averaging 20 pts per game so far - playing much better now that Rajon is running the team.

And Zeller is playing much better.

Even if, say, we keep Rondo/Sully/JG - that is a LOT better looking for a free agent than either of the trade proposals you mentioned - IMO.

[Yoki_IsTheName]

The argument being made to neither trade Rondo nor let him walk is that we'll be further away from contention.

Rondo does not have much time left to prove he is worthy of us matching the near-max/max offers he will receive this summer from other teams like the Lakers.

How far away from contention will we be if we tie up cap space heading into two crucial summers by overpaying Rondo?

Rondo has stated several times that he wants to remain in BOS. I also believe that he would take less money if Ainge thought he could get some serious talent to BOS this summer - which I believe Ainge will.

Just my speculation, but I think that it would be more important to Rajon to WIN with HIM being the top dog and having a contending/competitive team around him. Just like Pierce was our anchor to contention, Rajon is in that same place, now.

The issue with trades like this is that some posters have such a dislike of Rajon Rondo that they would take just about ANYONE back rather than keeping him and building around him - that's the issue with my previous posts/comments in this thread.

Such a dislike only harbors bias.

We must have a SERIOUS outlook for the future if either of these trades went down. And trust me - most GMs that are eyeing Rondo will TRY to undersell us. Thankfully, we have Danny.

This is absolutely false.  You can think that bc i dislike Rondo , i would like him to be traded. But the actual trade ideas are not give me "crap" for Rondo. You must be dreaming if Rondo can fetch someone like Drummond, Klay Thompson etc.

Danny did not let KG, PP walk. He traded them and got paid.  We totally robbed the nets.
Danny is not going to let Rondo have a chance to walk.  Look at what happened to Lester.  He walks and i mean its not the end of the world for the Celts, but it would be nicer to get some assets back.  Also trading Rondo is better for Rondo's legacy as a Celtic. Imagine if he signed with the Lakers?  alot of booes from the crowed.

Except it is. Rondo for Stauskas and Derrick Williams? Seriously?

(again, did not mention the Knicks, because they wont do that trade).

Stauskas and Derrick Williams is a pretty bad return for Rondo.  We got a better return with Zeller and Thornton.

The kicker is the 2017 1st. They might make an argument that "a 1st rounder is coming back".

But with Rondo, Gay and DMC, we'd be lucky if that pick lands at 16-17 range.

[Tr1boy]

The argument being made to neither trade Rondo nor let him walk is that we'll be further away from contention.

Rondo does not have much time left to prove he is worthy of us matching the near-max/max offers he will receive this summer from other teams like the Lakers.

How far away from contention will we be if we tie up cap space heading into two crucial summers by overpaying Rondo?

Rondo has stated several times that he wants to remain in BOS. I also believe that he would take less money if Ainge thought he could get some serious talent to BOS this summer - which I believe Ainge will.

Just my speculation, but I think that it would be more important to Rajon to WIN with HIM being the top dog and having a contending/competitive team around him. Just like Pierce was our anchor to contention, Rajon is in that same place, now.

The issue with trades like this is that some posters have such a dislike of Rajon Rondo that they would take just about ANYONE back rather than keeping him and building around him - that's the issue with my previous posts/comments in this thread.

Such a dislike only harbors bias.

We must have a SERIOUS outlook for the future if either of these trades went down. And trust me - most GMs that are eyeing Rondo will TRY to undersell us. Thankfully, we have Danny.

This is absolutely false.  You can think that bc i dislike Rondo , i would like him to be traded. But the actual trade ideas are not give me "crap" for Rondo. You must be dreaming if Rondo can fetch someone like Drummond, Klay Thompson etc.

Danny did not let KG, PP walk. He traded them and got paid.  We totally robbed the nets.
Danny is not going to let Rondo have a chance to walk.  Look at what happened to Lester.  He walks and i mean its not the end of the world for the Celts, but it would be nicer to get some assets back.  Also trading Rondo is better for Rondo's legacy as a Celtic. Imagine if he signed with the Lakers?  alot of booes from the crowed.

Except it is. Rondo for Stauskas and Derrick Williams? Seriously?

(again, did not mention the Knicks, because they wont do that trade).

remember last season?? Rondo for Mclemore and Williams? Seriously?

So what happened ?? How is Mclemore doing?

[Jonny CC]

The argument being made to neither trade Rondo nor let him walk is that we'll be further away from contention.

Rondo does not have much time left to prove he is worthy of us matching the near-max/max offers he will receive this summer from other teams like the Lakers.

How far away from contention will we be if we tie up cap space heading into two crucial summers by overpaying Rondo?

Rondo has stated several times that he wants to remain in BOS. I also believe that he would take less money if Ainge thought he could get some serious talent to BOS this summer - which I believe Ainge will.

Just my speculation, but I think that it would be more important to Rajon to WIN with HIM being the top dog and having a contending/competitive team around him. Just like Pierce was our anchor to contention, Rajon is in that same place, now.

The issue with trades like this is that some posters have such a dislike of Rajon Rondo that they would take just about ANYONE back rather than keeping him and building around him - that's the issue with my previous posts/comments in this thread.

Such a dislike only harbors bias.

We must have a SERIOUS outlook for the future if either of these trades went down. And trust me - most GMs that are eyeing Rondo will TRY to undersell us. Thankfully, we have Danny.

This is absolutely false.  You can think that bc i dislike Rondo , i would like him to be traded. But the actual trade ideas are not give me "crap" for Rondo. You must be dreaming if Rondo can fetch someone like Drummond, Klay Thompson etc.

Danny did not let KG, PP walk. He traded them and got paid.  We totally robbed the nets.
Danny is not going to let Rondo have a chance to walk.  Look at what happened to Lester.  He walks and i mean its not the end of the world for the Celts, but it would be nicer to get some assets back.  Also trading Rondo is better for Rondo's legacy as a Celtic. Imagine if he signed with the Lakers?  alot of booes from the crowed.

Except it is. Rondo for Stauskas and Derrick Williams? Seriously?

(again, did not mention the Knicks, because they wont do that trade).

remember last season?? Rondo for Mclemore and Williams? Seriously?

So what happened ?? How is Mclemore doing?

What's your point?  Are you saying that Stauskas is as good as (or will be as good as) McLemore?

[Yoki_IsTheName]

The argument being made to neither trade Rondo nor let him walk is that we'll be further away from contention.

Rondo does not have much time left to prove he is worthy of us matching the near-max/max offers he will receive this summer from other teams like the Lakers.

How far away from contention will we be if we tie up cap space heading into two crucial summers by overpaying Rondo?

Rondo has stated several times that he wants to remain in BOS. I also believe that he would take less money if Ainge thought he could get some serious talent to BOS this summer - which I believe Ainge will.

Just my speculation, but I think that it would be more important to Rajon to WIN with HIM being the top dog and having a contending/competitive team around him. Just like Pierce was our anchor to contention, Rajon is in that same place, now.

The issue with trades like this is that some posters have such a dislike of Rajon Rondo that they would take just about ANYONE back rather than keeping him and building around him - that's the issue with my previous posts/comments in this thread.

Such a dislike only harbors bias.

We must have a SERIOUS outlook for the future if either of these trades went down. And trust me - most GMs that are eyeing Rondo will TRY to undersell us. Thankfully, we have Danny.

This is absolutely false.  You can think that bc i dislike Rondo , i would like him to be traded. But the actual trade ideas are not give me "crap" for Rondo. You must be dreaming if Rondo can fetch someone like Drummond, Klay Thompson etc.

Danny did not let KG, PP walk. He traded them and got paid.  We totally robbed the nets.
Danny is not going to let Rondo have a chance to walk.  Look at what happened to Lester.  He walks and i mean its not the end of the world for the Celts, but it would be nicer to get some assets back.  Also trading Rondo is better for Rondo's legacy as a Celtic. Imagine if he signed with the Lakers?  alot of booes from the crowed.

Except it is. Rondo for Stauskas and Derrick Williams? Seriously?

(again, did not mention the Knicks, because they wont do that trade).

remember last season?? Rondo for Mclemore and Williams? Seriously?

So what happened ?? How is Mclemore doing?

Averaging 11 points for the season. But I'll give you efficient shooter. 

Come back to me when Ben McLemore can be an important piece in a winning team, because Rondo has shown that he can.

[Tr1boy]

The argument being made to neither trade Rondo nor let him walk is that we'll be further away from contention.

Rondo does not have much time left to prove he is worthy of us matching the near-max/max offers he will receive this summer from other teams like the Lakers.

How far away from contention will we be if we tie up cap space heading into two crucial summers by overpaying Rondo?

Rondo has stated several times that he wants to remain in BOS. I also believe that he would take less money if Ainge thought he could get some serious talent to BOS this summer - which I believe Ainge will.

Just my speculation, but I think that it would be more important to Rajon to WIN with HIM being the top dog and having a contending/competitive team around him. Just like Pierce was our anchor to contention, Rajon is in that same place, now.

The issue with trades like this is that some posters have such a dislike of Rajon Rondo that they would take just about ANYONE back rather than keeping him and building around him - that's the issue with my previous posts/comments in this thread.

Such a dislike only harbors bias.

We must have a SERIOUS outlook for the future if either of these trades went down. And trust me - most GMs that are eyeing Rondo will TRY to undersell us. Thankfully, we have Danny.

This is absolutely false.  You can think that bc i dislike Rondo , i would like him to be traded. But the actual trade ideas are not give me "crap" for Rondo. You must be dreaming if Rondo can fetch someone like Drummond, Klay Thompson etc.

Danny did not let KG, PP walk. He traded them and got paid.  We totally robbed the nets.
Danny is not going to let Rondo have a chance to walk.  Look at what happened to Lester.  He walks and i mean its not the end of the world for the Celts, but it would be nicer to get some assets back.  Also trading Rondo is better for Rondo's legacy as a Celtic. Imagine if he signed with the Lakers?  alot of booes from the crowed.

Except it is. Rondo for Stauskas and Derrick Williams? Seriously?

(again, did not mention the Knicks, because they wont do that trade).

Stauskas and Derrick Williams is a pretty bad return for Rondo.  We got a better return with Zeller and Thornton.

The kicker is the 2017 1st. They might make an argument that "a 1st rounder is coming back".

But with Rondo, Gay and DMC, we'd be lucky if that pick lands at 16-17 range.

This is if you think Gay and Rondo will resign with Sac.  Even if they do, i'm not sure how successful the Rondo, Gay, Cousins trio will do in the tough west.  Could be just scratching to make 8th place