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Lance stephenson could go back to indy?
« on: December 14, 2014, 06:01:28 PM »

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Charlotte, Indiana had preliminary conversations on possible return of Lance Stephenson, but talks haven't gone far, sources tell Yahoo.

The Nets and Clippers have also reportedly begun looking into Stephenson, but have yet to express serious interest.

So far, Charlotte has been unwilling to include a first-round draft pick in order to unload Stephenson,

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« Reply #1 on: December 14, 2014, 06:04:59 PM »

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Not even a year in Charlotte and he's getting shopped around? I'm glad the Celtics didn't get him.
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« Reply #2 on: December 14, 2014, 06:18:42 PM »

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including a 1st rounder to "unload" Lance.  Man...

The Hornets are the most fascinating team in the league to me right now.  They have so many prospects that I think are far better than they look there.  I'm really interested to see what happens if they start moving those guys or hire a competent coach.  I'm really convinced that MKG and BIyombo are significantly better than they currently appear... and Lance Stephenson going from averaging 14 points, 7 rebounds, 5 assists on 49%/35%/71% shooting... to this season averaging 10 points, 7 rebounds, 5 assits on 39%/17%/65% shooting... Suggests he's a player with all the talent to succeed with the right system/coach guiding him.  The Hornets clearly aren't that.   

If some team steals Stephenson and gets a 1st rounder out of it in the process... my god... that will just make that team look even more ridiculous.  I know Stephenson is a bit of a headcase, but he's a talent.  I'd absolutely buy low on him. 

It's a shame we can't trade Avery Bradley until Jan 15th.  I'd totally offer them Bradley for Stephenson.  Stephenson has legit SG size (6'5 230).  Playing with Rondo instead of KEmba Walker would be a big boost for him.  And I'd rather gamble on Lance for 2 years than be stuck with Bradley's mediocrity for 4 years.
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« Reply #3 on: December 14, 2014, 06:25:13 PM »

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Quote from: LarBrd33 on December 14, 2014, 06:18:42 PM
including a 1st rounder to "unload" Lance.  Man...

The Hornets are the most fascinating team in the league to me right now.  They have so many prospects that I think are far better than they look there.  I'm really interested to see what happens if they start moving those guys or hire a competent coach.  I'm really convinced that MKG and BIyombo are significantly better than they currently appear... and Lance Stephenson going from averaging 14 points, 7 rebounds, 5 assists on 49%/35%/71% shooting... to this season averaging 10 points, 7 rebounds, 5 assits on 39%/17%/65% shooting... Suggests he's a player with all the talent to succeed with the right system/coach guiding him.  The Hornets clearly aren't that.   

If some team steals Stephenson and gets a 1st rounder out of it in the process... my god... that will just make that team look even more ridiculous.  I know Stephenson is a bit of a headcase, but he's a talent.  I'd absolutely buy low on him. 

It's a shame we can't trade Avery Bradley until Jan 15th.  I'd totally offer them Bradley for Stephenson.  Stephenson has legit SG size (6'5 230).  Playing with Rondo instead of KEmba Walker would be a big boost for him.  And I'd rather gamble on Lance for 2 years than be stuck with Bradley's mediocrity for 4 years.

I'd much rather stick with Bradley thank you.
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« Reply #4 on: December 14, 2014, 06:28:08 PM »

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Lance Stephenson could be a great backcourt partner for Marcus Smart if Rondo leaves.

The size and physicality of that duo would be something special defensively. Two good ball-handlers to share playmaking duties on offense.
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« Reply #5 on: December 14, 2014, 06:48:19 PM »

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Quote from: LarBrd33 on December 14, 2014, 06:18:42 PM
including a 1st rounder to "unload" Lance.  Man...

The Hornets are the most fascinating team in the league to me right now.  They have so many prospects that I think are far better than they look there.  I'm really interested to see what happens if they start moving those guys or hire a competent coach.  I'm really convinced that MKG and BIyombo are significantly better than they currently appear... and Lance Stephenson going from averaging 14 points, 7 rebounds, 5 assists on 49%/35%/71% shooting... to this season averaging 10 points, 7 rebounds, 5 assits on 39%/17%/65% shooting... Suggests he's a player with all the talent to succeed with the right system/coach guiding him.  The Hornets clearly aren't that.   

If some team steals Stephenson and gets a 1st rounder out of it in the process... my god... that will just make that team look even more ridiculous.  I know Stephenson is a bit of a headcase, but he's a talent.  I'd absolutely buy low on him. 

It's a shame we can't trade Avery Bradley until Jan 15th.  I'd totally offer them Bradley for Stephenson.  Stephenson has legit SG size (6'5 230).  Playing with Rondo instead of KEmba Walker would be a big boost for him.  And I'd rather gamble on Lance for 2 years than be stuck with Bradley's mediocrity for 4 years.

I think you're underselling Bradley a bit. Over the course of his career it's hard to make the case that Stephenson has been the better player. Bradley is also making a million less.

I agree with you about MKG. He's a legit stud. Not sure he's the right for our team but if they choose to sell him some team will make out like a bandit.
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« Reply #6 on: December 14, 2014, 07:01:07 PM »

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I didn't realize teams were asking for a pick just to take Stephenson on.

You guys are absolutely right that the trail of discontent following Stephenson looks really bad, but I would be thrilled to send any combination of our expendables like Turner, Wallace, Faverani, and Thornton to Charlotte in order to give Stephenson a try.
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« Reply #7 on: December 14, 2014, 07:11:21 PM »

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He was the steal of the 2nd round in recent years, a steal on the FA market, and now available to be stolen in a trade. The Curious Case of Lance Stephenson.

Edit: And Parsons ( probably bigger 2nd round steal), I guess.
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« Reply #8 on: December 14, 2014, 07:16:00 PM »

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Quote from: Rondo9 on December 14, 2014, 06:25:13 PM
Quote from: LarBrd33 on December 14, 2014, 06:18:42 PM
including a 1st rounder to "unload" Lance.  Man...

The Hornets are the most fascinating team in the league to me right now.  They have so many prospects that I think are far better than they look there.  I'm really interested to see what happens if they start moving those guys or hire a competent coach.  I'm really convinced that MKG and BIyombo are significantly better than they currently appear... and Lance Stephenson going from averaging 14 points, 7 rebounds, 5 assists on 49%/35%/71% shooting... to this season averaging 10 points, 7 rebounds, 5 assits on 39%/17%/65% shooting... Suggests he's a player with all the talent to succeed with the right system/coach guiding him.  The Hornets clearly aren't that.   

If some team steals Stephenson and gets a 1st rounder out of it in the process... my god... that will just make that team look even more ridiculous.  I know Stephenson is a bit of a headcase, but he's a talent.  I'd absolutely buy low on him. 

It's a shame we can't trade Avery Bradley until Jan 15th.  I'd totally offer them Bradley for Stephenson.  Stephenson has legit SG size (6'5 230).  Playing with Rondo instead of KEmba Walker would be a big boost for him.  And I'd rather gamble on Lance for 2 years than be stuck with Bradley's mediocrity for 4 years.

I'd much rather stick with Bradley thank you.

remember how people were p---ed that we signed Bradley for that salary and not Lance
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« Reply #9 on: December 14, 2014, 08:36:57 PM »

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hornets: Copeland, CJ Miles
Pacers: Stephenson, 2nd round pick

Something like this.
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« Reply #10 on: December 14, 2014, 08:45:56 PM »

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Quote from: Who on December 14, 2014, 06:28:08 PM
Lance Stephenson could be a great backcourt partner for Marcus Smart if Rondo leaves.

The size and physicality of that duo would be something special defensively. Two good ball-handlers to share playmaking duties on offense.

I agree with the basketball aspect of this but I would worry about Stephenson's knucklehead factor on a team with a young coach and no true veteran leadership to keep him in line.  That being said, I would still trade AB for LS in a second. 
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« Reply #11 on: December 15, 2014, 12:04:53 AM »

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Quote from: Jonny CC on December 14, 2014, 08:45:56 PM
Quote from: Who on December 14, 2014, 06:28:08 PM
Lance Stephenson could be a great backcourt partner for Marcus Smart if Rondo leaves.

The size and physicality of that duo would be something special defensively. Two good ball-handlers to share playmaking duties on offense.

I agree with the basketball aspect of this but I would worry about Stephenson's knucklehead factor on a team with a young coach and no true veteran leadership to keep him in line.  That being said, I would still trade AB for LS in a second.



One trade that i think CHA could consider is a brandon bass package for lance. CHA would improve tremendously if they had a reliable PF on both ends of the floor. Brandon coming off of our bench is performing twice as good as their starter (Marvin Williams), and plays much better D than their Zeller.

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« Reply #12 on: December 15, 2014, 12:07:26 AM »

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I don't want Lance "Dikhead" Stephenson on our team.

ET and Rondo both don't like him
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« Reply #13 on: December 15, 2014, 02:14:09 AM »

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Quote from: TheFlex on December 14, 2014, 06:48:19 PM
Quote from: LarBrd33 on December 14, 2014, 06:18:42 PM
including a 1st rounder to "unload" Lance.  Man...

The Hornets are the most fascinating team in the league to me right now.  They have so many prospects that I think are far better than they look there.  I'm really interested to see what happens if they start moving those guys or hire a competent coach.  I'm really convinced that MKG and BIyombo are significantly better than they currently appear... and Lance Stephenson going from averaging 14 points, 7 rebounds, 5 assists on 49%/35%/71% shooting... to this season averaging 10 points, 7 rebounds, 5 assits on 39%/17%/65% shooting... Suggests he's a player with all the talent to succeed with the right system/coach guiding him.  The Hornets clearly aren't that.   

If some team steals Stephenson and gets a 1st rounder out of it in the process... my god... that will just make that team look even more ridiculous.  I know Stephenson is a bit of a headcase, but he's a talent.  I'd absolutely buy low on him. 

It's a shame we can't trade Avery Bradley until Jan 15th.  I'd totally offer them Bradley for Stephenson.  Stephenson has legit SG size (6'5 230).  Playing with Rondo instead of KEmba Walker would be a big boost for him.  And I'd rather gamble on Lance for 2 years than be stuck with Bradley's mediocrity for 4 years.

I think you're underselling Bradley a bit. Over the course of his career it's hard to make the case that Stephenson has been the better player. Bradley is also making a million less.

I agree with you about MKG. He's a legit stud. Not sure he's the right for our team but if they choose to sell him some team will make out like a bandit.
I disagree about Bradley.  Nice undersized back-up.  He shouldnt' be a starting SG in this league.   Hard to really make the case that Bradley's career has been better, honestly.  Stephenson has been better in nearly every way unless you're counting Bradley's overrated defense.
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Quote from: LarBrd33 on December 15, 2014, 02:14:09 AM
Quote from: TheFlex on December 14, 2014, 06:48:19 PM
Quote from: LarBrd33 on December 14, 2014, 06:18:42 PM
including a 1st rounder to "unload" Lance.  Man...

The Hornets are the most fascinating team in the league to me right now.  They have so many prospects that I think are far better than they look there.  I'm really interested to see what happens if they start moving those guys or hire a competent coach.  I'm really convinced that MKG and BIyombo are significantly better than they currently appear... and Lance Stephenson going from averaging 14 points, 7 rebounds, 5 assists on 49%/35%/71% shooting... to this season averaging 10 points, 7 rebounds, 5 assits on 39%/17%/65% shooting... Suggests he's a player with all the talent to succeed with the right system/coach guiding him.  The Hornets clearly aren't that.   

If some team steals Stephenson and gets a 1st rounder out of it in the process... my god... that will just make that team look even more ridiculous.  I know Stephenson is a bit of a headcase, but he's a talent.  I'd absolutely buy low on him. 

It's a shame we can't trade Avery Bradley until Jan 15th.  I'd totally offer them Bradley for Stephenson.  Stephenson has legit SG size (6'5 230).  Playing with Rondo instead of KEmba Walker would be a big boost for him.  And I'd rather gamble on Lance for 2 years than be stuck with Bradley's mediocrity for 4 years.

I think you're underselling Bradley a bit. Over the course of his career it's hard to make the case that Stephenson has been the better player. Bradley is also making a million less.

I agree with you about MKG. He's a legit stud. Not sure he's the right for our team but if they choose to sell him some team will make out like a bandit.
I disagree about Bradley.  Nice undersized back-up.  He shouldnt' be a starting SG in this league.   Hard to really make the case that Bradley's career has been better, honestly.  Stephenson has been better in nearly every way unless you're counting Bradley's overrated defense.

How quickly we forget Bradley's season-altering 2011-12 performance. Stephenson had an impressive season last year and an intriguing one the year before that. He's stunk it up this season and was more of a prospect than a player before last season. Overall Bradley has had a better career and is not any older than Lance is.
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