I know what everyone is thinking!!!

[Ogaju]

Our team is going to get owned nightly once the regular season starts.   Pretty terrible collection of talent.  30 wins would be overachieving.

How are the Celtics talent "terrible"?

You will take a loss all year long as long as we go 50% from 3 point range, and score 35-37 points in two out of four quarters??

This guy has always got something bad to say, never anything positive.  starting to make me sick.  you will notice there is one cliché on this board that deliberately goads anything you think is good!!!

The team will be fun to watch, but this is clearly a terrible collection of talent.  I'm excited to see if some of these guys break out, but expecting 30 wins is a stretch this year.  Awful bunch.

Can't see where you think this is a terrible collection of talent.  to me they look a lot improved from last year. take tonight's game at Toronto. even though we lost we stuck 109 points on the board. 50% 3 pointers (14-28) against a team that is expected to win the Atlantic Division. scored 35 in the second quarter and 37 in the third. I'll take that all year long!!!

[bleedGREENdon]

Our team is going to get owned nightly once the regular season starts.   Pretty terrible collection of talent.  30 wins would be overachieving.

How are the Celtics talent "terrible"?

You will take a loss all year long as long as we go 50% from 3 point range, and score 35-37 points in two out of four quarters??

This guy has always got something bad to say, never anything positive.  starting to make me sick.  you will notice there is one cliché on this board that deliberately goads anything you think is good!!!

The team will be fun to watch, but this is clearly a terrible collection of talent.  I'm excited to see if some of these guys break out, but expecting 30 wins is a stretch this year.  Awful bunch.

Can't see where you think this is a terrible collection of talent.  to me they look a lot improved from last year. take tonight's game at Toronto. even though we lost we stuck 109 points on the board. 50% 3 pointers (14-28) against a team that is expected to win the Atlantic Division. scored 35 in the second quarter and 37 in the third. I'll take that all year long!!!

Mind you our two best players arent playing.

[GreenWarrior]

Exactly my feelings.
The point is not to have a team that might make the playoffs this year.
The point is to be again a contender in 4-5 years.
This is what makes rebuilding so painful, but this is what it is.
Getting in the playoffs per se is irrelevant to the larger scheme of things.
Sure, we ll get a few more hours of televised fun but that's it.
Anything that does not contribute to developing talent and building team character is besides the point for the next couple of years.

But if they make the playoffs then it's most likely a testament to the developing of talent and team character. You have to make the playoffs if you want to contend and if these young guys help contribute to a Celtic playoff push this year then isn't that making progress?

again, if the playoffs happen because olynyk, Sully and Smart magically become 20-10 guys(or something like that) then great! that's progress.

but if Green, Rondo, Wallace and Bass are getting the mins.? these kids could have all the character in the world and it won't make their team be any better.

I hate to break it to C's fans but there is no Pierce on this team right now. we have some nice players but that 's about it. no superstar though. and how did we get Pierce? by being bad.

this league is very simple. you have the stars - you win.

now, i'm not one for tanking. tanking would imply trying to lose games on purpose. that's not what i'm saying. i'm saying, if these young guys of ours are so good? then hand the reigns over to them. if we win, then the future is bright. if we lose, then we know these guys need a star and they may get it with the lousy record they had.

i'd rather see a young team lose than a bunch of mediocre veterans make an 8 seed and get bounced.

So you want Rondo to play bad then?

I re-read what I said a couple times now and I never said I want Rondo or anyone on the team for that matter to play bad....or never even implied that either.

[GreenWarrior]

I hate to break it to C's fans but there is no Pierce on this team right now. we have some nice players but that 's about it. no superstar though. and how did we get Pierce? by being bad.

What about Rondo?

I reckon he's as well though of now, as Pierce was pre-finalsmvp on those bad celtic teams.

if you believe Rondo is on the same level as Pierce I fear for where this conversation will go.

[twistedrico]

I agree with the original post and refuse to read the thread because of fear of negativity. This is a good young team and I also think they will surprise some people and wouldn't be shocked if they make the playoffs.  I also think that Rondo and Turner together on the court are going to make a lot of other players look good. Both see the court really well and are great passers.   Turner was a great pickup by Danny.