Rondo needs to be traded Now

[Hawkeye199]

 The clock is ticking for ainge to trade him.  We have our future pg in smart. we obviously can't build together a great team with rondo in a year. I am worried we will lose him in free agency.  The best place to send Rondo is

Detroit. Rondo would resign their because josh smith and him are so close. they would get 3 stars in drummound rondo and josh smith.

Detroit gives up:monroe and 2015 1st round pick
Detroit gets Rondo

Bosotn gets:monroe and 2015 1st round pick
Boston gives up:Rondo




This is honestly the best trade I think ainge can get for rondo.

[TwinTower14]

it's too late for a Rondo trade, DA blew it.  Teams are not going to pay anything close to value for a PG that is playing at a below average level since his injury....

[Lucky17]

Problems for Detroit:
1. Do they really want to keep Smith?
2. What do they do with Jennings?
3. How confident are they that any "friendship" with Josh Smith guarantees Rondo resigns?
4. How wise is it to part with a lottery pick for a guy given questions #1, #2, and #3?

Problems for Boston:
1. How confident are they that they can retain Monroe as a UFA?
2. What position will Monroe play, and how does it relate to the rest of the roster?

[Gari]

It's not a wise decision to trade for Greg Monroe. Monroe, like Rondo, will be a free agent this offseason. Since he's playing on a qualifying offer, we won't get his bird rights by trading for him. The worst case scenario of the trade is not only we lose Rondo, Monroe also walks away to another team in the summer. It's a lot more sensible to wait for summer and sign him as a free agent.

If Rondo 'has' to be traded, the hypothetical return will be a young promising player, who will commit long term in Boston, plus a pick or two. Doubt any team would do that as Rondo can easily leave through FA.

[SHAQATTACK]

it's too late for a Rondo trade, DA blew it.  Teams are not going to pay anything close to value for a PG that is playing at a below average level since his injury....

Danny has ....never never blew it.

He is perfect

[TwinTower14]

it's too late for a Rondo trade, DA blew it.  Teams are not going to pay anything close to value for a PG that is playing at a below average level since his injury....

Danny has ....never never blew it.

He is perfect

When you say perfect, I am assuming you are talking about his trade mark defense and his deadly shooting?  I can't believe a professional basketball player shoots 30% from the line....that is incredible...

[86MaxwellSmart]

It's not a wise decision to trade for Greg Monroe. Monroe, like Rondo, will be a free agent this offseason. Since he's playing on a qualifying offer, we won't get his bird rights by trading for him. The worst case scenario of the trade is not only we lose Rondo, Monroe also walks away to another team in the summer. It's a lot more sensible to wait for summer and sign him as a free agent.

If Rondo 'has' to be traded, the hypothetical return will be a young promising player, who will commit long term in Boston, plus a pick or two. Doubt any team would do that as Rondo can easily leave through FA.

Jeff Green will make sure that his close friend Greg Monroe sticks around......oh wait Green can opt out this summer.

[obnoxiousmime]

it's too late for a Rondo trade, DA blew it.  Teams are not going to pay anything close to value for a PG that is playing at a below average level since his injury....

He didn't blow it. Because of the extension rules it's difficult to get fair value for stars who have a year or less remaining on their deals. Rondo got injured right when his value was highest which pretty much destroyed any chance for a lucrative return. That was just bad luck.

[D.o.s.]

Yes, that lone data point on the far left is how Rondo's season compares historically to those of fellow guards. In order to qualify for the NBA free-throw title, a player must make at least 125 free-throws (those numbers dip to 76 and 101 for the strike shortened 1998-99 and 2011-12 seasons, respectively). However, because I wanted to look at free-throw futility rather than free-throw success, I did the inverse of the "leaderboard" metric and changed free-throws made to free-throws attempted when deciding whom to include in this analysis (for the 2014-15 season, players were required to have attempted 25 free-throws).

If Rondo does not improve over the course of the Celtics remaining 66 games, he will break the NBA record for free-throw futility of 30.9 percent set by Olden Polynice in 1998-99. Right now Rondo is in dead last out of what is currently 9,323 individual qualifying seasons since 1946-47. The record for lowest free-throw percentage for a full qualifying season by a guard was set in 1953-54 by Al McGuire, who shot 43.6 percent. McGuire would go on to become the head men's basketball coach at Marquette where his 1977 team won the NCAA title. In that championship game, his team, ironically, shot an incredible 23 of 25 from the free-throw line.

The good news for Celtics fans is that Rondo will likely improve as the season progresses. Even though he has never been a great free-throw shooter for a guard (he shot between 55 percent and 70 percent in each of his first eight seasons in the NBA—see chart below), if he shoots his career average prior to this season (62.1 percent) on his roughly 100 remaining free-throw attempts, he will "improve" to 54.6 percent. This would still put him in the bottom 0.6 percent all-time for guards.

http://regressing.deadspin.com/rajon-rondos-free-throw-shooting-is-historically-awful-1667445245/+kylenw

[pokeKingCurtis]

it's too late for a Rondo trade, DA blew it.  Teams are not going to pay anything close to value for a PG that is playing at a below average level since his injury....

Danny has ....never never blew it.

He is perfect

When you say perfect, I am assuming you are talking about his trade mark defense and his deadly shooting?  I can't believe a professional basketball player shoots 30% from the line....that is incredible...

He's probably talking about Danny being perfect lol. And probably sarcastically too.

Its like defending rondo is offensive to some of you.

[D.o.s.]

Forgot to post the other image from that article:

[rondohondo]

Yes, that lone data point on the far left is how Rondo's season compares historically to those of fellow guards. In order to qualify for the NBA free-throw title, a player must make at least 125 free-throws (those numbers dip to 76 and 101 for the strike shortened 1998-99 and 2011-12 seasons, respectively). However, because I wanted to look at free-throw futility rather than free-throw success, I did the inverse of the "leaderboard" metric and changed free-throws made to free-throws attempted when deciding whom to include in this analysis (for the 2014-15 season, players were required to have attempted 25 free-throws).

If Rondo does not improve over the course of the Celtics remaining 66 games, he will break the NBA record for free-throw futility of 30.9 percent set by Olden Polynice in 1998-99. Right now Rondo is in dead last out of what is currently 9,323 individual qualifying seasons since 1946-47. The record for lowest free-throw percentage for a full qualifying season by a guard was set in 1953-54 by Al McGuire, who shot 43.6 percent. McGuire would go on to become the head men's basketball coach at Marquette where his 1977 team won the NCAA title. In that championship game, his team, ironically, shot an incredible 23 of 25 from the free-throw line.

The good news for Celtics fans is that Rondo will likely improve as the season progresses. Even though he has never been a great free-throw shooter for a guard (he shot between 55 percent and 70 percent in each of his first eight seasons in the NBA—see chart below), if he shoots his career average prior to this season (62.1 percent) on his roughly 100 remaining free-throw attempts, he will "improve" to 54.6 percent. This would still put him in the bottom 0.6 percent all-time for guards.

http://regressing.deadspin.com/rajon-rondos-free-throw-shooting-is-historically-awful-1667445245/+kylenw

For his career Rondo has taken 1412 FT'S and made 61% of them

This year he has taken 30 at 30%


Why is his whole career thrown out , and we take a sample size of 30 free throw to make the point that he is a horrible free throw shooter?
I am not saying Rondo is a good free throw shooter, he is obviously not , but he is not as bad as he has been so far this year either .

[Sketch5]

It's not a wise decision to trade for Greg Monroe. Monroe, like Rondo, will be a free agent this offseason. Since he's playing on a qualifying offer, we won't get his bird rights by trading for him. The worst case scenario of the trade is not only we lose Rondo, Monroe also walks away to another team in the summer. It's a lot more sensible to wait for summer and sign him as a free agent.

If Rondo 'has' to be traded, the hypothetical return will be a young promising player, who will commit long term in Boston, plus a pick or two. Doubt any team would do that as Rondo can easily leave through FA.

But what promising player are you going to get, that will also stay long term if not Monroe? There aren't many options out there, and trading for picks are getting harder and harder to do. I mean we could trade with the Lakers and get nothing. Or we could make a move for Monroe, and keep Green on to sway him into signing. Getting the players to come is the hardest part, getting them to want to stay seems to be easy. I mean Humps wanted to stay on a rebuilding team after not being to happy about the trade at first.

Yeah Monroe could walk, but so could Rondo and we would still end up with nothing, but at least DA would be rolling the dice and trying to do something to get this team moving forward. And Rondo could walk from Detroit, but so can Monroe, so both teams are in the same boat. But both teams have players they are friends with that could get them to stay.

In a league that is PG heavy, and most teams have a good to above average PG on their team, it makes it hard to move Rondo, and you wont get complete value for him because of that, and we would have to over pay to get some one like Monroe.

[SHAQATTACK]

I just don't think DA sees trading Rondo away as a must do thing or rush on his to do list.

I think he is fine waiting out the team s contracts to sort themselves out .....Wallace , Bass , Green , Rondo.....

I think 2017 is THE YEAR.

[rondohondo]

It's not a wise decision to trade for Greg Monroe. Monroe, like Rondo, will be a free agent this offseason. Since he's playing on a qualifying offer, we won't get his bird rights by trading for him. The worst case scenario of the trade is not only we lose Rondo, Monroe also walks away to another team in the summer. It's a lot more sensible to wait for summer and sign him as a free agent.

If Rondo 'has' to be traded, the hypothetical return will be a young promising player, who will commit long term in Boston, plus a pick or two. Doubt any team would do that as Rondo can easily leave through FA.

But what promising player are you going to get, that will also stay long term if not Monroe? There aren't many options out there, and trading for picks are getting harder and harder to do. I mean we could trade with the Lakers and get nothing. Or we could make a move for Monroe, and keep Green on to sway him into signing. Getting the players to come is the hardest part, getting them to want to stay seems to be easy. I mean Humps wanted to stay on a rebuilding team after not being to happy about the trade at first.

Yeah Monroe could walk, but so could Rondo and we would still end up with nothing, but at least DA would be rolling the dice and trying to do something to get this team moving forward. And Rondo could walk from Detroit, but so can Monroe, so both teams are in the same boat. But both teams have players they are friends with that could get them to stay.

In a league that is PG heavy, and most teams have a good to above average PG on their team, it makes it hard to move Rondo, and you wont get complete value for him because of that, and we would have to over pay to get some one like Monroe.

We can just move Wallace , Turner and Bradley with low first rd picks , and have the room to re-sign Rondo,re-sign Green, and then sign a max contract .

If Rondo wants to leave, we have his Bird rights to do a s+t.

Wouldn't it be more attractive for Monroe or any other max contract to sign with the c's if Rondo is here? I think so . Otherwise we would be trying to sign a max player to a core of Smart(unproven), Sully,KO. Green likely leaves if Rondo is gone.

Plus we don't have the bird rights to sign Monroe if we trade for him, making him an UFA.  He then can chose wherever he wants to go , c's lose Rondo and likely Green and are left in full rebuild mode for the next 5 years.

Doesn't make much sense to me