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Re: Bradley is an awful starting SG
« Reply #30 on: November 13, 2014, 12:54:53 AM »

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yes... Bradley has some flaws in his game. It wasn't just him, the entire team played without any sense of urgency.
I think they actually missed Smart.

i agree with many of you, as difficult as it maybe, I have to watch this mess again.
That's why we need to consider put Smart over Rondo
Anyone saw that at the beginning of the game Rondo is taking the ball up front
AND he slowed down and start to walk!!!
How can the team play with urgency and effort when your captain is taking it easy??

Re: Bradley is an awful starting SG
« Reply #31 on: November 13, 2014, 12:55:55 AM »

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Avery was one of the best players on the court tonight, strictly because of his defense.  The C's  needed a stopper to deal with Reggie Jackson, and Bradley was very strong in the first half.  After that Joey Crawford took over.  I'm so sick of NBA officiating.  if the game doesn't fit a narrative the refs are allowed to do whatever they want.  When Pierce, Garnett and Allen were here, we got the benefit of the doubt more often than not.  We were known as a good defensive team.  When AB busts his ass, he doesn't get the same call.  It's disgusting.  College refs are better.

We did?  Were we watching the same team, lol?

Re: Bradley is an awful starting SG
« Reply #32 on: November 13, 2014, 12:59:50 AM »

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felt that way about him for a couple of seasons.  he's not starter material.  he'd be better as a change-of-pace guard off the bench to harass a tired starter or inferior bench PG.  his offense is better suited to being opportunistic -- backdoor cuts, open jumpers as a 3rd/4th option.

Yeah, I always thought that he was a Lindsey Hunter type player, only a better shooter but worse ball handler and passer.  I was hoping that he'd develop into more than that, and he has improved at going to the basket, but I can't stand his inept passing and dribbling 'skills' lol.  I don't think he's awful, though.  He just has tunnel vision ;D.

Re: Bradley is an awful starting SG
« Reply #33 on: November 13, 2014, 03:23:49 AM »

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He is what he is, which is a role player on a good team. He shouldn't be a go-to guy but nobody else on the team fits that bill either. It's not his fault that on this team he's expected to score consistently.

His lack of size/length and strength is also an impediment to being a more complete defender.

Who said he's a go to guy?

Re: Bradley is an awful starting SG
« Reply #34 on: November 13, 2014, 05:01:22 AM »

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Bradley is the 35th ranked shooting guard in PER.

Courtney Lee and Gerald Green are ranked in the top ten.

Ainge should have kept Lee and traded Bradley.

Bradley is too small to play the two effectively.
« Last Edit: November 13, 2014, 05:07:18 AM by Chris22 »

Re: Bradley is an awful starting SG
« Reply #35 on: November 13, 2014, 05:13:17 AM »

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Bradley is the 35th ranked shooting guard in PER.

Courtney Lee and Gerald Green are ranked in the top ten.

Ainge should have kept Lee and traded Bradley.

Bradley is too small to play the two effectively.

He could be a high-quality 3&D backup to young Mr. Young in a couple of years.

Re: Bradley is an awful starting SG
« Reply #36 on: November 13, 2014, 05:14:23 AM »

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He is what he is, which is a role player on a good team. He shouldn't be a go-to guy but nobody else on the team fits that bill either. It's not his fault that on this team he's expected to score consistently.

His lack of size/length and strength is also an impediment to being a more complete defender.

Who said he's a go to guy?

Or that nobody else on the team is? I'd trust Sully, KO and JG ahead of Bradley in crunch time.

Re: Bradley is an awful starting SG
« Reply #37 on: November 13, 2014, 06:21:18 AM »

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i'm not an AB supporter. but we didn't lose this game because of him, we lost this game because we couldn't figure out how to beat a zone defense.

Re: Bradley is an awful starting SG
« Reply #38 on: November 13, 2014, 06:52:11 AM »

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Avery is the player with the highest +/- (+6) on this team tonight.

Guess you didn't watch the game?

Stats don't lie, bucko. And he shot 5/10 from inside the arc, so he wasn't taking low percentage shots. It's just his 3s weren't falling (2/9) and that happens from time to time for every player.
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« Reply #39 on: November 13, 2014, 07:01:10 AM »

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I like AB. But I have not seen him shutdown anyone on defense in awhile.
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Re: Bradley is an awful starting SG
« Reply #40 on: November 13, 2014, 07:38:02 AM »

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He is decent but I do not think he will be a star, he doesn't have the hunger to step up to the plate when the games matter.

I think this team misses MS.   The tone he sets on D is contagious.   We lacked that last night.

Re: Bradley is an awful starting SG
« Reply #41 on: November 13, 2014, 09:17:36 AM »

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felt that way about him for a couple of seasons.  he's not starter material.  he'd be better as a change-of-pace guard off the bench to harass a tired starter or inferior bench PG.  his offense is better suited to being opportunistic -- backdoor cuts, open jumpers as a 3rd/4th option.

I'm probably over my limit on Bradley bashing posts so I won't beat the dead horse too much here but I've never been a fan of Bradley's game at all. He moves great without the ball on the baseline for those backdoor cuts and that's where he should get the most of his offense (if he finishes the darn layup).

I havent been a fan since we drafted him but he has really got on my nerves the last couple seasons because he is trying to do waaaaay too much. He is playing outside of his game and it is really hurting the team. His role should be lockdown, bulldog defender, pestering the other teams point guard the length of the floor, and then relying on his movement without the ball on offense. He is VERY good at both those things (wow, that took me a lot to admit) and he should stick to playing his role and excelling at those parts of his game.

And I hate....HATE...Evan Turner. But I think it says something about my feelings towards Avery Bradley when Stevens took Bradley out in the last 4 or so minutes of the game and put in Turner because Bradley was getting torched by Morrow on defense and it made me so dang happy.

Bradley could be a very pesky 7th man who comes in and changes the momentum of the game in a positive way for us by his full court defense. If he sticks to that, then I can stand him. As a starter, not so much.

Re: Bradley is an awful starting SG
« Reply #42 on: November 13, 2014, 10:04:15 AM »

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Don't forget...his reputation is based on being an "on ball defender" (2nd team all NBA)
He may not be a great team defender.
To be a on ball defender, you have to pick up the ball handler early, this may not be what Stevens has in mind for this team at times.
When I key on Bradley on the defensive end, he looks like he's always being picked off, on the pick and roll, then he just loses his man. (He's not a big strong 2.) His man just happened to be a lights out shooter/scorer in this case.

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« Reply #43 on: November 13, 2014, 10:13:55 AM »

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felt that way about him for a couple of seasons.  he's not starter material.  he'd be better as a change-of-pace guard off the bench to harass a tired starter or inferior bench PG.  his offense is better suited to being opportunistic -- backdoor cuts, open jumpers as a 3rd/4th option.

I'm probably over my limit on Bradley bashing posts so I won't beat the dead horse too much here but I've never been a fan of Bradley's game at all. He moves great without the ball on the baseline for those backdoor cuts and that's where he should get the most of his offense (if he finishes the darn layup).

I havent been a fan since we drafted him but he has really got on my nerves the last couple seasons because he is trying to do waaaaay too much. He is playing outside of his game and it is really hurting the team. His role should be lockdown, bulldog defender, pestering the other teams point guard the length of the floor, and then relying on his movement without the ball on offense. He is VERY good at both those things (wow, that took me a lot to admit) and he should stick to playing his role and excelling at those parts of his game.

And I hate....HATE...Evan Turner. But I think it says something about my feelings towards Avery Bradley when Stevens took Bradley out in the last 4 or so minutes of the game and put in Turner because Bradley was getting torched by Morrow on defense and it made me so dang happy.

Bradley could be a very pesky 7th man who comes in and changes the momentum of the game in a positive way for us by his full court defense. If he sticks to that, then I can stand him. As a starter, not so much.
pretty much on board with what you've said.  I do think that as a 3rd/4th option (preferably 4th) on offense, he'd be a decent midrange shooter if the D is keyed on better offensive players.  when he's the first or second offensive option (in his head at least), he's hurting the team

Re: Bradley is an awful starting SG
« Reply #44 on: November 13, 2014, 10:51:17 AM »

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He is decent but I do not think he will be a star, he doesn't have the hunger to step up to the plate when the games matter.

I think this team misses MS.   The tone he sets on D is contagious.   We lacked that last night.
And thanks god for that. There's nothing that I want to see less than Avery Bradley airballing jumpers when the games matter.
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