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« on: October 27, 2014, 04:43:54 PM »

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http://www.nba.com/celtics/news/pressrelease/celtics-finalize-opening-night-roster

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The Boston Celtics announced today that they have waived guards Will Bynum, Tim Frazier and Rodney McGruder, forwards Erik Murphy and Christian Watford, and guard/forward Jarell Eddie.

Bynum, a 6’0” guard who was acquired from Detroit in a trade on October 17th, appeared in 56 games for the Detroit Pistons last season where he averaged 8.7 points, 1.8 rebounds and 3.9 assists in 18.8 minutes per game.

Frazier, a 6’1” guard, appeared in four contests for the Celtics during preseason, totaling three points, four assists and two steals in 23 minutes.

McGruder, a 6’4” guard, appeared in three games for the team and totaled six points and two rebounds in 15 minutes.

Murphy, a 6’10” forward, appeared in four matchups and totaled two rebounds in 12 minutes.

Watford, a 6’9” forward, appeared in three games and saw seven minutes of action on the court.

Eddie, a 6’7” guard/forward who was claimed off of waivers by the Celtics on October 23rd, appeared in three contests for the Atlanta Hawks during the preseason and averaged 2.7 points in 13.0 minutes per game over that span.

The Celtics roster now stands at 15.
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Re: Waived players
« Reply #1 on: October 27, 2014, 04:50:05 PM »

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I guess there were no takers for Bynum.  I'm not incredibly surprised, as we only acquired him to rid our obligation to Anthony.

So Danny got two early second-rounders for taking on what turned out to be $2.9 million in dead money this year.
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« Reply #2 on: October 27, 2014, 04:52:21 PM »

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Quote from: saltlover on October 27, 2014, 04:50:05 PM
I guess there were no takers for Bynum.  I'm not incredibly surprised, as we only acquired him to rid our obligation to Anthony.

So Danny got two early second-rounders for taking on what turned out to be $2.9 million in dead money this year.

Plus we still have a TPE thanks to trader Danny.
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Re: Waived players
« Reply #3 on: October 27, 2014, 04:54:16 PM »

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Darn. I thought that the Lakers or Wizards might bite on Bynum.
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« Reply #4 on: October 27, 2014, 05:20:24 PM »

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They still might want Bynum, they probably just didn't want to have to use any assets to acquire him.  It's much like how the Magic couldn't give away Turkoglu, Harrington, and Big Baby for free, yet once they were bought out, the Wizards and the Clippers scooped them up immediately.  Teams knew the Celtics didn't have any use for Bynum and were going to have to cut him if they couldn't find a suitable trade partner.
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« Reply #5 on: October 28, 2014, 05:14:52 AM »

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Disgusted that Ainge waived W.Bynum in order to keep Pressey.

Will Bynum was a top 10-15 backup PG in the league for last few years. Pressey is a borderline case to even be in the league. Awful.
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« Reply #6 on: October 28, 2014, 05:42:15 AM »

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Quote from: Who on October 28, 2014, 05:14:52 AM
Disgusted that Ainge waived W.Bynum in order to keep Pressey.

Will Bynum was a top 10-15 backup PG in the league for last few years. Pressey is a borderline case to even be in the league. Awful.

Nowhere near as awful as trading anything over 25 with a smidgen of worth for 2nd rounders.
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« Reply #7 on: October 28, 2014, 07:45:52 AM »

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Bynum didn't fit in our plans and he is cheaper and puts us under the luxury tax.  Still think we are not tanking to some degree?
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« Reply #8 on: October 28, 2014, 08:28:08 AM »

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Quote from: Who on October 28, 2014, 05:14:52 AM
Disgusted that Ainge waived W.Bynum in order to keep Pressey.

Will Bynum was a top 10-15 backup PG in the league for last few years. Pressey is a borderline case to even be in the league. Awful.

I think you're overrating Bynum.  Bynum was traded for Joel Anthony.  Joel Anthony had negative value, as we got 3 second round picks for taking on his contract this year.  While Anthony's negative value decreased once the free agent signing period had ended, he had not moved to the positive side of the ledger.  Accordingly, Bynum likely had similar value.  This is confirmed by the fact that Danny was unable to trade him, presumably without giving up assets to do so.  $3 million for a good backup point guard is not exorbitant in the NBA, so given the lack of demand for Bynum's services, I find it unlikely he is actually considered a good backup point guard by much of the league.

Mind you, I'm not saying that Pressey is better.  But I don't think Bynum was going to move the needle all that much.  Also, given that Bynum would have been the third or even fourth string point guard, behind Smart and Turner, it wouldn't have surprised me if another Bogans situation developed, especially considering Bynum was acquired, met with Danny, and then was told not to even show up to practice.
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« Reply #9 on: October 28, 2014, 11:06:05 AM »

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Quote from: Who on October 28, 2014, 05:14:52 AM
Disgusted that Ainge waived W.Bynum in order to keep Pressey.

Will Bynum was a top 10-15 backup PG in the league for last few years. Pressey is a borderline case to even be in the league. Awful.
don't worry, the celtics will still lose lots and lots of games regardless of who the third string pg is. bynum was not moving this team into the playoffs.
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Re: Waived players
« Reply #10 on: October 28, 2014, 11:12:59 AM »

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more surprised we waived Eddie just like that. We claimed him off waivers just to waive him a few days later
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« Reply #11 on: October 28, 2014, 11:17:29 AM »

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Quote from: manl_lui on October 28, 2014, 11:12:59 AM
more surprised we waived Eddie just like that. We claimed him off waivers just to waive him a few days later

Prob going to d league
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« Reply #12 on: October 28, 2014, 11:21:45 AM »

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Quote from: manl_lui on October 28, 2014, 11:12:59 AM
more surprised we waived Eddie just like that. We claimed him off waivers just to waive him a few days later

That's a pretty standard move to grab a guy so you can assign him to your D-League affiliate and completely predicted by everyone paying attention.  The Hawks don't have a one-to-one relationship with a D-League team, so they have done Eddie a favor by giving him a better chance to find employment in the D-League.
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« Reply #13 on: October 28, 2014, 12:20:53 PM »

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Quote from: Who on October 28, 2014, 05:14:52 AM
Disgusted that Ainge waived W.Bynum in order to keep Pressey.

Will Bynum was a top 10-15 backup PG in the league for last few years. Pressey is a borderline case to even be in the league. Awful.
I really like Bynum and agree that he was a very good backup PG, but we aren't going for a championship this year.  Ainge would rather try to develop Pressey than gain an extra win or so.
Also agree that Pressey is barely an NBA player.
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« Reply #14 on: October 28, 2014, 01:09:17 PM »

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Quote from: Who on October 28, 2014, 05:14:52 AM
Disgusted that Ainge waived W.Bynum in order to keep Pressey.

Will Bynum was a top 10-15 backup PG in the league for last few years. Pressey is a borderline case to even be in the league. Awful.

Strong words that don't consider the bigger issue, finding playing time for that type of player (over Smart, Bradley, Turner, Thornton) which could be a big negative on the bench, we're jammed as it is.

Secondly, from a financial standpoint, it would've been better to keep Bynum, but Pressey's contract next year as marginal as it is, it's more useful. And for the little play time we actually have available to give Pressey just fits better even if Bynum is leagues better.

You're better off just letting Bynum go even if it's a decrease in talent (unused as it will probably be).

So in the end I don't see this as much of a Bynum vs. Pressey issue, but an opportunity issues and the problems it may cause when it's lacking.
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