Will Sacramento go for Rondo without an extension guarantee?

[BballTim]

We are not getting a prime young player like drummond or klay thompson for rondo. So if a trade is going to happen ,mclemore, stauskus and maybe a pick is a dcent return for a half year rental

  Not so sure Drummond's really looking like the star everyone thinks he is, but that's for another thread.

[BballTim]

No thanks.

Essentially, you're trading your best player for a pu-pu platter of nothing.

Oversimplification, McLemore is only 21 with legitimate star potential. We get two firsts, one of which could have lotto potential if Rondo leaves them in the summer.

We're not getting a Love offer for Rondo. McLemore is the best prospect realistically available out of all the rumored Rondo suiters.

No thanks.

Essentially, you're trading your best player for a pu-pu platter of nothing.

  Great for Sactown though. If our goal is to deplete our team to better another this fits the bill.

Like it or not, Rondo's free agency has a lot to do with the motivation behind trading him. If Ainge is uncertain about Rondo's future with the team, getting McLemore and two firsts does not work towards depleting the team when you consider the reality that we may be left with nothing.

  Not sure how McLemore has "legitimate star potential", and I think I'd need more evidence that Rondo's leaving than a steady stream of statements about how Rondo wants to stay and the team wants to keep him before I'd downgrade my team like that. "We should trade Rondo for X because X is better than nothing" isn't a very good plan unless you're pretty sure Rondo's leaving. Plenty of people here wish he was but that's not the same thing.

[Eddie20]

We are not getting a prime young player like drummond or klay thompson for rondo. So if a trade is going to happen ,mclemore, stauskus and maybe a pick is a dcent return for a half year rental

  Not so sure Drummond's really looking like the star everyone thinks he is, but that's for another thread.

So you'd rather have Rondo than Drummond going forward?

[LooseCannon]

Yes they will.  Cousins and Gay want Rondo.

Maybe Rondo prefers to stay in Boston.

[mmmmm]

Yes they will.  Cousins and Gay want Rondo.

That's sweet.

I suspect Danny and Brad want Rondo too.

[BballTim]

We are not getting a prime young player like drummond or klay thompson for rondo. So if a trade is going to happen ,mclemore, stauskus and maybe a pick is a dcent return for a half year rental

  Not so sure Drummond's really looking like the star everyone thinks he is, but that's for another thread.

So you'd rather have Rondo than Drummond going forward?

  I'd have to see some Detroit games to see if he's been making some decent improvements that aren't showing up at all in his stats first, or maybe he's dealing with an injury I'm unaware of. But from what I've seen in the past he's been one of the more overrated players in the league on this board.

[BballTim]

Yes they will.  Cousins and Gay want Rondo.

That's sweet.

I suspect Danny and Brad want Rondo too.

  Not to mention the players.

[gpap]

No thanks.

Essentially, you're trading your best player for a pu-pu platter of nothing.

  Great for Sactown though. If our goal is to deplete our team to better another this fits the bill.

In you opinion. Stauskus and mc would work well under BS bc of their shooting capabilities and we get defense (mclemore), ball handing (stauskus) plus both are young that BS can mold them they way he prefers . cheap contracts

The team wont be any worse vs with rondo. Better for the long run. This is also good for rondo and his future

I would think having Bradley, Stauskas and McLemore all on the roster is redundant.

[Mazingerz]

No thanks.

Essentially, you're trading your best player for a pu-pu platter of nothing.

  Great for Sactown though. If our goal is to deplete our team to better another this fits the bill.

In you opinion. Stauskus and mc would work well under BS bc of their shooting capabilities and we get defense (mclemore), ball handing (stauskus) plus both are young that BS can mold them they way he prefers . cheap contracts

The team wont be any worse vs with rondo. Better for the long run. This is also good for rondo and his future

I would think having Bradley, Stauskas and McLemore all on the roster is redundant.

Collect all the Guards!!!!

[footey]

Rondo sounds like he is re-signing here. Let's stop this trade talk stuff, the only reason we would trade him would be because we did not think we could re-sign him .

Colt run defense is awful, btw.

[TheFlex]

SAC trades: Ben McLemore, Carl Landry, 2015 SAC 1st, 2016 SAC 1st
SAC receives: Rajon Rondo, 2015 DAL 1st

Don't believe they can do this, Cleveland has rights to Sacramento's pick if it's outside the top 10, and they have no other 1sts in each year, so they can't trade consecutive 1sts anyway.

You are right, good sir. TP for the catch.

No thanks.

Essentially, you're trading your best player for a pu-pu platter of nothing.

  Great for Sactown though. If our goal is to deplete our team to better another this fits the bill.

In you opinion. Stauskus and mc would work well under BS bc of their shooting capabilities and we get defense (mclemore), ball handing (stauskus) plus both are young that BS can mold them they way he prefers . cheap contracts

The team wont be any worse vs with rondo. Better for the long run. This is also good for rondo and his future

I would think having Bradley, Stauskas and McLemore all on the roster is redundant.

Getting a little wacky here, but what do you think about something like this?

http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=qc9xjj5

BOS trades: Rajon Rondo
BOS receives: Thomas Robinson, Ben McLemore, John Henson, 2016 POR 1st rounder

SAC trades: Carl Landry, Ben McLemore, Nik Stauskas
SAC receives: Rajon Rondo, Will Barton

MIL trades: John Henson
MIL receives: Nik Stauskas

POR trades: Thomas Robinson, 2016 POR 1st rounder
POR receives: Carl Landry

Thoughts?

[pearljammer10]

SAC trades: Ben McLemore, Carl Landry, 2015 SAC 1st, 2016 SAC 1st
SAC receives: Rajon Rondo, 2015 DAL 1st

Don't believe they can do this, Cleveland has rights to Sacramento's pick if it's outside the top 10, and they have no other 1sts in each year, so they can't trade consecutive 1sts anyway.

You are right, good sir. TP for the catch.

No thanks.

Essentially, you're trading your best player for a pu-pu platter of nothing.

  Great for Sactown though. If our goal is to deplete our team to better another this fits the bill.

In you opinion. Stauskus and mc would work well under BS bc of their shooting capabilities and we get defense (mclemore), ball handing (stauskus) plus both are young that BS can mold them they way he prefers . cheap contracts

The team wont be any worse vs with rondo. Better for the long run. This is also good for rondo and his future

I would think having Bradley, Stauskas and McLemore all on the roster is redundant.

Getting a little wacky here, but what do you think about something like this?

http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=qc9xjj5

BOS trades: Rajon Rondo
BOS receives: Thomas Robinson, Ben McLemore, John Henson, 2016 POR 1st rounder

SAC trades: Carl Landry, Ben McLemore, Nik Stauskas
SAC receives: Rajon Rondo, Will Barton

MIL trades: John Henson
MIL receives: Nik Stauskas

POR trades: Thomas Robinson, 2016 POR 1st rounder
POR receives: Carl Landry

Thoughts?

Landry might not be worth a second round pick never mind a first.

[LooseCannon]

We are not getting a prime young player like drummond or klay thompson for rondo. So if a trade is going to happen ,mclemore, stauskus and maybe a pick is a dcent return for a half year rental

  Not so sure Drummond's really looking like the star everyone thinks he is, but that's for another thread.

So you'd rather have Rondo than Drummond going forward?

I'd rather have the ball in Rondo's hands than Drummond's down two with less than ten seconds left.   

[TheFlex]

SAC trades: Ben McLemore, Carl Landry, 2015 SAC 1st, 2016 SAC 1st
SAC receives: Rajon Rondo, 2015 DAL 1st

Don't believe they can do this, Cleveland has rights to Sacramento's pick if it's outside the top 10, and they have no other 1sts in each year, so they can't trade consecutive 1sts anyway.

You are right, good sir. TP for the catch.

No thanks.

Essentially, you're trading your best player for a pu-pu platter of nothing.

  Great for Sactown though. If our goal is to deplete our team to better another this fits the bill.

In you opinion. Stauskus and mc would work well under BS bc of their shooting capabilities and we get defense (mclemore), ball handing (stauskus) plus both are young that BS can mold them they way he prefers . cheap contracts

The team wont be any worse vs with rondo. Better for the long run. This is also good for rondo and his future

I would think having Bradley, Stauskas and McLemore all on the roster is redundant.

Getting a little wacky here, but what do you think about something like this?

http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=qc9xjj5

BOS trades: Rajon Rondo
BOS receives: Thomas Robinson, Ben McLemore, John Henson, 2016 POR 1st rounder

SAC trades: Carl Landry, Ben McLemore, Nik Stauskas
SAC receives: Rajon Rondo, Will Barton

MIL trades: John Henson
MIL receives: Nik Stauskas

POR trades: Thomas Robinson, 2016 POR 1st rounder
POR receives: Carl Landry

Thoughts?

Landry might not be worth a second round pick never mind a first.

OK, so they don't give up the first. What do you think of the deal overall?

[slamtheking]

Sacramento looks really good so far this year. They're 6-4 after beating San Antonio last night. DMC looks like he's coming into his own as a legitimate franchise player. Could they contend in the Western Conference with our very own Rajon Rondo?

I think a Big Three of Rondo/Gay/DMC with a surrounding cast of guys like Collinson, Stauskas, Casspi, Thompson, etc. could, at the very least, make some noise in the playoffs. They'd have a puncher's chance of reaching the Finals.

This is a scenario I'm interested in seeing play out. I was unconvinced that they'd go for Rondo without a guarantee that he'd stay if they started out the season playing as they did last year. Will their hungry owner relent on Rondo's insistence on testing free agency now that he has a team that's just one piece away from contending?

Here's a three-team scenario I've found myself warming up to:

http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=nn6xptg

BOS trades: Rajon Rondo
BOS receives: Raymond Felton, Ben McLemore, Greg Smith, 2015 SAC 1st, 2016 SAC 1st

SAC trades: Ben McLemore, Carl Landry, 2015 SAC 1st, 2016 SAC 1st
SAC receives: Rajon Rondo, 2015 DAL 1st

DAL trades: Raymond Felton, Greg Smith, 2015 DAL 1st
DAL receives: Carl Landry

Yes? No? Why or why not? Should we get Dallas' 1st?

edit: SAC's playoff rotation:

Rondo/D. Collison/Ramon Sessions
Stauskas/[Casspi]/[R. Sessions]
Gay/Omri Casspi
Thompson/Reggie Evans
DMC

you must be a Kings fan to propose something this lopsided against the C's.  the prime reason for making a trade for the C's is to get better, not significantly set back the franchise.

Rondo is a top player.  no one coming back in this deal should even be a starter on a mediocre team.  Those 2 Sac picks will be well outside the lottery because if they aren't in the playoffs without Rondo, they'll definitely be in after this lopsided deal