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Will Sacramento go for Rondo without an extension guarantee?
« on: November 16, 2014, 02:32:50 PM »

Offline TheFlex

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Sacramento looks really good so far this year. They're 6-4 after beating San Antonio last night. DMC looks like he's coming into his own as a legitimate franchise player. Could they contend in the Western Conference with our very own Rajon Rondo?

I think a Big Three of Rondo/Gay/DMC with a surrounding cast of guys like Collinson, Stauskas, Casspi, Thompson, etc. could, at the very least, make some noise in the playoffs. They'd have a puncher's chance of reaching the Finals.

This is a scenario I'm interested in seeing play out. I was unconvinced that they'd go for Rondo without a guarantee that he'd stay if they started out the season playing as they did last year. Will their hungry owner relent on Rondo's insistence on testing free agency now that he has a team that's just one piece away from contending?

Here's a three-team scenario I've found myself warming up to:

http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=nn6xptg

BOS trades: Rajon Rondo
BOS receives: Raymond Felton, Ben McLemore, Greg Smith, 2015 SAC 1st, 2016 SAC 1st

SAC trades: Ben McLemore, Carl Landry, 2015 SAC 1st, 2016 SAC 1st
SAC receives: Rajon Rondo, 2015 DAL 1st

DAL trades: Raymond Felton, Greg Smith, 2015 DAL 1st
DAL receives: Carl Landry

Yes? No? Why or why not? Should we get Dallas' 1st?

edit: SAC's playoff rotation:

Rondo/D. Collison/Ramon Sessions
Stauskas/[Casspi]/[R. Sessions]
Gay/Omri Casspi
Thompson/Reggie Evans
DMC
« Last Edit: November 16, 2014, 02:55:51 PM by TheFlex »


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Re: Will Sacramento go for Rondo without an extension guarantee?
« Reply #1 on: November 16, 2014, 03:01:51 PM »

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No thanks.

Essentially, you're trading your best player for a pu-pu platter of nothing.

Re: Will Sacramento go for Rondo without an extension guarantee?
« Reply #2 on: November 16, 2014, 03:13:26 PM »

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Sacramento's pretty good. They just defeated the Spurs yesterday and had Memphis on the ropes a few nights ago. Don't think those picks would be too high. Besides, the Kings wouldn't be able to trade either of those picks since the 2015 one might be going to Chicago.

McLemore has shown a lot of the promise this year that made him a top 7 pick.

Re: Will Sacramento go for Rondo without an extension guarantee?
« Reply #3 on: November 16, 2014, 03:23:47 PM »

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I would love to see SacTo break their playoff drought.
At least a goldfish with a Lincoln Log on its back goin' across your floor to your sock drawer has a miraculous connotation to it.

Re: Will Sacramento go for Rondo without an extension guarantee?
« Reply #4 on: November 16, 2014, 03:38:42 PM »

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How much does it matter that Sacramento lost to OKC without Westbrook/Durant?
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Re: Will Sacramento go for Rondo without an extension guarantee?
« Reply #5 on: November 16, 2014, 03:46:13 PM »

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Yes they will.  Cousins and Gay want Rondo.

To Sac= Rondo
To Bos = Stauskus and Mclemore

Other trade : bass for 2nd round pick



 

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« Reply #6 on: November 16, 2014, 03:47:49 PM »

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It's not really up to them.
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Re: Will Sacramento go for Rondo without an extension guarantee?
« Reply #7 on: November 16, 2014, 04:11:01 PM »

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Yes they will.  Cousins and Gay want Rondo.

To Sac= Rondo
To Bos = Stauskus and Mclemore

Ainge is not that foolish.  That would be a terrible trade.  You may not believe it, or like it, but you really need to accept that is the reality of the matter.

Re: Will Sacramento go for Rondo without an extension guarantee?
« Reply #8 on: November 16, 2014, 04:14:04 PM »

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No thanks.

Essentially, you're trading your best player for a pu-pu platter of nothing.

  Great for Sactown though. If our goal is to deplete our team to better another this fits the bill.

Re: Will Sacramento go for Rondo without an extension guarantee?
« Reply #9 on: November 16, 2014, 04:27:32 PM »

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No thanks.

Essentially, you're trading your best player for a pu-pu platter of nothing.

  Great for Sactown though. If our goal is to deplete our team to better another this fits the bill.

In you opinion. Stauskus and mc would work well under BS bc of their shooting capabilities and we get defense (mclemore), ball handing (stauskus) plus both are young that BS can mold them they way he prefers . cheap contracts

The team wont be any worse vs with rondo. Better for the long run. This is also good for rondo and his future

Re: Will Sacramento go for Rondo without an extension guarantee?
« Reply #10 on: November 16, 2014, 04:32:28 PM »

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We are not getting a prime young player like drummond or klay thompson for rondo. So if a trade is going to happen ,mclemore, stauskus and maybe a pick is a dcent return for a half year rental

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We are not getting a prime young player like drummond or klay thompson for rondo. So if a trade is going to happen ,mclemore, stauskus and maybe a pick is a dcent return for a half year rental

It may be true that we can't get an elite player for Rondo, but I have no interest in what Sacramento has to offer. So far, I am loving what Rondo is doing this year - even if his shooting has been a bit blah. The only way I trade him is in a three-team deal where we receive a player (preferably a center) who is the same caliber as Rondo and the other team gets McLemore and picks from Sac.

Re: Will Sacramento go for Rondo without an extension guarantee?
« Reply #12 on: November 16, 2014, 04:41:01 PM »

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No thanks.

Essentially, you're trading your best player for a pu-pu platter of nothing.

Oversimplification, McLemore is only 21 with legitimate star potential. We get two firsts, one of which could have lotto potential if Rondo leaves them in the summer.

We're not getting a Love offer for Rondo. McLemore is the best prospect realistically available out of all the rumored Rondo suiters.

No thanks.

Essentially, you're trading your best player for a pu-pu platter of nothing.

  Great for Sactown though. If our goal is to deplete our team to better another this fits the bill.


Like it or not, Rondo's free agency has a lot to do with the motivation behind trading him. If Ainge is uncertain about Rondo's future with the team, getting McLemore and two firsts does not work towards depleting the team when you consider the reality that we may be left with nothing.


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Re: Will Sacramento go for Rondo without an extension guarantee?
« Reply #13 on: November 16, 2014, 04:53:28 PM »

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Who was the better player: Rondo now or Harden just before he was dealt to Houston? Rondo.

Who had more potential at the time?: Harden

Who had less of an injury history?: Harden

Who had more contract security?: Harden

What did the Thunder get for Harden?: Kevin Martin, Jeremy Lamb, two firsts (one of which was a top-7 protected from Toronto), a second rounder.

Who is the best prospect between the proposed deal for Rondo and the Rockets deal for Harden? Ben McLemore (by a lot).

Who got the best pick package: Thunder

Just some perspective.


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Re: Will Sacramento go for Rondo without an extension guarantee?
« Reply #14 on: November 16, 2014, 05:04:09 PM »

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SAC trades: Ben McLemore, Carl Landry, 2015 SAC 1st, 2016 SAC 1st
SAC receives: Rajon Rondo, 2015 DAL 1st

Don't believe they can do this, Cleveland has rights to Sacramento's pick if it's outside the top 10, and they have no other 1sts in each year, so they can't trade consecutive 1sts anyway.