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Re: Eastern Conference Predictions
« Reply #15 on: October 19, 2014, 06:09:20 PM »

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Here's my attempt at the East:

Playoffs:

Cleveland
Chicago
Washington
Toronto
Miami
Atlanta
Brooklyn
Boston

Out:

Charlotte
Detroit
New York
Indiana

Milwaukee
Orlando
Philadelphia

Chicago
Cleveland
Washington
Toronto
Miami
Charlotte
Atlanta
Celtics

Detroit
New York
Indiana
Brooklyn
Milwaukee
Orlando
Philly


We give Chicago a run in the playoffs

End up losing

Brooklyn pick becomes the 2nd overall
We draft Karl Towns and Willie Caulie Stein

Sign Marc Gasol in the offseason

Starting 5 of

Rondo
Avery
Green
Sully
Gasol

Bench of

Smart
Young
Towns
Kelly
Stein

Towns will play SF and PF, he's going to show he's a Mini Durant this season.

Kind of dream scenerio



Re: Eastern Conference Predictions
« Reply #16 on: October 19, 2014, 06:10:52 PM »

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1. Chicago
2. Cleveland
3. Washington
4. Toronto
5. Charlotte
6. Miami
7. Atlanta
8. Boston

9. Brooklyn
10. Detroit
11. New York
12. Indiana
13. Orlando
14. Milwaukee
15. Philly
I am pretty sure you' ve got this one right  ;D

Is there anyone out there who dares make an argument for the Sixers being above 15th in the East and
30th overall?

DKC Seventy-Sixers:

PG: G. Hill/D. Schroder
SG: C. Lee/B. Hield/T. Luwawu
SF:  Giannis/J. Lamb/M. Kuzminskas
PF:  E. Ilyasova/J. Jerebko/R. Christmas
C:    N. Vucevic/K. Olynyk/E. Davis/C. Jefferson

Re: Eastern Conference Predictions
« Reply #17 on: October 19, 2014, 06:31:32 PM »

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Cleveland
Chicago (only other team that has a shot at #1 seed)
Miami
Washington
Toronto
Atlanta
Charlotte
Brooklyn

New York (could sneak in if Lopez and Williams miss a lot of time in Brooklyn)
Detroit
Indy (I don't think they're gonna completely fall apart.  I'm guessing 35-38 wins)
Milwaukee (I think they win around 30 games if Sanders is healthy.  Could plummet if not)
Boston
Orlando (Orlando and Boston will be neck and neck for the 2nd worst record in the East)
Philadelphia (0-82?)


Re: Eastern Conference Predictions
« Reply #18 on: October 19, 2014, 06:34:18 PM »

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Brooklyn pick becomes the 2nd overall
We draft Karl Towns and Willie Caulie Stein

Kind of dream scenerio

Trouble is we don't have Brooklyn's 2015 pick.

Re: Eastern Conference Predictions
« Reply #19 on: October 19, 2014, 07:49:40 PM »

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Here's my attempt at the East:

Playoffs:

Cleveland
Chicago
Washington
Toronto
Miami
Atlanta
Brooklyn
Boston

Out:

Charlotte
Detroit
New York
Indiana

Milwaukee
Orlando
Philadelphia
chicago
cleveland
toronto
washington
indiana
miami
boston
atlanta
brooklyn

yep i think boston can do that well
brooklyn has a big chance of falling apart as does NY, Indy
charlotte and detroit could surprise like the celtics
toronto i feel is a good team, good could surprise in a series

Re: Eastern Conference Predictions
« Reply #20 on: October 19, 2014, 07:52:50 PM »

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Here's my attempt at the East:

Playoffs:

Cleveland
Chicago
Washington
Toronto
Miami
Atlanta
Brooklyn
Boston

Out:

Charlotte
Detroit
New York
Indiana

Milwaukee
Orlando
Philadelphia
chicago
cleveland
toronto
washington
indiana
miami
boston
atlanta
brooklyn

yep i think boston can do that well
brooklyn has a big chance of falling apart as does NY, Indy
charlotte and detroit could surprise like the celtics
toronto i feel is a good team, good could surprise in a series

Why do you have Indy that high? You do clarify that they have a big chance of falling apart, but why do you have expectations of them being that high in the first place?

Re: Eastern Conference Predictions
« Reply #21 on: October 19, 2014, 07:58:45 PM »

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I think they will stay together basically.  I'm not sold on miami at all.  Atlanta ehh and brooklyn I expect to implode.  Has less to do with indy being strong that the rest of the field not being that good.
I wouldn't be shocked if detroit was at indy's spot.  I'm so unimpressed with the east that besides the top three teams in any order I see anything could happen (but none of those teams would go far)

Re: Eastern Conference Predictions
« Reply #22 on: October 19, 2014, 08:01:07 PM »

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I think they will stay together basically.  I'm not sold on miami at all.  Atlanta ehh and brooklyn I expect to implode.  Has less to do with indy being strong that the rest of the field not being that good.
I wouldn't be shocked if detroit was at indy's spot.  I'm so unimpressed with the east that besides the top three teams in any order I see anything could happen (but none of those teams would go far)
oops didn't quote but this was for budweiserceltic's response

Re: Eastern Conference Predictions
« Reply #23 on: October 19, 2014, 08:06:51 PM »

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I think they will stay together basically.  I'm not sold on miami at all.  Atlanta ehh and brooklyn I expect to implode.  Has less to do with indy being strong that the rest of the field not being that good.
I wouldn't be shocked if detroit was at indy's spot.  I'm so unimpressed with the east that besides the top three teams in any order I see anything could happen (but none of those teams would go far)

Stephenson not there anymore, Paul George injured (maybe for the full season), you think they have enough remaining without them?

Re: Eastern Conference Predictions
« Reply #24 on: October 19, 2014, 08:14:01 PM »

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probably, george hurts bad
hibbert steps up? good coaching and larry, west i think quite highly of
like i said the other teams just don't' impress that much
bosh as the dominate player in miami? wade will be hurt, deng is a good pickup but i feel he's a middle of road sf

Re: Eastern Conference Predictions
« Reply #25 on: October 19, 2014, 08:18:10 PM »

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East for me goes:

1. Cleveland
2. Chicago
3. Washington
4. Miami
5. Toronto
6. Charlotte
7. Atlanta
8. Brooklyn

New York
Detroit
Indiana

Boston
Milwaukee
Orlando

Philly

Re: Eastern Conference Predictions
« Reply #26 on: October 19, 2014, 08:30:09 PM »

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I know a lot of people are high on Chicago, but I think people are forgetting last season. Before the season, everyone thought Rose would be back and the Bulls would be dominated. Instead he was hurt again and they languished for the 5th seed. D-Rose has barely played any basketball in two seasons, and he has not yet shown that he can play again. He was terrible on Team USA. Sorry, I can't give the Bulls any faith unless D-Rose can show he can play basketball again. Even if he eventually gets back into form, I highly doubt it will be before the end of the season. I think the most realistic scenario for the Bulls is they limp to a 4) seed, but Rose rounds into form enough at the end of the season to lead them to a strong playoff run.

With that in mind, here are my standings:

EAST:

1) Cleveland- Love is inarguably a better fit for Lebron than Bosh. In Toronto, Bosh was an interior scorer with a nice midrange game. In Miami, he became primarily a shooter, especially from 3-point land, and his numbers went down. Just look at Bosh's shot charts from 2008 vs 2013. Love already gets his numbers playing the role Bosh played in Miami. Sure, they will go down because his usage will go down overall, but I fully expect him to remain an offensive juggernaut. Their defense may be pretty bad overall this season, the East just isn't strong enough for me to doubt they will grab the #1.
2) Toronto- As I explained above, I don't see Chicago being substantially better than last season in terms of their overall record. Toronto was 3) last year and are likely to improve. They have a young, talented roster.
3) Washington Wizards- As with Toronto, they were pretty good last year. I think their record last year was worse than they "deserved" with their talent level; they struggled early in the season but really clicked towards the end. They fell apart against Indiana in the playoffs, but I think with Pierce in the locker-room and a playoff run under their belts, they will finally put together a good season.
4) Chicago Bulls- Already explained.
5) Charlotte Hornets- They were a great defensive team last year, and had a great off-season. I like Noah Vonleh for them. I think Lance Stephenson is going to have a great season. Probably struggle out of the gate, but his per-minute numbers last season were better than Paul George's, and Charlotte is a well-coached team.
6) Miami Heat- I think this is the best case scenario for them. If Wade isn't healthy I expect them to be lower. But I think Wade gives them some good minutes for ~50-60 games this season, and for Bosh to have a mini-comeback season. He's still in his prime, and I think Spoelstra is smart enough to taylor his offense a la his Toronto days. I think Bosh has his best season since Toronto statistically. I expect them to be the type of team that whips all the bad teams in the league but struggles against other playoff teams. First round out.
7) Atlanta Hawks- Again, this is really a best-case scenario, as I'm ranking these under the assumption Horford remains healthy. If he gets hurt again (or traded...) I expect them to drop down, possibly out of the playoffs entirely. With Horford, they will be better than last season, though they still will remain mediocre. I didn't like their draft for them, either.
8) Brooklyn Nets- I definitely foresee a regression from last season. That team is a mess. I will say, as a bit of a sidenote, I think they had a sneakily good draft. They went into the draft with no picks at all, but managed to buy themselves three 2nd rounders. You don't see a lot of value from those picks, typically, but they made some good upside players. Markel Brown was good in college; Cory Jefferson is a good rebounder and is decent at drawing fouls. Obviously, as 2nd round picks they are unlikely to amount to much, but I think they at least made the smart choices at those positions. ANyway ...

9) Detroit- They will be a bad team, but I think I can see Stan Van winning a decent number of games using Drummond as a mini-Dwight.
10) Indiana- The second half of last season, the Pacers fell apart due to on-court issues. I don't expect their locker room to be any more functional this season with an injured Paul George, and Lance Stephenson carving things up in Charlotte. Roy Hibbert, although dominant during some playoff series in recent years, has yet to show us he can put together a consistent season. Maybe he will this year, but I'm not too hopeful. Their off-season was a pretty resounding fart.
11) New York- As my friends over on Poasting&Toasting would say, this Knicks season can most ably be described as, FARTDOG".
12) Boston-- Yeah, we'll be bad this season. I'm hopeful we see some nice development from our young guys, and I expect Rondo (if he stays healthy) will put together a nice stretch of season.
13) Orlando- Weird team. I actually think it's possible for Orlando to be a surprise team in the mold of Phoenix last season. They have some very talented players. I think the odds are against them, but I wouldn't be completely shocked if Oladipo makes a leap and Channing Frye helps glue the offensive together. Think they need a new coach to really improve, though.
14) Milwaukee- I am on the "Jabari is overrated" train. I know a lot of you are high on him, so let's not get into that debate here. I'm not saying Jabari won't have a good NBA career, but that I think his game won't translate immediately, and he will have a rough first couple of seasons before he gets used to the league. The rest of the team sucks, too. A lot.
15) Philadelphia- Yeah.

Re: Eastern Conference Predictions
« Reply #27 on: October 19, 2014, 08:36:22 PM »

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probably, george hurts bad
hibbert steps up? good coaching and larry, west i think quite highly of
like i said the other teams just don't' impress that much
bosh as the dominate player in miami? wade will be hurt, deng is a good pickup but i feel he's a middle of road sf

I dunno, but I'd personally expect a Bosh-led team to be much better than one led by Hibbert or West (at this point in his career).

Re: Eastern Conference Predictions
« Reply #28 on: October 19, 2014, 08:47:42 PM »

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probably, george hurts bad
hibbert steps up? good coaching and larry, west i think quite highly of
like i said the other teams just don't' impress that much
bosh as the dominate player in miami? wade will be hurt, deng is a good pickup but i feel he's a middle of road sf

I dunno, but I'd personally expect a Bosh-led team to be much better than one led by Hibbert or West (at this point in his career).
i see indy more of a rounded team whereas bosh is now alpha dog, wade i'll be in shock if he isn't hurt AND his game has deteriorated
but i don't want to continue arguing indy's point, i was more stating originally that i think toronto has a good team and i think boston, detroit and charlotte could surpass
i do agree with rynye on chicago, if d rose isn't back to his old self they drop

Re: Eastern Conference Predictions
« Reply #29 on: October 19, 2014, 09:02:23 PM »

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I know a lot of people are high on Chicago, but I think people are forgetting last season. Before the season, everyone thought Rose would be back and the Bulls would be dominated. Instead he was hurt again and they languished for the 5th seed. D-Rose has barely played any basketball in two seasons, and he has not yet shown that he can play again. He was terrible on Team USA. Sorry, I can't give the Bulls any faith unless D-Rose can show he can play basketball again. Even if he eventually gets back into form, I highly doubt it will be before the end of the season. I think the most realistic scenario for the Bulls is they limp to a 4) seed, but Rose rounds into form enough at the end of the season to lead them to a strong playoff run.

With that in mind, here are my standings:

EAST:

1) Cleveland- Love is inarguably a better fit for Lebron than Bosh. In Toronto, Bosh was an interior scorer with a nice midrange game. In Miami, he became primarily a shooter, especially from 3-point land, and his numbers went down. Just look at Bosh's shot charts from 2008 vs 2013. Love already gets his numbers playing the role Bosh played in Miami. Sure, they will go down because his usage will go down overall, but I fully expect him to remain an offensive juggernaut. Their defense may be pretty bad overall this season, the East just isn't strong enough for me to doubt they will grab the #1.
2) Toronto- As I explained above, I don't see Chicago being substantially better than last season in terms of their overall record. Toronto was 3) last year and are likely to improve. They have a young, talented roster.
3) Washington Wizards- As with Toronto, they were pretty good last year. I think their record last year was worse than they "deserved" with their talent level; they struggled early in the season but really clicked towards the end. They fell apart against Indiana in the playoffs, but I think with Pierce in the locker-room and a playoff run under their belts, they will finally put together a good season.
4) Chicago Bulls- Already explained.
5) Charlotte Hornets- They were a great defensive team last year, and had a great off-season. I like Noah Vonleh for them. I think Lance Stephenson is going to have a great season. Probably struggle out of the gate, but his per-minute numbers last season were better than Paul George's, and Charlotte is a well-coached team.
6) Miami Heat- I think this is the best case scenario for them. If Wade isn't healthy I expect them to be lower. But I think Wade gives them some good minutes for ~50-60 games this season, and for Bosh to have a mini-comeback season. He's still in his prime, and I think Spoelstra is smart enough to taylor his offense a la his Toronto days. I think Bosh has his best season since Toronto statistically. I expect them to be the type of team that whips all the bad teams in the league but struggles against other playoff teams. First round out.
7) Atlanta Hawks- Again, this is really a best-case scenario, as I'm ranking these under the assumption Horford remains healthy. If he gets hurt again (or traded...) I expect them to drop down, possibly out of the playoffs entirely. With Horford, they will be better than last season, though they still will remain mediocre. I didn't like their draft for them, either.
8) Brooklyn Nets- I definitely foresee a regression from last season. That team is a mess. I will say, as a bit of a sidenote, I think they had a sneakily good draft. They went into the draft with no picks at all, but managed to buy themselves three 2nd rounders. You don't see a lot of value from those picks, typically, but they made some good upside players. Markel Brown was good in college; Cory Jefferson is a good rebounder and is decent at drawing fouls. Obviously, as 2nd round picks they are unlikely to amount to much, but I think they at least made the smart choices at those positions. ANyway ...

9) Detroit- They will be a bad team, but I think I can see Stan Van winning a decent number of games using Drummond as a mini-Dwight.
10) Indiana- The second half of last season, the Pacers fell apart due to on-court issues. I don't expect their locker room to be any more functional this season with an injured Paul George, and Lance Stephenson carving things up in Charlotte. Roy Hibbert, although dominant during some playoff series in recent years, has yet to show us he can put together a consistent season. Maybe he will this year, but I'm not too hopeful. Their off-season was a pretty resounding fart.
11) New York- As my friends over on Poasting&Toasting would say, this Knicks season can most ably be described as, FARTDOG".
12) Boston-- Yeah, we'll be bad this season. I'm hopeful we see some nice development from our young guys, and I expect Rondo (if he stays healthy) will put together a nice stretch of season.
13) Orlando- Weird team. I actually think it's possible for Orlando to be a surprise team in the mold of Phoenix last season. They have some very talented players. I think the odds are against them, but I wouldn't be completely shocked if Oladipo makes a leap and Channing Frye helps glue the offensive together. Think they need a new coach to really improve, though.
14) Milwaukee- I am on the "Jabari is overrated" train. I know a lot of you are high on him, so let's not get into that debate here. I'm not saying Jabari won't have a good NBA career, but that I think his game won't translate immediately, and he will have a rough first couple of seasons before he gets used to the league. The rest of the team sucks, too. A lot.
15) Philadelphia- Yeah.

Its your opinion but how are we going to end up at the same place in standings as last seasons team when this current one is better?   Like much better, especially in bench depth