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not SMART rushing Smart
« on: December 13, 2014, 06:53:07 AM »

Offline rollie mass

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You go a whole season going trade green,trade rondo even before he is anywhere near healthy,then its tank or not tanking enough,sullinger is out of shape or fat,what is he doing shooting 3's,then who or where we draft,greens inconsistent,sign or don't sign bradley and to top it off a revolving door of players and d leaguer's.Now we are 20 games into season and drafted two very good young players,greens consistent,sully can hit threes,rondo is almost back,kelly's in sophomore year ,added zeller ,thorton,turner, powell and after all we have been through last year they rush back a young kid ,the jewell, that is just finding his way back from a severe sprain and now it's his achilles. It's much like writing and reading this post- IT WAS NOT VERY SMART

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« Reply #1 on: December 13, 2014, 07:04:43 AM »

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I'm just going to agree with this. However, no one expected him to have an Achilles situation based on his ankle. Now would be the time to give him 2 months off. When he's healthy, he can hit the gym and just practice shooting. When his Ankle/Heel is fully healed, no pun intended, then let him come back fresh and ready for the stretch run, whatever that may be.

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« Reply #2 on: December 13, 2014, 07:17:39 AM »

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 I have been posting about injuries,the attrition and rushing young players.Todays players are so much bigger,stronger and athletic.The defense being played is levels better than before during the season.These young kids are not used to the number of games, the consistent strength and athleticism and are used to being able to overpower college talent.there desire to win ,to gain a place in NBA will have them pushing themselves before there 19-20yr old bodies are ready and if they are physically mature,it takes time to find what you can and can't do to men in NBA compared to college boys.Gordon,smart,,randle,young ,vonleh all down was it really necessary to play smart 35 minutes coming back.Some will look at his game but if developes other longer term problems over compensating .I personally have had these injuries.i brought myself back too early ans suffered for it and it repeated with my son.

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« Reply #3 on: December 13, 2014, 08:09:07 AM »

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I believing the question to bring a player back from energy , at this time a year , on a non playoff team , not under the gun to win has mostly to do with the injured players feelings.

Smart was anxious to get back in and made himself available and the staff said ok.

Not the coaches fault here.  If the player makes himself available and the training staff or doc agrees ,,all the coach can do is his job ....play the player.

Smart didn't fully strengthen the ankle , get it back 100 % ,  his game is based on crazy foot  work , and incredible strength and he pushed the leg and other parts took more pressure .

He really needs to come back slower , build up the damaged areas now .

It maybe many weeks before we see him again on the court in an NBA game.

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« Reply #4 on: December 13, 2014, 08:58:31 AM »

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very true about players coming back early. Rookies and the likes of kobe and rondo and other veterans included. Bird,Mchale Pierce. were superstars and people paid to see them.Who knows that if they hadn't done certain things, if they would have prolonged their career .Also reading about wiggins and jabari and competing for rookie of year and his tough guy image- THERE ARE A
LOT OF TOUGH GUYS- I WANT SMART TOUGH GUYS--the coaches and trainers have seen these injuries for years and should know how players want to get back early-it is their job to restrain a 20yr old rookie-if certain players had lasted a little longer,The celtics course would have changed dramatically-C'est la vie
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« Reply #5 on: December 13, 2014, 09:40:53 AM »

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With our early schedule there was a ton of rest thrown in there.

Team plays tougher with him, certainly, but I agree let's not rush him.

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« Reply #6 on: December 13, 2014, 09:47:14 AM »

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I have been posting about injuries,the attrition and rushing young players.Todays players are so much bigger,stronger and athletic.The defense being played is levels better than before during the season.These young kids are not used to the number of games, the consistent strength and athleticism and are used to being able to overpower college talent.there desire to win ,to gain a place in NBA will have them pushing themselves before there 19-20yr old bodies are ready and if they are physically mature,it takes time to find what you can and can't do to men in NBA compared to college boys.Gordon,smart,,randle,young ,vonleh all down was it really necessary to play smart 35 minutes coming back.Some will look at his game but if developes other longer term problems over compensating .I personally have had these injuries.i brought myself back too early ans suffered for it and it repeated with my son.

Great observation..
Ive been saying this as well. Most of your College players come out to early. I don't know why, money? don't like school, think they are better than what they are? Bad advice? I believe its a combination of the above.
Perfect Player to look at coming out early was ADaniels UCONN forward. Great Tourney last year as a Jr. Declares and he is playing overseas hoping to make Toronto next season. Makes no sense, if he stayed at UCONN for his senior year continuing to develop his game, he might be a first rounder..

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« Reply #7 on: December 13, 2014, 02:22:57 PM »

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Looks like Smart needs some rehab.  It's a shame he hurt himself but that's part of the game.  You can blame the staff but if the player says that he is ok to go, only the player knows his own body best.

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« Reply #8 on: December 13, 2014, 02:48:03 PM »

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Well Brad either didn't play him or played him sparingly in several games because he said he didn't look like he was ready, so it can't be put on the coach.
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« Reply #9 on: December 13, 2014, 04:20:13 PM »

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i think i tried to explain what go this is a 20 year old fighting for his position and looking a jabari and wiggins and his team needing his defense -lots of pressure and he probably never had that severe a ankle injury-i felt pressure to get back -

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« Reply #10 on: December 16, 2014, 05:34:52 AM »

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now its jabari parker down severe pain with knee injury----this has got to be worse than rugby-

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« Reply #11 on: December 16, 2014, 06:38:51 AM »

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I'm not a doctor so I don't know whether it was the right decision or not. However, I'm starting to get a little worried Smart may be one of those guys who always has these nicks and bruises over the course of a long season. Hopefully that's not the case.

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« Reply #12 on: December 16, 2014, 07:59:15 AM »

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the way he plays defense you may be right but that ankle was serious and unavoidable but he claims to have been un taped for first time was the achilles an extension of that from coming back too soon.Did Marcus have a history of injuries in college?marcus played a lot of ball this summer,maybe he was just a statistic of pace ,strength,athleticism,These guys do push the boundries. So now its jabari,gordon smart,young,randle,vonleh-pretty much a who's who of the draft.Maybe its safer to be a slow plodding type that can't jump and doesn't play d---just shoot three's

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« Reply #13 on: December 16, 2014, 10:34:45 AM »

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Oooohhh, I see what you did there with the title of the thread.

Pretty clever.

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« Reply #14 on: December 16, 2014, 02:45:36 PM »

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So now its jabari,gordon smart,young,randle,vonleh-pretty much a who's who of the draft.Maybe its safer to be a slow plodding type that can't jump and doesn't play d---just shoot three's

Guess who's out until likely after the ASB?  ;D



On the Smart front, A Sherrod said it didn't look like he did too much at practice today.

https://twitter.com/SherrodbCSN/status/544938451838459904