cavs

[Ogaju]

I am not sure about Diehard. Your first post on Celticsblog and you post about Cavs?

Hmmmmmmmmmmm. Please show us your Celtics bonafides. LOL

If you are a Celtic I will give you a TP to welcome you.

[Donoghus]

I think a healthy Chicago squad can take down the Cavs in the east this year.  If they're not healthy, it's Cleveland's to lose.

I think Year 2 is when the Cavs really start putting it together.

I think you just hate Lebron James. There is no way I pick Chicago over Cavs. Gasol is a good player, but nowhere near prime Gasol at Lakers 2009-10. It was evident last year and the FIBA tournament. He can't even will Spain to the semifinals at home. Lebron can shut down Rose if needed and they heve Marion for the job too. He held in check Tony Parker too last year in the first round. Cavs are stacked.

I'm glad we think we can see inside other posters' heads. 

Actually, if you go through my post history, you'd see I've been more kind to Lebron than many others on this board.  I'm sure many would vouch for me on that also. 

Might want to do some research before tossing out an ignorant comment like that.

I don't think I said any inappropiate thing. I said you probably hate Lebron James. Looks like you not. Should I read all your post before I comment? I don't think so. (You have a million post anyway ) I did not intend to hurt you. Maybe I should have written: "You're seriously underrating Lebron and the Cavs." Any thoughts what I wrote in my earlier post other than "You can't see in my head" which I agree.

Then why even make the comment in the first place if you don't have a clue about what you're talking about? Just makes you look foolish.

And I've participated in discussions over the past few months where I've outlined why I thought Chicago had a good chance to come out of the east and the conference wasn't going to just be some walkover for Lebron & the Cavs.

[wdleehi]

I think a healthy Chicago squad can take down the Cavs in the east this year.  If they're not healthy, it's Cleveland's to lose.

I think Year 2 is when the Cavs really start putting it together.

I think you just hate Lebron James. There is no way I pick Chicago over Cavs. Gasol is a good player, but nowhere near prime Gasol at Lakers 2009-10. It was evident last year and the FIBA tournament. He can't even will Spain to the semifinals at home. Lebron can shut down Rose if needed and they heve Marion for the job too. He held in check Tony Parker too last year in the first round. Cavs are stacked.

I'm glad we think we can see inside other posters' heads. 

Actually, if you go through my post history, you'd see I've been more kind to Lebron than many others on this board.  I'm sure many would vouch for me on that also. 

Might want to do some research before tossing out an ignorant comment like that.

I don't think I said any inappropiate thing. I said you probably hate Lebron James. Looks like you not. Should I read all your post before I comment? I don't think so. (You have a million post anyway ) I did not intend to hurt you. Maybe I should have written: "You're seriously underrating Lebron and the Cavs." Any thoughts what I wrote in my earlier post other than "You can't see in my head" which I agree.

Labeling posters "haters" is against site rules because it never leads to useful or constructive conversation. 


Talk about the topic, not the poster who has the opinion. 

[Moranis]

According to alot of websites that deal with NBA talk they are ranking cavs to win. I was looking at the depth chart to judge for myself. There bench is disgusting. I was looking at golden state and there bench and there 2nd string is better then some starting line ups. I just dont see lebron bringing a team to the finals and winning out of 7 games. kevin love, irving and waiters havent had deep playoff experience. Im just not convinced.

Benches don't matter in the playoffs.  You win and lose by your starting lineup + 3 subs.  8 man rotation is all you need.  The Cavs have one of the best 8 man rotations in basketball including the best player in the world.  Benches are nice for the regular season where you play more guys, gets guys rest, etc. 

Deep playoff experience doesn't mean much either, especially when your leader is a 4 time MVP with 5 trips to the NBA Finals in his career.  That said Marion, Varejao, Haywood, and Miller all have deep playoff runs (3 of them even have at least 1 title).  They still may yet add Ray Allen.  The Cavs have the perfect mix of veterans and young guys. 

They are the clear team to beat in the East.  I do think they may struggle with the team from the West, but if you are putting out odds to win, Cleveland should clearly be the favorite since they really do have limited competition in the East.  Out West I think you could legitimately argue that any of 8 teams could realistically make the Finals if everything goes right for them (SA, OK, LAC, HOU, GS, POR, MEM, DAL), the East I think you are looking at 2 (I just don't see Washington, Brooklyn, etc. having a realistic shot of getting by Chicago and Cleveland without injuries).

[Endless Paradise]

Deep playoff experience doesn't mean much either, especially when your leader is a 4 time MVP with 5 trips to the NBA Finals in his career.  That said Marion, Varejao, Haywood, and Miller all have deep playoff runs (3 of them even have at least 1 title).  They still may yet add Ray Allen.  The Cavs have the perfect mix of veterans and young guys. 

LeBron's resume didn't matter much for the Heat last year, so that's not really a good argument in favor of why the Cavs don't need playoff experience.  Like I said, LeBron can't do it all by himself.

That said, name the last team to win the title with 4/5ths of the starting lineup making their first playoff appearances.  Remember: the starters are likely to play the most minutes, so while it's useful that members of the bench have playoff experience, those guys aren't the ones who'll be on the court most of the time.

[D.o.s.]

(I still think the Bulls are better, too).

[Donoghus]

(I still think the Bulls are better, too).

Then you must hate Lebron too.

[Moranis]

Deep playoff experience doesn't mean much either, especially when your leader is a 4 time MVP with 5 trips to the NBA Finals in his career.  That said Marion, Varejao, Haywood, and Miller all have deep playoff runs (3 of them even have at least 1 title).  They still may yet add Ray Allen.  The Cavs have the perfect mix of veterans and young guys. 

LeBron's resume didn't matter much for the Heat last year, so that's not really a good argument in favor of why the Cavs don't need playoff experience.  Like I said, LeBron can't do it all by himself.

That said, name the last team to win the title with 4/5ths of the starting lineup making their first playoff appearances.  Remember: the starters are likely to play the most minutes, so while it's useful that members of the bench have playoff experience, those guys aren't the ones who'll be on the court most of the time.

Varejao is the starting center.  He has plenty of deep playoff experience.

[Diehard2001]

Deep playoff experience doesn't mean much either, especially when your leader is a 4 time MVP with 5 trips to the NBA Finals in his career.  That said Marion, Varejao, Haywood, and Miller all have deep playoff runs (3 of them even have at least 1 title).  They still may yet add Ray Allen.  The Cavs have the perfect mix of veterans and young guys. 

LeBron's resume didn't matter much for the Heat last year, so that's not really a good argument in favor of why the Cavs don't need playoff experience.  Like I said, LeBron can't do it all by himself.

That said, name the last team to win the title with 4/5ths of the starting lineup making their first playoff appearances.  Remember: the starters are likely to play the most minutes, so while it's useful that members of the bench have playoff experience, those guys aren't the ones who'll be on the court most of the time.

Varejao is the starting center.  He has plenty of deep playoff experience.

when was his last playoff game? a few years back. There are new players in the east who are going to box him out and out play him. I hope they do well because i like when lebron looses. you get to see him start to realize you aint jordan bro your going to have a kobe legacy,

[Endless Paradise]

Deep playoff experience doesn't mean much either, especially when your leader is a 4 time MVP with 5 trips to the NBA Finals in his career.  That said Marion, Varejao, Haywood, and Miller all have deep playoff runs (3 of them even have at least 1 title).  They still may yet add Ray Allen.  The Cavs have the perfect mix of veterans and young guys. 

LeBron's resume didn't matter much for the Heat last year, so that's not really a good argument in favor of why the Cavs don't need playoff experience.  Like I said, LeBron can't do it all by himself.

That said, name the last team to win the title with 4/5ths of the starting lineup making their first playoff appearances.  Remember: the starters are likely to play the most minutes, so while it's useful that members of the bench have playoff experience, those guys aren't the ones who'll be on the court most of the time.

Varejao is the starting center.  He has plenty of deep playoff experience.

The coach has yet to decide on a starting center, but all indications are that he's leaning towards Thompson to preserve Varejao's health.

[Moranis]

Deep playoff experience doesn't mean much either, especially when your leader is a 4 time MVP with 5 trips to the NBA Finals in his career.  That said Marion, Varejao, Haywood, and Miller all have deep playoff runs (3 of them even have at least 1 title).  They still may yet add Ray Allen.  The Cavs have the perfect mix of veterans and young guys. 

LeBron's resume didn't matter much for the Heat last year, so that's not really a good argument in favor of why the Cavs don't need playoff experience.  Like I said, LeBron can't do it all by himself.

That said, name the last team to win the title with 4/5ths of the starting lineup making their first playoff appearances.  Remember: the starters are likely to play the most minutes, so while it's useful that members of the bench have playoff experience, those guys aren't the ones who'll be on the court most of the time.

Varejao is the starting center.  He has plenty of deep playoff experience.

The coach has yet to decide on a starting center, but all indications are that he's leaning towards Thompson to preserve Varejao's health.

makes sense for regular season, but Thompson won't be the starting center in the playoffs that will be Varejao.  I also wouldn't be surprised if Miller or Allen (if he signs there) ends up in the starting lineup with Waiters coming off the bench to provide energy and scoring to that unit. 

Experience doesn't make much difference though anyway.  Magic and Cooper won a title in their first playoffs (and Magic was a rookie).  The Dream Rockets had 3 starters with 16 or less career playoff games and the 6th man Cassell was a rookie.  The 02/03 Spurs, Manu was a rookie, Stephen Jackson was in his 1st playoffs, and Parker was in his 2nd year (Speedy Claxton was also in the rotation and had played a grand total of 49 playoff minutes before that year). 

[ScoobyDoo]

my optimism may seem ridiculous. should i rather say 'i think we're capable of losing every game in resounding fashion?

look, this team should have the mindset that they can win every time they step on the court, regardless of what team is coming out of the other locker room. if they don't, they might as well not even dress.

think like a winner - this team can't afford to walk around with their heads in the sand.

if rondo returns to form, he'sgoing to make a lot of these guys like turner, green, young, olynyk and sullinger very good.

unless the tank job is on again, i expect us to be in the playoffs.

save the post as suggested, let's rehash it towards season's end

[Endless Paradise]

Deep playoff experience doesn't mean much either, especially when your leader is a 4 time MVP with 5 trips to the NBA Finals in his career.  That said Marion, Varejao, Haywood, and Miller all have deep playoff runs (3 of them even have at least 1 title).  They still may yet add Ray Allen.  The Cavs have the perfect mix of veterans and young guys. 

LeBron's resume didn't matter much for the Heat last year, so that's not really a good argument in favor of why the Cavs don't need playoff experience.  Like I said, LeBron can't do it all by himself.

That said, name the last team to win the title with 4/5ths of the starting lineup making their first playoff appearances.  Remember: the starters are likely to play the most minutes, so while it's useful that members of the bench have playoff experience, those guys aren't the ones who'll be on the court most of the time.

Varejao is the starting center.  He has plenty of deep playoff experience.

The coach has yet to decide on a starting center, but all indications are that he's leaning towards Thompson to preserve Varejao's health.

makes sense for regular season, but Thompson won't be the starting center in the playoffs that will be Varejao.  I also wouldn't be surprised if Miller or Allen (if he signs there) ends up in the starting lineup with Waiters coming off the bench to provide energy and scoring to that unit. 

Experience doesn't make much difference though anyway.  Magic and Cooper won a title in their first playoffs (and Magic was a rookie).  The Dream Rockets had 3 starters with 16 or less career playoff games and the 6th man Cassell was a rookie.  The 02/03 Spurs, Manu was a rookie, Stephen Jackson was in his 1st playoffs, and Parker was in his 2nd year (Speedy Claxton was also in the rotation and had played a grand total of 49 playoff minutes before that year).

None of those teams you mentioned had the majority of their top five players without any prior playoff experience.  Of course there are guys who've managed to win a title on their first times in the playoffs, but you've never once seen a team prominently fielding a bunch of playoff newbies accomplish that.

Also, I have to question where you're getting your intel from that Varejao will be the starting center for the playoffs.  You generally don't see teams switch up their starting rotations for the playoffs.  That screws with chemistry and if that lineup has managed to get you this far, why needlessly mess with a good thing?  At that point, you only tend to see lineup changes as adjustments to poor play in earlier games.

All we know so far is that Blatt hasn't decided between Thompson and Varejao, but he's placed Thompson with the starters in scrimmages and he went with Thompson for the first preseason game.

[puskas54_10]

I think a healthy Chicago squad can take down the Cavs in the east this year.  If they're not healthy, it's Cleveland's to lose.

I think Year 2 is when the Cavs really start putting it together.

I think you just hate Lebron James. There is no way I pick Chicago over Cavs. Gasol is a good player, but nowhere near prime Gasol at Lakers 2009-10. It was evident last year and the FIBA tournament. He can't even will Spain to the semifinals at home. Lebron can shut down Rose if needed and they heve Marion for the job too. He held in check Tony Parker too last year in the first round. Cavs are stacked.

I'm glad we think we can see inside other posters' heads. 

Actually, if you go through my post history, you'd see I've been more kind to Lebron than many others on this board.  I'm sure many would vouch for me on that also. 

Might want to do some research before tossing out an ignorant comment like that.

I don't think I said any inappropiate thing. I said you probably hate Lebron James. Looks like you not. Should I read all your post before I comment? I don't think so. (You have a million post anyway ) I did not intend to hurt you. Maybe I should have written: "You're seriously underrating Lebron and the Cavs." Any thoughts what I wrote in my earlier post other than "You can't see in my head" which I agree.

Then why even make the comment in the first place if you don't have a clue about what you're talking about? Just makes you look foolish.

And I've participated in discussions over the past few months where I've outlined why I thought Chicago had a good chance to come out of the east and the conference wasn't going to just be some walkover for Lebron & the Cavs.

Okay, looks like you're a bit cranky and ignorant, like "I said it earlier". You don't even bother to talk about basketball, but your feelings. I'm so sorry not to follow your discussion history and just try to to talk basketball right now. Looks like you're on a high horse. Sorry to bother you sir.

[puskas54_10]

I think a healthy Chicago squad can take down the Cavs in the east this year.  If they're not healthy, it's Cleveland's to lose.

I think Year 2 is when the Cavs really start putting it together.

I think you just hate Lebron James. There is no way I pick Chicago over Cavs. Gasol is a good player, but nowhere near prime Gasol at Lakers 2009-10. It was evident last year and the FIBA tournament. He can't even will Spain to the semifinals at home. Lebron can shut down Rose if needed and they heve Marion for the job too. He held in check Tony Parker too last year in the first round. Cavs are stacked.

I'm glad we think we can see inside other posters' heads. 

Actually, if you go through my post history, you'd see I've been more kind to Lebron than many others on this board.  I'm sure many would vouch for me on that also. 

Might want to do some research before tossing out an ignorant comment like that.

I don't think I said any inappropiate thing. I said you probably hate Lebron James. Looks like you not. Should I read all your post before I comment? I don't think so. (You have a million post anyway ) I did not intend to hurt you. Maybe I should have written: "You're seriously underrating Lebron and the Cavs." Any thoughts what I wrote in my earlier post other than "You can't see in my head" which I agree.

Labeling posters "haters" is against site rules because it never leads to useful or constructive conversation. 


Talk about the topic, not the poster who has the opinion.

Generally I agree in the case of celtics players, coaches, personnnel, but calling somebody a Lebron hater on celticsblog is nothing special, because in most cases that's the truth (understandably).
What about calling others ignorant and fool, and so on? It's ok?