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3 Point Shooting is not an Acceptable Identity For the team
« on: December 01, 2014, 12:29:05 PM »

Offline KingofDaPlayazBall

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Really Brad Stevens??? 3 Pointer are the easiest shot to get in Basketball, and your strategy revolves around just taking 3s?  My biggest disappointment in Stevens is that he has yet to build up an identity for this team, there is no foundation for a good basketball system.  Every time I watch their games fail to see what their strategy revolves around or what the focus is, it just seems like every player is doing their own thing.   

We all know Boston is not a place that will attract Super Star level players, but Boston is more appealing to blue collar players.  Celtics need to go back to Defensive basketball like in the big 3 era.  Play with grit and toughness and grind down the opponents.  I know we are missing a good rim protector, but I want to see the team get the rotation right and the intensity level up.

If you want to say we lack the players for defensive basketball, we are lacking more in offensive talent to play offensive basketball.  Marcus Smart is our franchise piece and he would thrive in a 08 Celtics type of environment.  Celtics are more likely to get back to contending caliber through defense than through offense

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I'd love to see them play basketball like we did in the big three era of 08...However, we are missing the key ingredients to the system. 1) KG 2)Pierce 3)Allen.

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Really Brad Stevens??? 3 Pointer are the easiest shot to get in Basketball, and your strategy revolves around just taking 3s?  My biggest disappointment in Stevens is that he has yet to build up an identity for this team, there is no foundation for a good basketball system.  Every time I watch their games fail to see what their strategy revolves around or what the focus is, it just seems like every player is doing their own thing.   

We all know Boston is not a place that will attract Super Star level players, but Boston is more appealing to blue collar players.  Celtics need to go back to Defensive basketball like in the big 3 era.  Play with grit and toughness and grind down the opponents.  I know we are missing a good rim protector, but I want to see the team get the rotation right and the intensity level up.

If you want to say we lack the players for defensive basketball, we are lacking more in offensive talent to play offensive basketball.  Marcus Smart is our franchise piece and he would thrive in a 08 Celtics type of environment.  Celtics are more likely to get back to contending caliber through defense than through offense
The strategy is simple, pace and space
It's the same as the spurs, and spurs also takes a lot 3s
It's the player(Rondo) can't or refuse to execute that drags the whole team down

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« Reply #3 on: December 01, 2014, 01:02:57 PM »

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I'd love to see them play basketball like we did in the big three era of 08...However, we are missing the key ingredients to the system. 1) KG 2)Pierce 3)Allen.

You Don't need specific players to implement a defense focused basketball system, again if you read what i said i was not talking about player talent I'm talking about coaching.  I'm not saying going the defensive route will immediately make us a lot better, I am saying doing so we will make us better when the team get more talent.

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Can we stamp out the idea of 'Blue Collar' players please?
At least a goldfish with a Lincoln Log on its back goin' across your floor to your sock drawer has a miraculous connotation to it.

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« Reply #5 on: December 01, 2014, 01:07:59 PM »

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Really Brad Stevens??? 3 Pointer are the easiest shot to get in Basketball, and your strategy revolves around just taking 3s?  My biggest disappointment in Stevens is that he has yet to build up an identity for this team, there is no foundation for a good basketball system.  Every time I watch their games fail to see what their strategy revolves around or what the focus is, it just seems like every player is doing their own thing.   

We all know Boston is not a place that will attract Super Star level players, but Boston is more appealing to blue collar players.  Celtics need to go back to Defensive basketball like in the big 3 era.  Play with grit and toughness and grind down the opponents.  I know we are missing a good rim protector, but I want to see the team get the rotation right and the intensity level up.

If you want to say we lack the players for defensive basketball, we are lacking more in offensive talent to play offensive basketball.  Marcus Smart is our franchise piece and he would thrive in a 08 Celtics type of environment.  Celtics are more likely to get back to contending caliber through defense than through offense
The strategy is simple, pace and space
It's the same as the spurs, and spurs also takes a lot 3s
It's the player(Rondo) can't or refuse to execute that drags the whole team down

If pace and space is the strategy than I have not seen it, I have not seen it with Rondo on the floor and i have not seen it with Rondo off the floor.  Stevens is trying to implement a strategy that does not suit the team, he needs to sit down and re-evaluate, the only person this strategy is catered to is Olynyk and with his defense he will be out of the league sooner than later

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Really Brad Stevens??? 3 Pointer are the easiest shot to get in Basketball, and your strategy revolves around just taking 3s? 

You know we're 2nd in the league in points in the paint, and only 12th in 3 pointers attempted, despite playing the 2nd fastest pace, right?

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« Reply #7 on: December 01, 2014, 01:11:14 PM »

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Really Brad Stevens??? 3 Pointer are the easiest shot to get in Basketball, and your strategy revolves around just taking 3s? 

You know we're 2nd in the league in points in the paint, and only 12th in 3 pointers attempted, despite playing the 2nd fastest pace, right?

This. People act like they could do a better job head coaching.. Please...
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« Reply #8 on: December 01, 2014, 01:11:27 PM »

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Can we stamp out the idea of 'Blue Collar' players please?

Players that are next tier to superstars, good players but not the ones under heavy spotlight, players that are good pieces to a team but not talented enough to score 25+ a game on a playoff team.

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so 'good players', then?
At least a goldfish with a Lincoln Log on its back goin' across your floor to your sock drawer has a miraculous connotation to it.

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Really Brad Stevens??? 3 Pointer are the easiest shot to get in Basketball, and your strategy revolves around just taking 3s? 

You know we're 2nd in the league in points in the paint, and only 12th in 3 pointers attempted, despite playing the 2nd fastest pace, right?

Show me you sources, I doubt that is true, if it is i will delete this post.

3 pt attempts

Points in the paint 

Pace

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« Reply #12 on: December 01, 2014, 01:20:14 PM »

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Really Brad Stevens??? 3 Pointer are the easiest shot to get in Basketball, and your strategy revolves around just taking 3s?  My biggest disappointment in Stevens is that he has yet to build up an identity for this team, there is no foundation for a good basketball system.  Every time I watch their games fail to see what their strategy revolves around or what the focus is, it just seems like every player is doing their own thing.   

We all know Boston is not a place that will attract Super Star level players, but Boston is more appealing to blue collar players.  Celtics need to go back to Defensive basketball like in the big 3 era.  Play with grit and toughness and grind down the opponents.  I know we are missing a good rim protector, but I want to see the team get the rotation right and the intensity level up.

If you want to say we lack the players for defensive basketball, we are lacking more in offensive talent to play offensive basketball.  Marcus Smart is our franchise piece and he would thrive in a 08 Celtics type of environment.  Celtics are more likely to get back to contending caliber through defense than through offense
The strategy is simple, pace and space
It's the same as the spurs, and spurs also takes a lot 3s
It's the player(Rondo) can't or refuse to execute that drags the whole team down
interesting points. would you please expand on them and show more details on how current players are having trouble playing within the pace and space system? thanks in advance.
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« Reply #13 on: December 01, 2014, 01:24:12 PM »

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Really Brad Stevens??? 3 Pointer are the easiest shot to get in Basketball, and your strategy revolves around just taking 3s? 

You know we're 2nd in the league in points in the paint, and only 12th in 3 pointers attempted, despite playing the 2nd fastest pace, right?

Show me you sources, I doubt that is true, if it is i will delete this post.
http://www.basketball-reference.com/leagues/NBA_2015.html

http://stats.nba.com/league/team/#!/shooting/?sort=Restricted%20Area%20FGA&dir=1&DistanceRange=By%20Zone

The data is all there. The C's are not a particularly 3 point heavy team given their pace, nor are they very good at making 3 point shots either.

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« Reply #14 on: December 01, 2014, 01:24:46 PM »

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Really Brad Stevens??? 3 Pointer are the easiest shot to get in Basketball, and your strategy revolves around just taking 3s? 

You know we're 2nd in the league in points in the paint, and only 12th in 3 pointers attempted, despite playing the 2nd fastest pace, right?

Show me you sources, I doubt that is true, if it is i will delete this post.

3 pt attempts

Points in the paint 

Pace
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