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Re: Is there some way we can keep Powell?
« Reply #60 on: October 10, 2014, 03:42:32 AM »

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Seems like there's a tough cut every season, and often it has as much to do with the contract ahead of them as much as the player ahead of them.  In the end, it rarely involves a player with much chance of making a 9-player rotation.

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Re: Is there some way we can keep Powell?
« Reply #61 on: October 10, 2014, 06:11:40 AM »

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powell is perfect in boston -stanford and applied to harvard-he will love this town-maybe the magic of celtics banners will inspire and toughen him up-he looks like basketball players used to before everybody bulked up--

Re: Is there some way we can keep Powell?
« Reply #62 on: October 11, 2014, 10:18:56 AM »

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Excellent...You are a true Celtic fan!  TP for you. 

You've motivated me.  From now on the more  trivial the topic or player, the more I will respond.  Nothing more pleasing than ticking off these elitist-posters by filling page after page with responses regarding D-league potential players.  : )

Why are there four pages on Powell?  I think it may be his quirkiness.

He's long with arms and legs extending beyond most players.  This helps make him an annoyance on defense. (I didn't say great defender.) He tends to poke his hands near the ball and seems to have a knack for deflecting passes, or keeping a ball in play for someone else on the team to grab a rebound or make a steal. He's also a threat on offense having an instinct to go to the hoop if given the opportunity.  Or, to take the jump shot if open. 

Faverani may be a better rebounder, passer, player, etc. However, he generally doesn't disrupt the defense the way Powell does.  (Plus, he's always injured.) So, given Powell's knack for being a nuisance and having a decent jump shot, I propose we spend another 5 pages discussing a way to keep him on the roster.
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Re: If discussing the roster of your favourite team...
« Reply #63 on: October 11, 2014, 10:47:05 AM »

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... to the greatest possible detail is not important, what is? Sex, money and a good job, I hear you say...
No my friend, we are going to be examining the advantages of Powell over Anthony to the most excruciating detail because we are Celtics fans, and besides playing basketball and drinking beer, watching the C's is the only thing that really matters in this universe.


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« Reply #64 on: October 11, 2014, 01:32:19 PM »

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This is one of the best posts I've ever seen on Celticsblog.
I am honestly flattered.
IMHO this year's C's will give us plenty of opportunities for Al Bundy moments. The only thing that helps me recover after watching Zeller 'protecting the rim' is a bottle of beer...

Re: Is there some way we can keep Powell?
« Reply #65 on: October 11, 2014, 02:10:04 PM »

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In last nights situation vs the longer and more athletic front court raptors , Stevens needed to play Powell (or needs to play him when W-L starts to count).

Our front court unit did a decent job in the offensive end, but couldn't stop the raps front court from scoring, getting offensive rebounds, slow down in PNR.

Not saying Powell would of been the answer but he would of neutralized some of the things the raps bigs were doing and also make it harder for guys like Lowry, Derozan to get in their acrobatic layups.

I would really like to see Powell stay with the lineup, and get some playing min on a consistent basis and have Wallace, Fav, Bass (one or all leave).

Re: Is there some way we can keep Powell?
« Reply #66 on: October 11, 2014, 02:30:56 PM »

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In last nights situation vs the longer and more athletic front court raptors , Stevens needed to play Powell (or needs to play him when W-L starts to count).

Our front court unit did a decent job in the offensive end, but couldn't stop the raps front court from scoring, getting offensive rebounds, slow down in PNR.

Not saying Powell would of been the answer but he would of neutralized some of the things the raps bigs were doing and also make it harder for guys like Lowry, Derozan to get in their acrobatic layups.

I would really like to see Powell stay with the lineup, and get some playing min on a consistent basis and have Wallace, Fav, Bass (one or all leave).

Exactly what I was thinking. Zeller and Powell did a pretty good job of rim protection when they played together the other night.

Re: Is there some way we can keep Powell?
« Reply #67 on: October 11, 2014, 03:11:08 PM »

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I'd say there's a decent chance that he gets some significant minutes tonight.  Stevens mentioned after the game that he'd be resting some people with the games piling up.

Re: Is there some way we can keep Powell?
« Reply #68 on: October 11, 2014, 03:14:26 PM »

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In last nights situation vs the longer and more athletic front court raptors , Stevens needed to play Powell (or needs to play him when W-L starts to count).

Our front court unit did a decent job in the offensive end, but couldn't stop the raps front court from scoring, getting offensive rebounds, slow down in PNR.

Not saying Powell would of been the answer but he would of neutralized some of the things the raps bigs were doing and also make it harder for guys like Lowry, Derozan to get in their acrobatic layups.

I would really like to see Powell stay with the lineup, and get some playing min on a consistent basis and have Wallace, Fav, Bass (one or all leave).

Exactly what I was thinking. Zeller and Powell did a pretty good job of rim protection when they played together the other night.

Yup. But stevens kept putting out KO, sully and bass.

Again the offense was not the issue, it was the defense. Against some  teams KO and Sully will just outsmart thwir opponents. But last night val , patterson and johnson were beating us to on the inside. They got like all the looseballs, tip ins etc.

I agree that powell and zeller front court could serve us well vs a team like the raps. Vs okc, drummond , dhoward etc

Re: Is there some way we can keep Powell?
« Reply #69 on: October 11, 2014, 03:47:48 PM »

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In last nights situation vs the longer and more athletic front court raptors , Stevens needed to play Powell (or needs to play him when W-L starts to count).

Our front court unit did a decent job in the offensive end, but couldn't stop the raps front court from scoring, getting offensive rebounds, slow down in PNR.

Not saying Powell would of been the answer but he would of neutralized some of the things the raps bigs were doing and also make it harder for guys like Lowry, Derozan to get in their acrobatic layups.

I would really like to see Powell stay with the lineup, and get some playing min on a consistent basis and have Wallace, Fav, Bass (one or all leave).

Exactly what I was thinking. Zeller and Powell did a pretty good job of rim protection when they played together the other night.

Yup. But stevens kept putting out KO, sully and bass.

Again the offense was not the issue, it was the defense. Against some  teams KO and Sully will just outsmart thwir opponents. But last night val , patterson and johnson were beating us to on the inside. They got like all the looseballs, tip ins etc.

I agree that powell and zeller front court could serve us well vs a team like the raps. Vs okc, drummond , dhoward etc

Does Stevens ever tell his players to block out on rebounds?

I did not see us block out once last night.

Re: Is there some way we can keep Powell?
« Reply #70 on: October 11, 2014, 03:55:50 PM »

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Powell is from Toronto and he did not play. Thought Steven's had more class than that. Wallace also played 17 min. and was not helping the Defense. Wallace is active, but Powell seems to be much more purposeful in his defensive presence. That and his quickness give him a clear advantage over Crash at this point.

Really beginning to feel that the Sully / Olynyk pairing needs to be reevaluated. When paired with Turner we lacked size and with Wallace we lacked speed. We were able to neutralize Valancunus which is significant; but once Amir Johnson and Patterson came in, Steven's did not try and match their athleticism by bringing in Powell. I really think there is a role for this kid in exactly those situations. Paterson was killing us from outside and Johnson from inside and he is only 6'-9" so clearly there is a role for someone with speed and athleticism on this team. Bass can defend; but Powell has the size. Zeller and Powell = speed and size. Sully and Powell needs to be explored. Then we can use Zeller and Olynyk. In short Powell makes Wallace redundant. If he can prove he has a consistent mid-range game (which he had at Stanford), he should be able to compete with Bass for minutes.

Re: Is there some way we can keep Powell?
« Reply #71 on: October 11, 2014, 04:35:33 PM »

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In short Powell makes Wallace redundant.
The only reason Wallace keeps playing is that playing (no matter how badly) makes his outrageous contract look a bit less outrageous. Just imagine paying someone, anyone 10m a year to stay at home and do nothing...

Re: Is there some way we can keep Powell?
« Reply #72 on: October 11, 2014, 05:13:48 PM »

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In last nights situation vs the longer and more athletic front court raptors , Stevens needed to play Powell (or needs to play him when W-L starts to count).

Our front court unit did a decent job in the offensive end, but couldn't stop the raps front court from scoring, getting offensive rebounds, slow down in PNR.

Not saying Powell would of been the answer but he would of neutralized some of the things the raps bigs were doing and also make it harder for guys like Lowry, Derozan to get in their acrobatic layups.

I would really like to see Powell stay with the lineup, and get some playing min on a consistent basis and have Wallace, Fav, Bass (one or all leave).

Exactly what I was thinking. Zeller and Powell did a pretty good job of rim protection when they played together the other night.
Smart didout he pg. but your basic point stands on boxing out. The celtics did a poor job.

Yup. But stevens kept putting out KO, sully and bass.

Again the offense was not the issue, it was the defense. Against some  teams KO and Sully will just outsmart thwir opponents. But last night val , patterson and johnson were beating us to on the inside. They got like all the looseballs, tip ins etc.

I agree that powell and zeller front court could serve us well vs a team like the raps. Vs okc, drummond , dhoward etc

Does Stevens ever tell his players to block out on rebounds?

I did not see us block out once last night.
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Re: Is there some way we can keep Powell?
« Reply #73 on: October 11, 2014, 05:16:48 PM »

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Powell is from Toronto and he did not play. Thought Steven's had more class than that. Wallace also played 17 min. and was not helping the Defense. Wallace is active, but Powell seems to be much more purposeful in his defensive presence. That and his quickness give him a clear advantage over Crash at this point.

Really beginning to feel that the Sully / Olynyk pairing needs to be reevaluated. When paired with Turner we lacked size and with Wallace we lacked speed. We were able to neutralize Valancunus which is significant; but once Amir Johnson and Patterson came in, Steven's did not try and match their athleticism by bringing in Powell. I really think there is a role for this kid in exactly those situations. Paterson was killing us from outside and Johnson from inside and he is only 6'-9" so clearly there is a role for someone with speed and athleticism on this team. Bass can defend; but Powell has the size. Zeller and Powell = speed and size. Sully and Powell needs to be explored. Then we can use Zeller and Olynyk. In short Powell makes Wallace redundant. If he can prove he has a consistent mid-range game (which he had at Stanford), he should be able to compete with Bass for minutes.

+1. 

We need to see more of Powell though.   But man he looks promising.  The scouts compare him to a player somewhere in between Mason Plumlee and Aaron Gordon (less skilled, but also a better shooting version than both).   

Hopefully he will get some min tonight

Re: Is there some way we can keep Powell?
« Reply #74 on: October 11, 2014, 05:29:48 PM »

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In last nights situation vs the longer and more athletic front court raptors , Stevens needed to play Powell (or needs to play him when W-L starts to count).

Our front court unit did a decent job in the offensive end, but couldn't stop the raps front court from scoring, getting offensive rebounds, slow down in PNR.

Not saying Powell would of been the answer but he would of neutralized some of the things the raps bigs were doing and also make it harder for guys like Lowry, Derozan to get in their acrobatic layups.

I would really like to see Powell stay with the lineup, and get some playing min on a consistent basis and have Wallace, Fav, Bass (one or all leave).

Exactly what I was thinking. Zeller and Powell did a pretty good job of rim protection when they played together the other night.
Smart didout he pg. but your basic point stands on boxing out. The celtics did a poor job.

Yup. But stevens kept putting out KO, sully and bass.

Again the offense was not the issue, it was the defense. Against some  teams KO and Sully will just outsmart thwir opponents. But last night val , patterson and johnson were beating us to on the inside. They got like all the looseballs, tip ins etc.

I agree that powell and zeller front court could serve us well vs a team like the raps. Vs okc, drummond , dhoward etc

Does Stevens ever tell his players to block out on rebounds?

I did not see us block out once last night.

Reminds me of Gordon.