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Jeff Green???
« on: December 02, 2014, 11:05:57 PM »

Offline Devrae

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Should we keep Jeff Green? Although his proven to be very inconsistent he has done a better job of that this year so far. There are not a lot of stretch forwards that can do what he is able to do. shoot, rebound, and play defense well. I don't agree on resigning him for more or even as much as hes getting right now but I do think his some one we will need. If you would trade him who is an acceptable replacement for his position?

Re: Jeff Green???
« Reply #1 on: December 03, 2014, 06:18:05 AM »

Offline soulman

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we should keep Green, he is by far our best player...

Re: Jeff Green???
« Reply #2 on: December 03, 2014, 06:34:58 AM »

Offline jonaslopes

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He deserves 12 mi, I think. Don't see a lot of SFs wanting to come. Rudy Gay, Chandler Parsons and Gordon Hayward just signed new contracts. James, Durant, Melo, George and Kawhi are not realistic options. We should keep Green.
It's nice seeing him get exposed as overrated after having argued with fellow fans for years that he was overrated.. but I don't hate him. I'm looking forward to seeing him [...] bounce around to a couple more teams... eventually come back to Boston[...] and helps us as a role player until he runs himself out of the league.
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Re: Jeff Green???
« Reply #3 on: December 03, 2014, 06:43:04 AM »

Offline BleedGreen1989

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If Ainge keeps Rondo he should keep Green.
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Re: Jeff Green???
« Reply #4 on: December 03, 2014, 09:30:40 AM »

Offline manl_lui

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I have to say I am impressed with Green so far this season. Since trading for him, I had lots of complaints. He could not post to save his life, not a great rebounder and mediocre defense. 2 years ago, playing alongside KG and PP, we were ready to label him as one of our future and carrying the torch, played very well the last half of the season. Last season he showed hope but very inconsistent at times when we needed him and we the fans wanted to trade him. This season, he showed up to play every game, posted well, defense slightly above average. He is improving all of the things I was criticizing him for.

If we do keep Rondo and Green (I'm in the don't trade them camp), we need to get those two help and ASAP. We need a real center (Zeller is doing fine since starting, so I think he should get increased minutes like 30ish mpg, and down Kelly's minutes, good offensive player but he isn't stopping anyone).

Re: Jeff Green???
« Reply #5 on: December 03, 2014, 10:21:43 AM »

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I can admit when I've been wrong, and I was wrong about JG's contract. He's finally stepped up his production to match his pay. I'd keep him at 12 per year.

Re: Jeff Green???
« Reply #6 on: December 03, 2014, 10:39:11 AM »

Offline pearljammer10

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If Ainge keeps Rondo he should keep Green.

Absolutely. Green is a great second option if he continues to plays the way he has this year and he is also strong and athletic enough to play well above average defense. Rondo is one of the games best facilitators if he has those scoring options around him. If we can use our assets to net a number one option then keeping Green, to me, is a no brainer.

However, that number one option (obviously) will not be easy to find.

Re: Jeff Green???
« Reply #7 on: December 03, 2014, 11:05:53 AM »

Offline BitterJim

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Should we keep Jeff Green? Although his proven to be very inconsistent he has done a better job of that this year so far. There are not a lot of stretch forwards that can do what he is able to do. shoot, rebound, and play defense well. I don't agree on resigning him for more or even as much as hes getting right now but I do think his some one we will need. If you would trade him who is an acceptable replacement for his position?

Well, then, given the market for SFs (and players in general right now), you don't want to resign him. He'll get (and deserves) more than he's making right now, especially with the cap about to increase

12 million per sounds about right
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Re: Jeff Green???
« Reply #8 on: December 03, 2014, 11:11:04 AM »

Offline D.o.s.

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If Ainge keeps Rondo he should keep Green.

Agreed.
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Re: Jeff Green???
« Reply #9 on: December 03, 2014, 12:12:56 PM »

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If we are keeping Rondo and Jeff ,

Wallace, Vitor and Turner have to be moved by the draft to clear cap space .  That likely means giving up at least a few draft picks ( maybe clippers and cle)

Say we then give Rondo 15 and Jeff 12 .

Cut pressey and Powell

Cap holds and likely top 10 pick would put us close to 55 mil . That only gives us about 8-10 mil in salary cap .  So that means Bradley would have to be move to clear more cap space to even have a chance to sign a max  free agent .

leaves us with

PG: Rondo       / 
SG: Smart       / Young
SF: Green       / top 10 pick
PF: Sully        / KO
 C: Max         / Zellar

So in conclusion , we have to move Wallace, Bradley , Turner , Vitor  and clips pick while taking no long term salary back to have a shot of re-signing Rondo and Green and having the ability to offer a max to (Gasol, Hibbert, Aldridge,Lopez, Big Al Khawhi, )


Re: Jeff Green???
« Reply #10 on: December 03, 2014, 12:23:51 PM »

Offline manl_lui

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If we are keeping Rondo and Jeff ,

Wallace, Vitor and Turner have to be moved by the draft to clear cap space .  That likely means giving up at least a few draft picks ( maybe clippers and cle)

Say we then give Rondo 15 and Jeff 12 .

Cut pressey and Powell

Cap holds and likely top 10 pick would put us close to 55 mil . That only gives us about 8-10 mil in salary cap .  So that means Bradley would have to be move to clear more cap space to even have a chance to sign a max  free agent .

leaves us with

PG: Rondo       / 
SG: Smart       / Young
SF: Green       / top 10 pick
PF: Sully        / KO
 C: Max         / Zellar

So in conclusion , we have to move Wallace, Bradley , Turner , Vitor  and clips pick while taking no long term salary back to have a shot of re-signing Rondo and Green and having the ability to offer a max to (Gasol, Hibbert, Aldridge,Lopez, Big Al Khawhi, )

actually if we tank another season (big if). I don't mind seeing Green and Sully being packaged to send and trade for an elite player who's upset with his role (maybe Carmelo-esque player). Then sign a max free agent?

Rondo/Max/Max

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Re: Jeff Green???
« Reply #11 on: December 03, 2014, 12:25:02 PM »

Offline BitterJim

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If we are keeping Rondo and Jeff ,

Wallace, Vitor and Turner have to be moved by the draft to clear cap space .  That likely means giving up at least a few draft picks ( maybe clippers and cle)

Say we then give Rondo 15 and Jeff 12 .

Cut pressey and Powell

Cap holds and likely top 10 pick would put us close to 55 mil . That only gives us about 8-10 mil in salary cap .  So that means Bradley would have to be move to clear more cap space to even have a chance to sign a max  free agent .

leaves us with

PG: Rondo       / 
SG: Smart       / Young
SF: Green       / top 10 pick
PF: Sully        / KO
 C: Max         / Zellar

So in conclusion , we have to move Wallace, Bradley , Turner , Vitor  and clips pick while taking no long term salary back to have a shot of re-signing Rondo and Green and having the ability to offer a max to (Gasol, Hibbert, Aldridge,Lopez, Big Al Khawhi, )

I think our best chance is with a sign and trade.  We won't have much for cap space, but we have some good contracts for it (Wallace and Turner will be expiring, I think Pressey is non guaranteed, etc.) and other movable assets to work with (future picks/rookie contracts to offset the other team taking Wallace/Turner, etc.)
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Re: Jeff Green???
« Reply #12 on: December 03, 2014, 12:27:13 PM »

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He's not a good rebounder and he's an average defender.  He's scoring 18ppg as the leading scorer on a not-so-great team.  At this point, Green is expendable to me.  I'd rather have Trevor Ariza for 7M than Green for 12M.

Re: Jeff Green???
« Reply #13 on: December 03, 2014, 12:35:44 PM »

Offline thehumburger

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I wasn't a JG supporter the last couple years and was pleased to be proven wrong for the start of this season. His PER and shooting percentages have dropped closer to his norm recently but I think I'd still lean towards keeping him, esp if we plan on keeping Rondo. However I'd qualify that with what someone is willing to give and how the team is doing in another month or so. If we're sitting at 13 wins halfway through January then the season is lost and I'd say nothing is off the table. If someone is willing to give a reasonable offer for him or even Rondo I'd probably do it.

Re: Jeff Green???
« Reply #14 on: December 03, 2014, 01:26:09 PM »

Offline Fred Roberts

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I don't know that I could watch the Celtics without Green. He's one of the more interesting players we have. He can surprise you game to game.

I still think he has yet to hit his ceiling. Late bloomer, whatever you want to call him .. .