Cavs already trade Bogans to Philly

[gpap]

http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/235025/Cavaliers-Trade-Keith-Bogans-To-76ers

Bringing his long and illustrious career with Cleveland to an end.

[Kane3387]

So much for the packaging of all the non guaranteed contracts.

Don't understand that.

[Boris Badenov]

Keith Bogans' contract has created a rift in the NBA salary cap continuum. By this time next week he will have been traded an infinite number of times between every team in the league, and every team will have an infinite trade exception.

[arctic 3.0]

Bogland gets traded to celtics, says "nooo!"
Gets traded to cavs, says "yes!"
Then to philly, says "nooooooooooo!"

[Tr1boy]

http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/11598637/keith-bogans-traded-cleveland-cavaliers-philadelphia-76ers

I thought the Cavs wanted Bogans to combine with Hayward's non guarantee to trade for a player for next season.  Now they make this move?

Did we get a better return from the Cavs or Cavs did from the 76ers for Bogans?

[Nerf DPOY]

http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/11598637/keith-bogans-traded-cleveland-cavaliers-philadelphia-76ers

I thought the Cavs wanted Bogans to combine with Hayward's non guarantee to trade for a player for next season.  Now they make this move?

Did we get a better return from the Cavs or Cavs did from the 76ers for Bogans?

It sounds like we got a better return, though it's irrelevant because both teams are in different situations and have different objectives.

The Cavs gave yet another future 2nd, while getting a conditional one back. Their objective though was to stay out of the luxury tax at the end of the season, while gaining a trade exception.

[Jiri Welsch]

I think the Celtics did. They got a lotto ticket 2nd round pick from this year and a future second round pick.

Plus, the protected 2nd rounder from Philly might have ridiculous protections. Especially considering we (Boston) is due to get that 2015 pick if PHI doesn't make the playoffs this year.

[317]

Bogland gets traded to celtics, says "nooo!"
Gets traded to cavs, says "yes!"
Then to philly, says "nooooooooooo!"

i think this works for him actually. Philly i think might be under the salary floor even with Bogans and are almost defiantly under without him. so the odds of them keeping him on the roster and him getting paid are very good.

[kozlodoev]

Bogland gets traded to celtics, says "nooo!"
Gets traded to cavs, says "yes!"
Then to philly, says "nooooooooooo!"

i think this works for him actually. Philly i think might be under the salary floor even with Bogans and are almost defiantly under without him. so the odds of them keeping him on the roster and him getting paid are very good.

There is no practical difference between being under the floor, and going over the floor by signing a player that is not good enough to get off your pine.

[MBunge]

Bogland gets traded to celtics, says "nooo!"
Gets traded to cavs, says "yes!"
Then to philly, says "nooooooooooo!"

i think this works for him actually. Philly i think might be under the salary floor even with Bogans and are almost defiantly under without him. so the odds of them keeping him on the roster and him getting paid are very good.

There is no practical difference between being under the floor, and going over the floor by signing a player that is not good enough to get off your pine.

Bogans is definitely good enough to play for Philly, though.  Most of the posters here could probably get 5 to 8 minutes a game for the Sixers this coming season.

Mike

[Tr1boy]

http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/11598637/keith-bogans-traded-cleveland-cavaliers-philadelphia-76ers

I thought the Cavs wanted Bogans to combine with Hayward's non guarantee to trade for a player for next season.  Now they make this move?

Did we get a better return from the Cavs or Cavs did from the 76ers for Bogans?

It sounds like we got a better return, though it's irrelevant because both teams are in different situations and have different objectives.

The Cavs gave yet another future 2nd, while getting a conditional one back. Their objective though was to stay out of the luxury tax at the end of the season, while gaining a trade exception.

why don't the cavs just keep Bogans?

There seems to be alot of loopholes in the nba trading system. No other major league sports has these kind of "loopholes"

[Jiri Welsch]

http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/11598637/keith-bogans-traded-cleveland-cavaliers-philadelphia-76ers

I thought the Cavs wanted Bogans to combine with Hayward's non guarantee to trade for a player for next season.  Now they make this move?

Did we get a better return from the Cavs or Cavs did from the 76ers for Bogans?

It sounds like we got a better return, though it's irrelevant because both teams are in different situations and have different objectives.

The Cavs gave yet another future 2nd, while getting a conditional one back. Their objective though was to stay out of the luxury tax at the end of the season, while gaining a trade exception.

why don't the cavs just keep Bogans?

There seems to be alot of loopholes in the nba trading system. No other major league sports has these kind of "loopholes"

They wanted to avoid the luxury tax threshold. I think you are right about the NBA having the most "loopholes" - though the NFL has quite a few loopholes for roster management in general.

It makes the NBA more exciting from a front office perspective, imo.

[Tr1boy]

http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/11598637/keith-bogans-traded-cleveland-cavaliers-philadelphia-76ers

I thought the Cavs wanted Bogans to combine with Hayward's non guarantee to trade for a player for next season.  Now they make this move?

Did we get a better return from the Cavs or Cavs did from the 76ers for Bogans?

It sounds like we got a better return, though it's irrelevant because both teams are in different situations and have different objectives.

The Cavs gave yet another future 2nd, while getting a conditional one back. Their objective though was to stay out of the luxury tax at the end of the season, while gaining a trade exception.

why don't the cavs just keep Bogans?

There seems to be alot of loopholes in the nba trading system. No other major league sports has these kind of "loopholes"

They wanted to avoid the luxury tax threshold. I think you are right about the NBA having the most "loopholes" - though the NFL has quite a few loopholes for roster management in general.

It makes the NBA more exciting from a front office perspective, imo.

Why couldn't they just cut the non guaranteed guy they sent us.   Then they would be under the threshold no?

[hwangjini_1]

Keith Bogans' contract has created a rift in the NBA salary cap continuum. By this time next week he will have been traded an infinite number of times between every team in the league, and every team will have an infinite trade exception.

Couldn't agree more. Plus, this is team number 11 for bogans I think. One more team and he is tied for the most teams played for in nba history,....and of course the time space salary cap continuum unravels.

[BitterJim]

http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/11598637/keith-bogans-traded-cleveland-cavaliers-philadelphia-76ers

I thought the Cavs wanted Bogans to combine with Hayward's non guarantee to trade for a player for next season.  Now they make this move?

Did we get a better return from the Cavs or Cavs did from the 76ers for Bogans?

It sounds like we got a better return, though it's irrelevant because both teams are in different situations and have different objectives.

The Cavs gave yet another future 2nd, while getting a conditional one back. Their objective though was to stay out of the luxury tax at the end of the season, while gaining a trade exception.

why don't the cavs just keep Bogans?

There seems to be alot of loopholes in the nba trading system. No other major league sports has these kind of "loopholes"

They wanted to avoid the luxury tax threshold. I think you are right about the NBA having the most "loopholes" - though the NFL has quite a few loopholes for roster management in general.

It makes the NBA more exciting from a front office perspective, imo.

Why couldn't they just cut the non guaranteed guy they sent us.   Then they would be under the threshold no?

Doing it this way got them a $5.3 million trade exception, and I think one of the contracts they sent was guaranteed

They could have been under the cap without doing the deals, but this way they get a trade exception that they can use later for a few (likely worthless) 2nd rounders