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Can we get James Young some minutes?
« on: December 05, 2014, 11:39:04 AM »

Offline MikeJelly

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It's time to get James Young some minutes. The kid is putting up fantastic numbers in the D league. He is the shooter we need. Plus honestly this isn't going to be the best year so why not get him some experience. At his size, I would love to see him take over AB's spot soon enough. His D will come along, he just needs the run time. I see a very bright future with this kid.

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7 threes last night for James

PS I have nothing against AB but I just see a higher ceiling with James. AB can come off the bench or we can trade him.

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Re: Can we get James Young some minutes?
« Reply #1 on: December 05, 2014, 11:54:27 AM »

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One hopes that that bringing James Young back from the D League right now would look a lot like how Avery Bradley looked when he  came back from the D League.

A good Forseberg article on that from earlier this month:
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Bradley, the 19th overall pick in the 2010 draft, struggled mightily in the early stages of his pro career. A chipped bone suffered in a pre-draft workout with the Oklahoma City Thunder contributed to his draft-day slide to the Celtics, and his recovery lingered into the start of the season, setting back the 19-year-old. His game reps were limited, and he struggled with his shot when trash-time opportunities did come. By mid-January 2011, the Celtics assigned Bradley to Maine in order to get him much-needed game reps and to restore his sagging confidence.

It's impossible to know how long Bradley might have lingered in Maine if not for a freak spine injury to teammate Marquis Daniels that led to Bradley's recall in early February with the team thin on bodies as it trekked to Charlotte.

"It's sad that it happened, but I came up when Marquis had his injury. It's crazy how everything happens," Bradley said. "I came up, got my opportunity, and from then on -- that practice is when I gained my teammates' confidence. Not only their confidence, but their respect. Because at first I think they thought, 'He can't really play.' I was hurt, I didn't practice. It was like, 'He's not ready.' Then when I came back, they were like, 'He might actually have a chance.'"
http://espn.go.com/boston/nba/story/_/id/11722656/boston-celtics-guard-avery-bradley-rise-began-d-league-maine-red-claws

That is, largely, how I see James Young's return to the league proper playing out. He'll come back if they need him.
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Re: Can we get James Young some minutes?
« Reply #2 on: December 05, 2014, 12:03:04 PM »

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Not that I would ever wish an injury on any players (Celtic or otherwise) but thats a valid point. I would love to see James get like 10 mins at least.

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« Reply #3 on: December 05, 2014, 12:05:25 PM »

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He's pretty 1 dimensional at this point, but what do we have to lose?  The kid can definitely knock down 3's.  Ultra fast release and smooth stroke. 

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« Reply #4 on: December 05, 2014, 12:16:40 PM »

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Not that I would ever wish an injury on any players (Celtic or otherwise) but thats a valid point. I would love to see James get like 10 mins at least.
i understand how we all want better players on the celtics right now. however, young's defense is so poor that his presence for 10 minutes a game will not make the celtics a better team. plus, wins and loses are not the goal this season.

by bringing him up for only 10 minutes a night, the celtics might very well DELAY his development since he is now getting a lot more minutes in the Dleague. it is those extra minutes that will allow him to develop all parts of his game more quickly.

so, i don't agree that bringing up young would help anyone....except folks who like to post on cb.  ;D
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Re: Can we get James Young some minutes?
« Reply #5 on: December 05, 2014, 12:21:50 PM »

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I think they will end up either trading Thorton or just giving his minutes to Young.

I also think if Green is dealt you see him get some time at the 3.
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Re: Can we get James Young some minutes?
« Reply #6 on: December 05, 2014, 12:37:52 PM »

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Great stroke.

I'd like to see how he shoots coming off screens. With that stroke he's not going to get left alone by NBA defenses.

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« Reply #7 on: December 05, 2014, 12:39:21 PM »

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I don't care how well he is shooting.  I think his NBA minutes should be based on how well he is learning to play defense.  Not sure how true it is, but Young was described as lacking in basic defensive fundamentals in scouting reports.  It's not a good thing when I have seen his defense compared multiple times to James Harden.
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« Reply #8 on: December 05, 2014, 12:43:14 PM »

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I don't care how well he is shooting.  I think his NBA minutes should be based on how well he is learning to play defense.  Not sure how true it is, but Young was described as lacking in basic defensive fundamentals in scouting reports.  It's not a good thing when I have seen his defense compared multiple times to James Harden.

Thats funny cause his offense reminds me of Harden too, well at least his form on his shot and being left handed.

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« Reply #9 on: December 05, 2014, 01:05:30 PM »

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I don't care how well he is shooting.  I think his NBA minutes should be based on how well he is learning to play defense.  Not sure how true it is, but Young was described as lacking in basic defensive fundamentals in scouting reports.  It's not a good thing when I have seen his defense compared multiple times to James Harden.

Agreed, with guys like this I'd be more interested in "defensive lowlights" videos than "shooting highlights" videos.

Not sure why there aren't more of those. Lowlights are one of the things that make DX player previews so terrific.

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« Reply #10 on: December 05, 2014, 01:17:54 PM »

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I don't care how well he is shooting.  I think his NBA minutes should be based on how well he is learning to play defense.  Not sure how true it is, but Young was described as lacking in basic defensive fundamentals in scouting reports.  It's not a good thing when I have seen his defense compared multiple times to James Harden.

Agreed, with guys like this I'd be more interested in "defensive lowlights" videos than "shooting highlights" videos.

Not sure why there aren't more of those. Lowlights are one of the things that make DX player previews so terrific.
I would argue that he's not an average offensive player for a rookie. The guy can play and might be our best shooter. Why hold this guy back any longer?

Also, look at the two players he's competing against. Jeff Green may be the worst close out defender in the league. And Turner is pretty slow side to side on D.

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« Reply #11 on: December 05, 2014, 01:21:16 PM »

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He's pretty 1 dimensional at this point, but what do we have to lose?  The kid can definitely knock down 3's.  Ultra fast release and smooth stroke.
I saw some nice plays he made with the ball in his hands. He definitely has a feel for the game and is not one dimensional.

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« Reply #12 on: December 05, 2014, 01:25:35 PM »

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Not that I would ever wish an injury on any players (Celtic or otherwise) but thats a valid point. I would love to see James get like 10 mins at least.
i understand how we all want better players on the celtics right now. however, young's defense is so poor that his presence for 10 minutes a game will not make the celtics a better team. plus, wins and loses are not the goal this season.

by bringing him up for only 10 minutes a night, the celtics might very well DELAY his development since he is now getting a lot more minutes in the Dleague. it is those extra minutes that will allow him to develop all parts of his game more quickly.

so, i don't agree that bringing up young would help anyone....except folks who like to post on cb.  ;D
I think 8-10 minutes against quality competition is a lot better then 30 plus minutes in the D league.

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« Reply #13 on: December 05, 2014, 01:29:58 PM »

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Not that I would ever wish an injury on any players (Celtic or otherwise) but thats a valid point. I would love to see James get like 10 mins at least.
i understand how we all want better players on the celtics right now. however, young's defense is so poor that his presence for 10 minutes a game will not make the celtics a better team. plus, wins and loses are not the goal this season.

by bringing him up for only 10 minutes a night, the celtics might very well DELAY his development since he is now getting a lot more minutes in the Dleague. it is those extra minutes that will allow him to develop all parts of his game more quickly.

so, i don't agree that bringing up young would help anyone....except folks who like to post on cb.  ;D
I think 8-10 minutes against quality competition is a lot better then 30 plus minutes in the D league.

pretty much agree, Fab Melo dominated in the D-League too.

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« Reply #14 on: December 05, 2014, 01:36:04 PM »

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Not that I would ever wish an injury on any players (Celtic or otherwise) but thats a valid point. I would love to see James get like 10 mins at least.
i understand how we all want better players on the celtics right now. however, young's defense is so poor that his presence for 10 minutes a game will not make the celtics a better team. plus, wins and loses are not the goal this season.

by bringing him up for only 10 minutes a night, the celtics might very well DELAY his development since he is now getting a lot more minutes in the Dleague. it is those extra minutes that will allow him to develop all parts of his game more quickly.

so, i don't agree that bringing up young would help anyone....except folks who like to post on cb.  ;D
I think 8-10 minutes against quality competition is a lot better then 30 plus minutes in the D league.

pretty much agree, Fab Melo dominated in the D-League too.

Fab Melo couldn't shoot threes.

Young has one of the sweetest shots I have ever seen.