Will Sacramento go for Rondo without an extension guarantee?

[Tr1boy]

We are not getting a prime young player like drummond or klay thompson for rondo. So if a trade is going to happen ,mclemore, stauskus and maybe a pick is a dcent return for a half year rental

  Not so sure Drummond's really looking like the star everyone thinks he is, but that's for another thread.

So you'd rather have Rondo than Drummond going forward?

I'd rather have the ball in Rondo's hands than Drummond's down two with less than ten seconds left.   

I guess you somehow erased what happened last game.  I rather feed the ball to Drummond in the post with less than 10 seconds less

[slamtheking]

SAC trades: Ben McLemore, Carl Landry, 2015 SAC 1st, 2016 SAC 1st
SAC receives: Rajon Rondo, 2015 DAL 1st

Don't believe they can do this, Cleveland has rights to Sacramento's pick if it's outside the top 10, and they have no other 1sts in each year, so they can't trade consecutive 1sts anyway.

You are right, good sir. TP for the catch.

No thanks.

Essentially, you're trading your best player for a pu-pu platter of nothing.

  Great for Sactown though. If our goal is to deplete our team to better another this fits the bill.

In you opinion. Stauskus and mc would work well under BS bc of their shooting capabilities and we get defense (mclemore), ball handing (stauskus) plus both are young that BS can mold them they way he prefers . cheap contracts

The team wont be any worse vs with rondo. Better for the long run. This is also good for rondo and his future

I would think having Bradley, Stauskas and McLemore all on the roster is redundant.

Getting a little wacky here, but what do you think about something like this?

http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=qc9xjj5

BOS trades: Rajon Rondo
BOS receives: Thomas Robinson, Ben McLemore, John Henson, 2016 POR 1st rounder

SAC trades: Carl Landry, Ben McLemore, Nik Stauskas
SAC receives: Rajon Rondo, Will Barton

MIL trades: John Henson
MIL receives: Nik Stauskas

POR trades: Thomas Robinson, 2016 POR 1st rounder
POR receives: Carl Landry

Thoughts?

this deal still sucks as badly as the first one for the C's.  C's get nothing of real value for Rondo.  Henson might turn into a serviceable starter someday but he's not now.  that pick is well out of the lottery.  Robinson and Mclemore are negligible players at this point. 

[TheFlex]

SAC trades: Ben McLemore, Carl Landry, 2015 SAC 1st, 2016 SAC 1st
SAC receives: Rajon Rondo, 2015 DAL 1st

Don't believe they can do this, Cleveland has rights to Sacramento's pick if it's outside the top 10, and they have no other 1sts in each year, so they can't trade consecutive 1sts anyway.

You are right, good sir. TP for the catch.

No thanks.

Essentially, you're trading your best player for a pu-pu platter of nothing.

  Great for Sactown though. If our goal is to deplete our team to better another this fits the bill.

In you opinion. Stauskus and mc would work well under BS bc of their shooting capabilities and we get defense (mclemore), ball handing (stauskus) plus both are young that BS can mold them they way he prefers . cheap contracts

The team wont be any worse vs with rondo. Better for the long run. This is also good for rondo and his future

I would think having Bradley, Stauskas and McLemore all on the roster is redundant.

Getting a little wacky here, but what do you think about something like this?

http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=qc9xjj5

BOS trades: Rajon Rondo
BOS receives: Thomas Robinson, Ben McLemore, John Henson, 2016 POR 1st rounder

SAC trades: Carl Landry, Ben McLemore, Nik Stauskas
SAC receives: Rajon Rondo, Will Barton

MIL trades: John Henson
MIL receives: Nik Stauskas

POR trades: Thomas Robinson, 2016 POR 1st rounder
POR receives: Carl Landry

Thoughts?

this deal still sucks as badly as the first one for the C's.  C's get nothing of real value for Rondo.  Henson might turn into a serviceable starter someday but he's not now.  that pick is well out of the lottery.  Robinson and Mclemore are negligible players at this point. 

Lol. McLemore's second season... career hopes = cooked.

[slamtheking]

We are not getting a prime young player like drummond or klay thompson for rondo. So if a trade is going to happen ,mclemore, stauskus and maybe a pick is a dcent return for a half year rental

  Not so sure Drummond's really looking like the star everyone thinks he is, but that's for another thread.

So you'd rather have Rondo than Drummond going forward?

I'd rather have the ball in Rondo's hands than Drummond's down two with less than ten seconds left.   

I guess you somehow erased what happened last game.  I rather feed the ball to Drummond in the post with less than 10 seconds less

and who's going to get it to him?  Evan (TO) Turner? 

[slamtheking]

Sacramento looks really good so far this year. They're 6-4 after beating San Antonio last night. DMC looks like he's coming into his own as a legitimate franchise player. Could they contend in the Western Conference with our very own Rajon Rondo?

I think a Big Three of Rondo/Gay/DMC with a surrounding cast of guys like Collinson, Stauskas, Casspi, Thompson, etc. could, at the very least, make some noise in the playoffs. They'd have a puncher's chance of reaching the Finals.

This is a scenario I'm interested in seeing play out. I was unconvinced that they'd go for Rondo without a guarantee that he'd stay if they started out the season playing as they did last year. Will their hungry owner relent on Rondo's insistence on testing free agency now that he has a team that's just one piece away from contending?

Here's a three-team scenario I've found myself warming up to:

http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=nn6xptg

BOS trades: Rajon Rondo
BOS receives: Raymond Felton, Ben McLemore, Greg Smith, 2015 SAC 1st, 2016 SAC 1st

SAC trades: Ben McLemore, Carl Landry, 2015 SAC 1st, 2016 SAC 1st
SAC receives: Rajon Rondo, 2015 DAL 1st

DAL trades: Raymond Felton, Greg Smith, 2015 DAL 1st
DAL receives: Carl Landry

Yes? No? Why or why not? Should we get Dallas' 1st?

edit: SAC's playoff rotation:

Rondo/D. Collison/Ramon Sessions
Stauskas/[Casspi]/[R. Sessions]
Gay/Omri Casspi
Thompson/Reggie Evans
DMC

you must be a Kings fan to propose something this lopsided against the C's.  the prime reason for making a trade for the C's is to get better, not significantly set back the franchise.

Rondo is a top player.  no one coming back in this deal should even be a starter on a mediocre team.  Those 2 Sac picks will be well outside the lottery because if they aren't in the playoffs without Rondo, they'll definitely be in after this lopsided deal

What do you think of the deal I just proposed above you?

commented on my dislike for that one too

[LooseCannon]

We are not getting a prime young player like drummond or klay thompson for rondo. So if a trade is going to happen ,mclemore, stauskus and maybe a pick is a dcent return for a half year rental

  Not so sure Drummond's really looking like the star everyone thinks he is, but that's for another thread.

So you'd rather have Rondo than Drummond going forward?

I'd rather have the ball in Rondo's hands than Drummond's down two with less than ten seconds left.   

I guess you somehow erased what happened last game.  I rather feed the ball to Drummond in the post with less than 10 seconds less

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Not really a big fan of feeding the ball to someone who can barely make 40% of his free throws.

[BballTim]

We are not getting a prime young player like drummond or klay thompson for rondo. So if a trade is going to happen ,mclemore, stauskus and maybe a pick is a dcent return for a half year rental

  Not so sure Drummond's really looking like the star everyone thinks he is, but that's for another thread.

So you'd rather have Rondo than Drummond going forward?

I'd rather have the ball in Rondo's hands than Drummond's down two with less than ten seconds left.   

I guess you somehow erased what happened last game.  I rather feed the ball to Drummond in the post with less than 10 seconds less

  I guess you somehow erased Drummond's entire career, assuming you've ever seen him play.

[Tr1boy]

We are not getting a prime young player like drummond or klay thompson for rondo. So if a trade is going to happen ,mclemore, stauskus and maybe a pick is a dcent return for a half year rental

  Not so sure Drummond's really looking like the star everyone thinks he is, but that's for another thread.

So you'd rather have Rondo than Drummond going forward?

I'd rather have the ball in Rondo's hands than Drummond's down two with less than ten seconds left.   

I guess you somehow erased what happened last game.  I rather feed the ball to Drummond in the post with less than 10 seconds less

  I guess you somehow erased Drummond's entire career, assuming you've ever seen him play.

yes i have. And unlike Rondo he doesn't try to be a player he is not. 

[jwmann2]

They do need a true point guard since Tyreke Evans is no longer a King. That's what they've been missing. Does Rondo make them a legitimate title contender? No way. Rockets, Clippers, Spurs and Mavericks are going to be one of the teams in the NBA finals, count on it. The Mavericks and Clippers have a ton of depth.
Would Rondo and Cousins but-heads as teammates? Cousins thinks this is his team but Rondo is the veteran that would quickly try to change that.

[Al91]

I think the players are too happy with Collison to be up for a Rondo trade. Obviously it's not up to them but from what I've read Thomas wasn't exactly the locker room favorite for whatever reason. I thought Collison was a horrible signing since he had never really proven to be a good starter but losing Thomas to PHX and grabbing Collison has been good for about everyone involved.

[BballTim]

We are not getting a prime young player like drummond or klay thompson for rondo. So if a trade is going to happen ,mclemore, stauskus and maybe a pick is a dcent return for a half year rental

  Not so sure Drummond's really looking like the star everyone thinks he is, but that's for another thread.

So you'd rather have Rondo than Drummond going forward?

I'd rather have the ball in Rondo's hands than Drummond's down two with less than ten seconds left.   

I guess you somehow erased what happened last game.  I rather feed the ball to Drummond in the post with less than 10 seconds less

  I guess you somehow erased Drummond's entire career, assuming you've ever seen him play.

yes i have. And unlike Rondo he doesn't try to be a player he is not.

  Frankly you're better off saying you've never seen him play than say you have and talking about feeding him the ball in the post for your last second shot. At least you'd have an excuse for that comment. Secondly, how exactly does Rondo try and be a player he's not? I'll bet dollars to doughnuts the answer will be you criticizing him for doing something you've attacked him for not doing in other games.

[playdream]

We are not getting a prime young player like drummond or klay thompson for rondo. So if a trade is going to happen ,mclemore, stauskus and maybe a pick is a dcent return for a half year rental

  Not so sure Drummond's really looking like the star everyone thinks he is, but that's for another thread.

So you'd rather have Rondo than Drummond going forward?

I'd rather have the ball in Rondo's hands than Drummond's down two with less than ten seconds left.   

I guess you somehow erased what happened last game.  I rather feed the ball to Drummond in the post with less than 10 seconds less

  I guess you somehow erased Drummond's entire career, assuming you've ever seen him play.

yes i have. And unlike Rondo he doesn't try to be a player he is not.

  Frankly you're better off saying you've never seen him play than say you have and talking about feeding him the ball in the post for your last second shot. At least you'd have an excuse for that comment. Secondly, how exactly does Rondo try and be a player he's not? I'll bet dollars to doughnuts the answer will be you criticizing him for doing something you've attacked him for not doing in other games.

Down 1, 7 secs, you give the ball to Rondo and what happened?
Nothing Happened
even coach stevens can do better than that!

[Tr1boy]

We are not getting a prime young player like drummond or klay thompson for rondo. So if a trade is going to happen ,mclemore, stauskus and maybe a pick is a dcent return for a half year rental

  Not so sure Drummond's really looking like the star everyone thinks he is, but that's for another thread.

So you'd rather have Rondo than Drummond going forward?

I'd rather have the ball in Rondo's hands than Drummond's down two with less than ten seconds left.   

I guess you somehow erased what happened last game.  I rather feed the ball to Drummond in the post with less than 10 seconds less

  I guess you somehow erased Drummond's entire career, assuming you've ever seen him play.

yes i have. And unlike Rondo he doesn't try to be a player he is not.

  Frankly you're better off saying you've never seen him play than say you have and talking about feeding him the ball in the post for your last second shot. At least you'd have an excuse for that comment. Secondly, how exactly does Rondo try and be a player he's not? I'll bet dollars to doughnuts the answer will be you criticizing him for doing something you've attacked him for not doing in other games.

BBALLTIM sometimes i'm not sure if your serious.

Did you not see what he did with 7 seconds left the last game? Or what he didn't do. HE didn't even take a shot before time ended.   If he knew even 50 percent in that instance the thing he had to do, he would of shot the ball regardless how ugly of a shot it was before the clock ended . If you don't have experience or are not that kind of player, than pass the ball quickly.

I'm starting to think Rondo has mediocre IQ.  He might be mistaken to be smart but is really just unorthodox.

[vjcsmoke]

Why would we want: Raymond Felton, Ben McLemore, or Greg Smith though?  They are unnecessary to this team.  Felton is a downgrade from Rondo.  McLemore isn't even an upgrade over AB.  And Greg Smith is fodder.  The two 1st round picks will be LATE picks because a team with Rondo, Cousins, etc. will be a playoff contender.

The Celtics have a deep backcourt rotation.  What they need is a true center.  Late 1st round picks are garbage right now.  What we need is a Lotto pick top 5 so we can get one of the big talents in the upcoming draft to give us a chance at Towns, etc.  A difference-making big man stud.

[Rondo9]

We are not getting a prime young player like drummond or klay thompson for rondo. So if a trade is going to happen ,mclemore, stauskus and maybe a pick is a dcent return for a half year rental

  Not so sure Drummond's really looking like the star everyone thinks he is, but that's for another thread.

So you'd rather have Rondo than Drummond going forward?

I'd rather have the ball in Rondo's hands than Drummond's down two with less than ten seconds left.   

I guess you somehow erased what happened last game.  I rather feed the ball to Drummond in the post with less than 10 seconds less

  I guess you somehow erased Drummond's entire career, assuming you've ever seen him play.

yes i have. And unlike Rondo he doesn't try to be a player he is not.

  Frankly you're better off saying you've never seen him play than say you have and talking about feeding him the ball in the post for your last second shot. At least you'd have an excuse for that comment. Secondly, how exactly does Rondo try and be a player he's not? I'll bet dollars to doughnuts the answer will be you criticizing him for doing something you've attacked him for not doing in other games.

BBALLTIM sometimes i'm not sure if your serious.

Did you not see what he did with 7 seconds left the last game? Or what he didn't do. HE didn't even take a shot before time ended.   If he knew even 50 percent in that instance the thing he had to do, he would of shot the ball regardless how ugly of a shot it was before the clock ended . If you don't have experience or are not that kind of player, than pass the ball quickly.

I'm starting to think Rondo has mediocre IQ.  He might be mistaken to be smart but is really just unorthodox.

One unfortunate mistake and Rondo's IQ is questioned? What happened to this site?