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Re: Vitor Faverani Goes to Spain for 2nd Opinion, May Need More Surgery
« Reply #15 on: October 13, 2014, 01:13:07 PM »

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If I have orthopedic or other related sports injuries, make millions of dollars a year and I want a second opinion, I'm going to Dr. James Andrew not some doctor in Spain. But that's just me.

I tend to agree, but it's possible that that he's booked up.

Fav's probably still the team's best center, though.
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Re: Vitor Faverani Goes to Spain for 2nd Opinion, May Need More Surgery
« Reply #16 on: October 13, 2014, 01:14:48 PM »

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we only signed Vitor for 2 years correct? so if we cut him, we will minimize our loss for only this season?
I don't think his contract situation is quite clear. I don't think he'll be dead money past this season, though.
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Re: Vitor Faverani Goes to Spain for 2nd Opinion, May Need More Surgery
« Reply #17 on: October 13, 2014, 01:15:29 PM »

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ok, i'm done with the vitor experiment.
This.

Can't see how his attitude (based on interview) regarding both his injury and his arrest have gone over well with Stevens and the Celtics brass. Maybe he can stay in Spain.
And this.

Time to cut bait and give one of the other projects a good hard look.

Was he even arrested? If there is no suspension then I would think the C's found nothing to the claim.

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WALTHAM, Mass. — Multiple news outlets reported back in August that Boston Celtics center Vitor Faverani had been arrested for drunk driving in Valencia, Spain. Faverani, however, said Monday that those reports are untrue. “There’s no truth,” Faverani told reporters at Celtics media day. “Somebody in Spain tried to kill me. but he can’t. So there’s nothing of it. I’m here, you know? Everybody knows in Spain: There’s no truth. So I don’t care about that.” (The Brazilian big man later clarified that he meant someone was trying to smear him in the press.) According to reports, Faverani allegedly was driving with an blood-alcohol level of three times the legal limit when he ran a red light and hit a bus. Faverani acknowledged being involved in a collision but said a broken headline was the only damage sustained. He also denied that alcohol was involved. Celtics president of basketball operations Danny Ainge said last week that the team was contemplating punishment for Faverani, but according to Faverani, he has not been disciplined. “I’m talking a lot with (Celtics director of player personnel Austin Ainge), and he asked me if there’s truth or no. I said no, there’s no truth,” Faverani said. “He talked with my people in Spain, they say it’s not true. … The people high above me believe me, and that’s all.”

Re: Vitor Faverani Goes to Spain for 2nd Opinion, May Need More Surgery
« Reply #18 on: October 13, 2014, 01:22:28 PM »

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Was he even arrested? If there is no suspension then I would think the C's found nothing to the claim.

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WALTHAM, Mass. — Multiple news outlets reported back in August that Boston Celtics center Vitor Faverani had been arrested for drunk driving in Valencia, Spain. Faverani, however, said Monday that those reports are untrue. “There’s no truth,” Faverani told reporters at Celtics media day. “Somebody in Spain tried to kill me. but he can’t. So there’s nothing of it. I’m here, you know? Everybody knows in Spain: There’s no truth. So I don’t care about that.” (The Brazilian big man later clarified that he meant someone was trying to smear him in the press.) According to reports, Faverani allegedly was driving with an blood-alcohol level of three times the legal limit when he ran a red light and hit a bus. Faverani acknowledged being involved in a collision but said a broken headline was the only damage sustained. He also denied that alcohol was involved. Celtics president of basketball operations Danny Ainge said last week that the team was contemplating punishment for Faverani, but according to Faverani, he has not been disciplined. “I’m talking a lot with (Celtics director of player personnel Austin Ainge), and he asked me if there’s truth or no. I said no, there’s no truth,” Faverani said. “He talked with my people in Spain, they say it’s not true. … The people high above me believe me, and that’s all.”
The highlighted part makes perfect sense, right?
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Re: Vitor Faverani Goes to Spain for 2nd Opinion, May Need More Surgery
« Reply #19 on: October 13, 2014, 01:29:24 PM »

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If I have orthopedic or other related sports injuries, make millions of dollars a year and I want a second opinion, I'm going to Dr. James Andrew not some doctor in Spain. But that's just me.
Is it anything specific that makes you skeptical of the entire medical system of Spain?
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Re: Vitor Faverani Goes to Spain for 2nd Opinion, May Need More Surgery
« Reply #20 on: October 13, 2014, 01:50:06 PM »

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Was he even arrested? If there is no suspension then I would think the C's found nothing to the claim.

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WALTHAM, Mass. — Multiple news outlets reported back in August that Boston Celtics center Vitor Faverani had been arrested for drunk driving in Valencia, Spain. Faverani, however, said Monday that those reports are untrue. “There’s no truth,” Faverani told reporters at Celtics media day. “Somebody in Spain tried to kill me. but he can’t. So there’s nothing of it. I’m here, you know? Everybody knows in Spain: There’s no truth. So I don’t care about that.” (The Brazilian big man later clarified that he meant someone was trying to smear him in the press.) According to reports, Faverani allegedly was driving with an blood-alcohol level of three times the legal limit when he ran a red light and hit a bus. Faverani acknowledged being involved in a collision but said a broken headline was the only damage sustained. He also denied that alcohol was involved. Celtics president of basketball operations Danny Ainge said last week that the team was contemplating punishment for Faverani, but according to Faverani, he has not been disciplined. “I’m talking a lot with (Celtics director of player personnel Austin Ainge), and he asked me if there’s truth or no. I said no, there’s no truth,” Faverani said. “He talked with my people in Spain, they say it’s not true. … The people high above me believe me, and that’s all.”
The highlighted part makes perfect sense, right?

Yeah, it does, but things get a little lost in translation. It's a spanish expression, sort of like saying someone's assassinating your reputation.

Re: Vitor Faverani Goes to Spain for 2nd Opinion, May Need More Surgery
« Reply #21 on: October 13, 2014, 01:52:08 PM »

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WALTHAM, Mass. — Multiple news outlets reported back in August that Boston Celtics center Vitor Faverani had been arrested for drunk driving in Valencia, Spain. Faverani, however, said Monday that those reports are untrue. “There’s no truth,” Faverani told reporters at Celtics media day. “Somebody in Spain tried to kill me. but he can’t. So there’s nothing of it. I’m here, you know? Everybody knows in Spain: There’s no truth. So I don’t care about that.” (The Brazilian big man later clarified that he meant someone was trying to smear him in the press.) According to reports, Faverani allegedly was driving with an blood-alcohol level of three times the legal limit when he ran a red light and hit a bus. Faverani acknowledged being involved in a collision but said a broken headline was the only damage sustained. He also denied that alcohol was involved. Celtics president of basketball operations Danny Ainge said last week that the team was contemplating punishment for Faverani, but according to Faverani, he has not been disciplined. “I’m talking a lot with (Celtics director of player personnel Austin Ainge), and he asked me if there’s truth or no. I said no, there’s no truth,” Faverani said. “He talked with my people in Spain, they say it’s not true. … The people high above me believe me, and that’s all.”

Love the journalistic Freudian slip here.


Re: Vitor Faverani Goes to Spain for 2nd Opinion, May Need More Surgery
« Reply #22 on: October 13, 2014, 03:22:24 PM »

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If I have orthopedic or other related sports injuries, make millions of dollars a year and I want a second opinion, I'm going to Dr. James Andrew not some doctor in Spain. But that's just me.

What if the doctor in Spain is someone who has successfully treated you in the past?  Faverani played eight seasons in Spain.  It's shouldn't be surprising if he wanted to talk to a doctor with whom he had a long-standing relationship and a level of personal trust.

Of course, maybe it could be a secret physical to assess whether a Spanish team is willing to sign Fav if he is waived, which could lead to him being willing to accept a buyout.
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Re: Vitor Faverani Goes to Spain for 2nd Opinion, May Need More Surgery
« Reply #23 on: October 13, 2014, 04:45:34 PM »

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If I have orthopedic or other related sports injuries, make millions of dollars a year and I want a second opinion, I'm going to Dr. James Andrew not some doctor in Spain. But that's just me.

What if the doctor in Spain is someone who has successfully treated you in the past?  Faverani played eight seasons in Spain.  It's shouldn't be surprising if he wanted to talk to a doctor with whom he had a long-standing relationship and a level of personal trust.

Of course, maybe it could be a secret physical to assess whether a Spanish team is willing to sign Fav if he is waived, which could lead to him being willing to accept a buyout.

LooseCannon is right:

http://baloncesto.as.com/baloncesto/2014/10/13/nba/1413218484_834746.html

it's in Spanish, but the thing is they are reporting Dr. Francisco Martinez is "de máxima confianza" for Faverani, so he trusts him 100%. Of course, Murcia is not Boston in terms of medical pedigree, but Spain has good medical infrastructure. Also, Celtics sent one of their medical assistants (Jason Rand) to take care of the process, and they also counted on former Vitor's team's trainer. So you can tell Vitor wanted it that way, and Celtics agreed.

Re: Vitor Faverani Goes to Spain for 2nd Opinion, May Need More Surgery
« Reply #24 on: October 13, 2014, 05:39:33 PM »

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Was he even arrested? If there is no suspension then I would think the C's found nothing to the claim.

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WALTHAM, Mass. — Multiple news outlets reported back in August that Boston Celtics center Vitor Faverani had been arrested for drunk driving in Valencia, Spain. Faverani, however, said Monday that those reports are untrue. “There’s no truth,” Faverani told reporters at Celtics media day. “Somebody in Spain tried to kill me. but he can’t. So there’s nothing of it. I’m here, you know? Everybody knows in Spain: There’s no truth. So I don’t care about that.” (The Brazilian big man later clarified that he meant someone was trying to smear him in the press.) According to reports, Faverani allegedly was driving with an blood-alcohol level of three times the legal limit when he ran a red light and hit a bus. Faverani acknowledged being involved in a collision but said a broken headline was the only damage sustained. He also denied that alcohol was involved. Celtics president of basketball operations Danny Ainge said last week that the team was contemplating punishment for Faverani, but according to Faverani, he has not been disciplined. “I’m talking a lot with (Celtics director of player personnel Austin Ainge), and he asked me if there’s truth or no. I said no, there’s no truth,” Faverani said. “He talked with my people in Spain, they say it’s not true. … The people high above me believe me, and that’s all.”
The highlighted part makes perfect sense, right?

Yeah, it does, but things get a little lost in translation. It's a spanish expression, sort of like saying someone's assassinating your reputation.
Fair enough. Perhaps he should pull an Uehara and speak through a translator, though...
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« Reply #25 on: October 13, 2014, 05:45:42 PM »

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Was he even arrested? If there is no suspension then I would think the C's found nothing to the claim.

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WALTHAM, Mass. — Multiple news outlets reported back in August that Boston Celtics center Vitor Faverani had been arrested for drunk driving in Valencia, Spain. Faverani, however, said Monday that those reports are untrue. “There’s no truth,” Faverani told reporters at Celtics media day. “Somebody in Spain tried to kill me. but he can’t. So there’s nothing of it. I’m here, you know? Everybody knows in Spain: There’s no truth. So I don’t care about that.” (The Brazilian big man later clarified that he meant someone was trying to smear him in the press.) According to reports, Faverani allegedly was driving with an blood-alcohol level of three times the legal limit when he ran a red light and hit a bus. Faverani acknowledged being involved in a collision but said a broken headline was the only damage sustained. He also denied that alcohol was involved. Celtics president of basketball operations Danny Ainge said last week that the team was contemplating punishment for Faverani, but according to Faverani, he has not been disciplined. “I’m talking a lot with (Celtics director of player personnel Austin Ainge), and he asked me if there’s truth or no. I said no, there’s no truth,” Faverani said. “He talked with my people in Spain, they say it’s not true. … The people high above me believe me, and that’s all.”
The highlighted part makes perfect sense, right?

Yeah, it does, but things get a little lost in translation. It's a spanish expression, sort of like saying someone's assassinating your reputation.

Fun fact: if you read literally two sentences past the bolded there's an explanation:

Was he even arrested? If there is no suspension then I would think the C's found nothing to the claim.

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WALTHAM, Mass. — Multiple news outlets reported back in August that Boston Celtics center Vitor Faverani had been arrested for drunk driving in Valencia, Spain. Faverani, however, said Monday that those reports are untrue. “There’s no truth,” Faverani told reporters at Celtics media day. “Somebody in Spain tried to kill me. but he can’t. So there’s nothing of it. I’m here, you know? Everybody knows in Spain: There’s no truth. So I don’t care about that.” (The Brazilian big man later clarified that he meant someone was trying to smear him in the press.) According to reports, Faverani allegedly was driving with an blood-alcohol level of three times the legal limit when he ran a red light and hit a bus. Faverani acknowledged being involved in a collision but said a broken headline was the only damage sustained. He also denied that alcohol was involved. Celtics president of basketball operations Danny Ainge said last week that the team was contemplating punishment for Faverani, but according to Faverani, he has not been disciplined. “I’m talking a lot with (Celtics director of player personnel Austin Ainge), and he asked me if there’s truth or no. I said no, there’s no truth,” Faverani said. “He talked with my people in Spain, they say it’s not true. … The people high above me believe me, and that’s all.”
At least a goldfish with a Lincoln Log on its back goin' across your floor to your sock drawer has a miraculous connotation to it.

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If I have orthopedic or other related sports injuries, make millions of dollars a year and I want a second opinion, I'm going to Dr. James Andrew not some doctor in Spain. But that's just me.
Is it anything specific that makes you skeptical of the entire medical system of Spain?
Who said I was skeptical of the Spanish medical system except you. I would just want to go to the best of the best if it was me and Dr Andrews is considered that. If I am a millionaire making my millions off my body, I want the best treating me.

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« Reply #27 on: October 13, 2014, 07:33:12 PM »

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If I have orthopedic or other related sports injuries, make millions of dollars a year and I want a second opinion, I'm going to Dr. James Andrew not some doctor in Spain. But that's just me.
Is it anything specific that makes you skeptical of the entire medical system of Spain?
Who said I was skeptical of the Spanish medical system except you. I would just want to go to the best of the best if it was me and Dr Andrews is considered that. If I am a millionaire making my millions off my body, I want the best treating me.

Well, to be fair the "some doctor in Spain" comment could be misconstrued as such. I'm sure there are exceptional doctors in Europe that are in Andrews' class minus the notoriety.

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If I have orthopedic or other related sports injuries, make millions of dollars a year and I want a second opinion, I'm going to Dr. James Andrew not some doctor in Spain. But that's just me.
Is it anything specific that makes you skeptical of the entire medical system of Spain?
Who said I was skeptical of the Spanish medical system except you. I would just want to go to the best of the best if it was me and Dr Andrews is considered that. If I am a millionaire making my millions off my body, I want the best treating me.

Well, to be fair the "some doctor in Spain" comment could be misconstrued as such. I'm sure there are exceptional doctors in Europe that are in Andrews' class minus the notoriety.
Well if you guys want to interpret what I said that way, go ahead.

In the mean time I apologize to every doctor in Spain for somehow denigrating them by suggesting I would prefer going to a world renown sports orthopedic over them. No offense meant

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If I have orthopedic or other related sports injuries, make millions of dollars a year and I want a second opinion, I'm going to Dr. James Andrew not some doctor in Spain. But that's just me.
Is it anything specific that makes you skeptical of the entire medical system of Spain?
Who said I was skeptical of the Spanish medical system except you. I would just want to go to the best of the best if it was me and Dr Andrews is considered that. If I am a millionaire making my millions off my body, I want the best treating me.
Is it anything specific that makes you skeptical that no one in spain's medical system could rival dr. andrews?  ;D
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