If we're dealing Rondo, which prospect would you most want to see come our way?

[Celtics4ever]

I think the CAVS are the best target with their need of a PG.   Though I am loathe to help LeBron.

[TwinTower14]

Rondo is a non scorer , pass first player on a turrible team .  ....a horribly under talented team , with no elite players . 

Of course he is going to look bad most nights .......

He has NO TALENT, no center ,  other than Jeff Green and a young Sully nobody to help him.

This team is Danny doing ......he owns it ...good and bad

Rondo didn't build this team .

What about his horrendous shooting? Does he own that? Or is that Danny's fault too?

[Greenback]

A second round pick, even a late second round draft pick, any year.

[PickNRoll]

Just because I don't want to start another thread, here are guys around the league who may be available either now or in the offseason that I'm interested in.  I'm focusing on cheap or potentially realistic targets.

Donald Sloan, IND - he hasn't been very efficient, but can create offense.  Good spark plug guy.

Ed Davis, LAL - Lunch pail type, glass cleaner.  Believe he's a FA and he's played his way into another contract.

Tony Wroten, PHI - always liked his game.  2 more years on the books with Philly, but maybe they'd let him go with MCW there.

Biyombo, CHA - as discussed in another thread

Marreese Speights, GSW - player option for next year at only 3M

Reggie Jackson, OKC - scorer, Rondo replacement?

Bogdanovic - I'd buy low if Brooklyn is selling

Gary Harris, Nurkic, DEN - couple rookies who haven't blossomed that I really like.  Harris is a more well-rounded Bradley

[Sixth Man]

If DA does trade him, I doubt he could do better than a late 1st and some cap space.

In the real world, salaries have to match....

Yes, and I am assuming that an equivalent salary would come our way.  Otherwise, forget about a 1st round draft pick. 

[Sixth Man]

I think the CAVS are the best target with their need of a PG.   Though I am loathe to help LeBron.

In the real world, GMs like DA don't worry about LeBron, they worry about their own teams...

[TheFlex]

After reading through all the replies it appears to me that OKC is the best trading partner. I think they would be interested in Rondo, and I believe Westbrook would be suited better at the 2 guard. I wrote on this forum back in August:

I do certainly think Scott Brooks plays a big role in the mismanagement of Westbrook and Durant, which is one of the reasons I think he should be fired. I don't think your point about Durant's regular season shot attempts with/without Westbrook tells the whole story though. After all, OKC's problem isn't in the regular season but rather in the playoffs, where ball movement ceases to exist (to the naked eye).

Let's look at 2011-12 (Westbrook healthy, playoff career high minutes at SG, trip to Finals), 2012-13 (no Westbrook) and 2013-14 (healthy Westbrook, MVP Durant, yet frustrating WCF loss). The reason I attempt to look at all three is because I think my perception of the Westbrook/Durant duo is being misinterpreted. I think Westbrook helps Durant as a player regardless of the position he plays.  This is shown by the differential in the percentage of assisted baskets between Durant's 2012-13 playoff campaign and his 2013-14 campaign. Of his two-point FGM, 23.3% were assisted in 2012-13. In 2013-14, 53%. A similar differential can be seen in his percentage of three-pointers assisted. These stats suggest Westbrook takes pressure off Durant, creating more open/less contested shots for him. Westbrook's prowess as a scorer and an offensive threat are the same whether he plays PG or SG. When he's off the floor, Durant is forced into isolation.

My argument is more that Westbrook would help Durant even more so and be a more efficient player at SG. Now look at the 2011-12 playoffs. Westbrook played 33% of his minutes at SG, the highest percentage of his playoff career (and it's not even close; next highest percentage is 8% in 2013-14). During the playoff campaign, Westbrook shot career playoff highs in FG% and eFG% outside of his rookie year. Only his TS% was lower in 2011-12 than it was this year, which can be attributed to a far higher FT% this year (something that has little to do with him playing PG vs SG). Most importantly, Durant also found unique success with Westbrook playing more SG during the 2011-12 playoffs. His eFG% was 57%, 5.9% higher than his second career playoff high (which happened to be during this year's playoffs).

There's an argument to be made that the Thunder might just not be as good as they were in 2011-12 with Harden. Westbrook and Durant are, however, yet they played much less efficiently this year than they did in 2011-12. The argument I'm trying to make when I say "create more opportunities for Durant" has nothing to do with shot attempts. Durant already shoots about 20 times a game and there's only so many shots to go around. It has to do with efficiency and offensive fluidity, something that the Thunder's playoff offense lacks despite boasting three Olympians, one of which is the MVP.

I don't think we could get Ibaka for Rondo anymore without throwing in an appealing package of picks -- as I had proposed in the thread containing the quote above -- but OKC still has a slew of young players and picks that could entice Ainge to relinquish Rondo.

Here are a couple of proposals that I like.

http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=pjfvcam

BOS trades: Rajon Rondo
BOS receives: Kendrick Perkins, Harrison Barnes, Reggie Jackson

OKC trades: Kendrick Perkins, Reggie Jackson, Jeremy Lamb, Mitch McGary
OKC receives: Rajon Rondo

GSW trades: Harrison Barnes
GSW receives: Jeremy Lamb, Mitch McGary

http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=kg7uaul

BOS trades: Rajon Rondo, 2015 LAC 1st rounder
BOS receives: Kendrick Perkins, Noah Vonleh, Reggie Jackson, 2015 CHA 1st rounder

OKC trades: Kendrick Perkins, Reggie Jackson, Jeremy Lamb, Mitch McGary
OKC receives: Rajon Rondo

CHA trades: Noah Vonleh, 2015 CHA 1st rounder
CHA receives: Jeremy Lamb, Mitch McGary, 2015 LAC 1st rounder

This one is pretty wacky, but I like it...

http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=pvk6vun

BOS trades: Rajon Rondo, Kelly Olynyk, 2015/16 PHI 2nds
BOS receives: Kendrick Perkins, Bojan Bogdanovic, Shabazz Muhammad, Gorgui Dieng, Mason Plumlee

OKC trades: Kendrick Perkins, Reggie Jackson, Mitch McGary, Perry Jones III
OKC receives: Rajon Rondo, Ronny Turiaf

BKN trades: Bojan Bogdanovic, Mason Plumlee
BKN receives: Reggie Jackson, Kelly Olynyk

MIN trades: Shabazz Muhammad, Gorgui Dieng
MIN receives: Jeremy Lamb, Mitch McGary, Perry Jones III, 2015/16 PHI 2nds

[PickNRoll]

I think I would do all of those trades, Flex, so they must be too good to be true. 

[TheFlex]

I think I would do all of those trades, Flex, so they must be too good to be true. 

Haha, TP. You're probably right.

[SHAQATTACK]

Rondo is a non scorer , pass first player on a turrible team .  ....a horribly under talented team , with no elite players . 

Of course he is going to look bad most nights .......

He has NO TALENT, no center ,  other than Jeff Green and a young Sully nobody to help him.

This team is Danny doing ......he owns it ...good and bad

Rondo didn't build this team .

What about his horrendous shooting? Does he own that? Or is that Danny's fault too?

He shots poorly...did I not mention the is a non scorer  ...nothing new  ....but that didn't matter when he had good players to help him,   Yes it is Danny's fault ...he has not signed quality players to help Rondp

Soon as Danny get off his rear and gets Rondo some help ....maybe Rondo can play the way he is suppose to.

With this group ....I'm surprised he tries .

[inverselock]

Rondo is a non scorer , pass first player on a turrible team .  ....a horribly under talented team , with no elite players . 

Of course he is going to look bad most nights .......

He has NO TALENT, no center ,  other than Jeff Green and a young Sully nobody to help him.

This team is Danny doing ......he owns it ...good and bad

Rondo didn't build this team .

What about his horrendous shooting? Does he own that? Or is that Danny's fault too?

He shots poorly...did I not mention the is a non scorer  ...nothing new  ....but that didn't matter when he had good players to help him,   Yes it is Danny's fault ...he has not signed quality players to help Rondp

Soon as Danny get off his rear and gets Rondo some help ....maybe Rondo can play the way he is suppose to.

With this group ....I'm surprised he tries .

Rondo will command a huge contract.   When you look at how championship teams are constructed, is elite playmaking a top priority?   It seems that scoring and defence is where the money is spent.   I believe team offence replaces the need for an elite playmaker.

[jambr380]

I think Sacramento remains an interesting option. They were [reportedly] once willing to give up Ben, Isaiah, and their first (at least one) for him. If this still holds somewhat true, a trade where Rondo goes to Sac, McLemore and maybe the LAC/Clev/Philly pick go to Philly, and Stauskas and Noel come to Boston isn't out of the realm of possibility - even though many of you will say so.

Houston also makes too much sense, but outside of their Pelicans pick, I am not sure what exactly would work for us.

And of course a Rondo for Kyrie package would be phenomenal at this stage. Boston would have to give up additional compensation, but this would be beneficial for both teams. Relieving Lebron of ball-handling duties would do wonders for him game as he grows older.

As you can see, I am a Rondo believer and feel he still has considerable value. If we take it all the way to free agency, we can at least sign and trade him for a decent return (the team receiving him would guarantee his return).

[TheFlex]

I think Sacramento remains an interesting option. They were [reportedly] once willing to give up Ben, Isaiah, and their first (at least one) for him. If this still holds somewhat true, a trade where Rondo goes to Sac, McLemore and maybe the LAC/Clev/Philly pick go to Philly, and Stauskas and Noel come to Boston isn't out of the realm of possibility - even though many of you will say so.

Houston also makes too much sense, but outside of their Pelicans pick, I am not sure what exactly would work for us.

And of course a Rondo for Kyrie package would be phenomenal at this stage. Boston would have to give up additional compensation, but this would be beneficial for both teams. Relieving Lebron of ball-handling duties would do wonders for him game as he grows older.

As you can see, I am a Rondo believer and feel he still has considerable value. If we take it all the way to free agency, we can at least sign and trade him for a decent return (the team receiving him would guarantee his return).

What about Rondo to Houston for the Pelicans pick and Terrence Jones to the Wolves for Gorgui Dieng? Would you do that deal?

edit: Obviously salaries would have to match.

[jambr380]

So Dieng and the Pelicans pick? Maybe, but only if we know that Rondo isn't re-signing. Also, I think I would rather have Jones and trade one of Sully/KO for Dieng in a separate deal. Jones is producing on a very quality team.

[rondohondo]

Unless it's to the Lakers for a top 5 pick, or the Knicks for a top 5 pick, I don't really see Danny giving up the chance to re-sign Rondo and put a max contract next to him ( Hibbert, Gasol, Love, Aldridge ). I don't see Danny Passing on a chance to somehow talk one of them into signing here for a player like Ben McLemore and a last 1st rd pick .

They said they wanted to make fireworks last year, I am pretty sure they are going to want to this off-season when they actually have cap space to go after a max free agent to add to rondo  .

PG: Rondo                      / Smart ( trade chip)
SG: Bradley                    / Turner
SF: Green(if he opts in)  / Wallace ( exp trade chip)
PF: Sully                         /KO (trade chip)
 C: Hibbert                   / Zellar

*2015 top 10 pick
*2015 Clips pick

That is a 45 win team , with trade chips in Sully, Smart, KO, top 10 pick(likely) , and all the Brooklyn picks to add another star .

I would much rather go this route than hoping one of our draft picks becomes a star in 5 years from now , it is a total crapshoot .