Bradley is an awful starting SG

[Eddie20]

Did you see the shots he was taking tonight? just throwing up complete garbage jumpers that had no chance of going in . He acts like he is a go to player on offense, and for some reasons Stevens just keeps running plays for him . He can't guard anymore because he spends so much energy running around picks on offense . Doesn't cut anymore , doesn't defend anymore , not a playmaker . He is a 3rd guard at best .

Can't wait to see Smart back, hopefully in a month or so  . 

KO is 6-9 on the night and actually a skilled offensive player,Sully 7-13  , but Bradley is taking 19 shots and shooting the C's out of the game for a big chunk of the game ......

You should consider changing the pic on your sig....

[RJ87]

I gotta watch this game again, it usually helps.


My first watching it, if not for fouls most of this game AB had lock on RJ... then in the 3rd RR was switched onto him and he hit a 3. I said from there, he will get hot and he did, it was no stopping him.

Now, I guess we are going to also blame AB for Morrow?

You people are funny. Blamed AB for Brooks getting hot in the Bulls game too.


I wanna see how many of RJ's 28pts were with AB on him b/c it better be at least 20 of them. Then I want to see Morrow's points on AB too. I want to know b/c I could easily be wrong about this game. I will gladly admit to being wrong too. I just need to know either way.

I'm not blaming AB for the loss - this was a team effort.  My gripe with AB is about is about his black hole tendencies on offense. Even he's locked in defensively, there's few as disruptive as he is.

[Rosco917]

yes... Bradley has some flaws in his game. It wasn't just him, the entire team played without any sense of urgency.
I think they actually missed Smart.

i agree with many of you, as difficult as it maybe, I have to watch this mess again.

[ImShakHeIsShaq]

I gotta watch this game again, it usually helps.


My first watching it, if not for fouls most of this game AB had lock on RJ... then in the 3rd RR was switched onto him and he hit a 3. I said from there, he will get hot and he did, it was no stopping him.

Now, I guess we are going to also blame AB for Morrow?

You people are funny. Blamed AB for Brooks getting hot in the Bulls game too.


I wanna see how many of RJ's 28pts were with AB on him b/c it better be at least 20 of them. Then I want to see Morrow's points on AB too. I want to know b/c I could easily be wrong about this game. I will gladly admit to being wrong too. I just need to know either way.

I'm not blaming AB for the loss - this was a team effort.  My gripe with AB is about is about his black hole tendencies on offense. Even he's locked in defensively, there's few as disruptive as he is.

Please, I was going in on him shooting so much in the chat tonight but they are talking about his defense.


I really want to see the game again to pay direct attention to AB on defense. No one is going to argue shot selection tonight.

Just tired of seeing these threads when he has an off night but it's cricket most of the season (like last season). Same goes for threads on RR.


Even if AB never gets back to the level he was, he is still one of the better defenders, people who argue against that just don't like him. Personally, I don't think he will get back to that level because of injuries. I mean, I doubt I would continuously fight through screens after having surgery on both shoulders because they kept being knocked out. He may not be the same defender but he is just smarter at not risking his career by fighting through every pick. People say he can't stay healthy, either you take healthy or take him balls to the wall on defense. I prefer he defend decently and actually play than what he use to do and injure himself and not be able to play!

[TheFlex]

This kid is not Rondo, he's not a franchise player. If he has the potential to be, he certainly isn't one right now at 24. So why are we holding him to the standard of one?

AB shouldn't be expected to transcend the talent of his teammates. Role players, even ones of starting caliber, generally see their level of play sink when surrounded by less talented teammates. Let's give the kid credit, he continues to show major improvement on his shot and overall offensive game. I've been disappointed with his D but I'm holding off on a verdict until we get our long-desired rim protector.

[Rondo9]

A lot of blame for this loss and lately has been placed on Avery Bradley, and the way people have been talking about you would believe he's the worst starting player in the NBA. While I do think Bradley takes too much long range jumpers for my liking, I don't think he's a terrible player at least Anige doesn't think that. I didn't watch the game tonight, so I don't know what happened, so I say to you: Bradley really a very bad player? Is most of the criticism leveled towards him justified? If not why?

[D.o.s.]

He's no Phil Pressey, that's for sure. 

[Endless Paradise]

He seems to be morphing into a black hole chucker.

[playdream]

Can't make the (open) shot
Can't make the contested shot
Can't dribble
Can't pass
Can't defend without fouling(2FT for opponent)
When he has hot hand he can contribute, but that's it
8m is way overpaid

[knuckleballer]

He tries to do more on offense than he's capable of and does not show the intensity on defense he did a couple of seasons ago.  More than likely the latter is a result of the former.  What he needs is to be surrounded by more talent so he can focus his energy more on defense than offense.  Ideally his minutes should be limited too.  He's really a 3 and d guy who is taking on a featured role on offense.

[wiley]

No. He's not that bad at all.  He's not the type to shine on a bad team imo.  He actually will shine more once the C's are good again.  When there are a couple more offensive options and an anchor for the defense Bradley's strengths will be on display again as his role will come back into clearer focus.

He can start on a great team (think Thabo Sef. with a bit less defense due to size and a bit more offense, or the Celtics in the playoffs before he got injured), but I also picture him as a spark off the bench who is allowed to bother the opposing PG with full gusto.  I think Smart makes sense as a starter but maybe not until later in the year or even next season.  Smart has an advantage being so big and strong.  He'll miss more threes than Avery but he's the kind of player who should be on the floor as much as possible.

[GetLucky]

No. He's not that bad at all.  He's not the type to shine on a bad team imo.  He actually will shine more once the C's are good again.  When there are a couple more offensive options and an anchor for the defense Bradley's strengths will be on display again as his role will come back into clearer focus.

He can start on a great team (think Thabo Sef. with a bit less defense due to size and a bit more offense, or the Celtics in the playoffs before he got injured), but I also picture him as a spark off the bench who is allowed to bother the opposing PG with full gusto.  I think Smart makes sense as a starter but maybe not until later in the year or even next season.  Smart has an advantage being so big and strong.  He'll miss more threes than Avery but he's the kind of player who should be on the floor as much as possible.

I was about to post a really sarcastic comment about the law of averages, but then I saw this. This is a very good comparison and one that I haven't seen before. TP

Not skipping a beat, does this mean Bradley is starter-worthy on a contender???

[wiley]

This kid is not Rondo, he's not a franchise player. If he has the potential to be, he certainly isn't one right now at 24. So why are we holding him to the standard of one?

AB shouldn't be expected to transcend the talent of his teammates. Role players, even ones of starting caliber, generally see their level of play sink when surrounded by less talented teammates. Let's give the kid credit, he continues to show major improvement on his shot and overall offensive game. I've been disappointed with his D but I'm holding off on a verdict until we get our long-desired rim protector.

Agree on this.  Well said.  I said something similar in the other Bradley thread.

[TheFlex]

Can't make the (open) shot
Can't make the contested shot
Can't dribble
Can't pass
Can't defend without fouling(2FT for opponent)
When he has hot hand he can contribute, but that's it
8m is way overpaid

Wrong.
Wrong.
Wrong.
Wrong.
Wrong.

[TheFlex]

No. He's not that bad at all.  He's not the type to shine on a bad team imo.  He actually will shine more once the C's are good again.  When there are a couple more offensive options and an anchor for the defense Bradley's strengths will be on display again as his role will come back into clearer focus.

He can start on a great team (think Thabo Sef. with a bit less defense due to size and a bit more offense, or the Celtics in the playoffs before he got injured), but I also picture him as a spark off the bench who is allowed to bother the opposing PG with full gusto.  I think Smart makes sense as a starter but maybe not until later in the year or even next season.  Smart has an advantage being so big and strong.  He'll miss more threes than Avery but he's the kind of player who should be on the floor as much as possible.

Agreed. At 24 he's Thabo with a better shot and more opportunistic off-ball movement, though less versatile on D (due to size). It's very hard for Avery's aggressive defensive style to be effective without a shot blocker behind him. When he does have one behind him,  however, it has the potential to be a game-changer (2011-12).