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Re: Does Danny try to trade for Durant next summer?
« Reply #15 on: September 09, 2014, 11:22:15 AM »

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Sure he tries.  He does not come close to succeeding.

Re: Does Danny try to trade for Durant next summer?
« Reply #16 on: September 09, 2014, 12:04:04 PM »

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While we're at it, I'm going to try and convince Gisele to leave that loser husband of hers for me. 
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Re: Does Danny try to trade for Durant next summer?
« Reply #17 on: September 09, 2014, 12:05:51 PM »

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I would suggest everyone be patient and forget about this generation of stars possibly coming to Boston. The team is just not going to be good enough fast enough to attract the stars in their peak right now. The Celtics should target the next generation of stars by either drafting one or continuing to add trade assets.


Re: Does Danny try to trade for Durant next summer?
« Reply #18 on: September 09, 2014, 12:07:34 PM »

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yea just like the awesome package they put together that acquired Kevin Love..

Lol

You've got to admit though

Looking back, we didn't stand a chance to get Love.

We ended up with a crappy pick as other teams aren't exactly tripping over themselves to deal their star player for the 6th overall pick.

Plus, the younger guys on the team that DA was offering really haven't proven anything yet in the NBA.

This is a best case scenario in which the assets "end up cooking in the oven for another year" so to speak and we end up with no less than a top 3 pick for next year's draft.

I also get Durant is probably aiming too high but I bring his name up because he's really the only marquee free agent name that will be available in the next couple years (Lebron likely stays in Cleveland, Melo will be in NY for the long-term, the Dwight Howard ship sailed, etc.)

Maybe a guy like Demarcus Cousins or another star player requesting to be traded from his current team ends up being a more realistic target.

Re: Does Danny try to trade for Durant next summer?
« Reply #19 on: September 09, 2014, 12:45:34 PM »

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yea just like the awesome package they put together that acquired Kevin Love..

Lol

You've got to admit though

Looking back, we didn't stand a chance to get Love.

We ended up with a crappy pick as other teams aren't exactly tripping over themselves to deal their star player for the 6th overall pick.

Plus, the younger guys on the team that DA was offering really haven't proven anything yet in the NBA.

This is a best case scenario in which the assets "end up cooking in the oven for another year" so to speak and we end up with no less than a top 3 pick for next year's draft.

I also get Durant is probably aiming too high but I bring his name up because he's really the only marquee free agent name that will be available in the next couple years (Lebron likely stays in Cleveland, Melo will be in NY for the long-term, the Dwight Howard ship sailed, etc.)

Maybe a guy like Demarcus Cousins or another star player requesting to be traded from his current team ends up being a more realistic target.

I would be ecstatic if we ever get Cousins

Whether it's Rondo/Cousins or Smart/Cousins, I WANT Cousins on this team

Re: Does Danny try to trade for Durant next summer?
« Reply #20 on: September 09, 2014, 01:10:11 PM »

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I would suggest everyone be patient and forget about this generation of stars possibly coming to Boston. The team is just not going to be good enough fast enough to attract the stars in their peak right now. The Celtics should target the next generation of stars by either drafting one or continuing to add trade assets.

Agree completely.  Our future is not in the past of other teams.  There is no KG/Ray trade possible now, so you build your team the old fashioned way...from the ground up. 

I don't think Durant leaves OKC, as I don't think Gasol will leave Memphis...gut feeling perhaps, but if that is the case then trade options are even more limited.  More of a reason to grow our own stars as much as possible.

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Re: Does Danny try to trade for Durant next summer?
« Reply #21 on: September 09, 2014, 01:13:29 PM »

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There are enough questions about the ownership for both of those franchises that the idea of their players leaving isn't out of the question.

I think it's a contract too early to really think about Durant leaving, though.
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Re: Does Danny try to trade for Durant next summer?
« Reply #22 on: September 09, 2014, 01:16:55 PM »

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Every GM will try to get Durant but it has about as much chance of happening as an icecube lasting in Hades.

Re: Does Danny try to trade for Durant next summer?
« Reply #23 on: September 09, 2014, 01:36:56 PM »

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yea just like the awesome package they put together that acquired Kevin Love..

Lol

You've got to admit though

Looking back, we didn't stand a chance to get Love.

We ended up with a crappy pick as other teams aren't exactly tripping over themselves to deal their star player for the 6th overall pick.

Plus, the younger guys on the team that DA was offering really haven't proven anything yet in the NBA.

This is a best case scenario in which the assets "end up cooking in the oven for another year" so to speak and we end up with no less than a top 3 pick for next year's draft.

I also get Durant is probably aiming too high but I bring his name up because he's really the only marquee free agent name that will be available in the next couple years (Lebron likely stays in Cleveland, Melo will be in NY for the long-term, the Dwight Howard ship sailed, etc.)

Maybe a guy like Demarcus Cousins or another star player requesting to be traded from his current team ends up being a more realistic target.

I still thought they had a decent chance to get Love. 6th pick is far from bad.

Re: Does Danny try to trade for Durant next summer?
« Reply #24 on: September 09, 2014, 01:58:56 PM »

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yea just like the awesome package they put together that acquired Kevin Love..

Lol

You've got to admit though

Looking back, we didn't stand a chance to get Love.

We ended up with a crappy pick as other teams aren't exactly tripping over themselves to deal their star player for the 6th overall pick.

Plus, the younger guys on the team that DA was offering really haven't proven anything yet in the NBA.

This is a best case scenario in which the assets "end up cooking in the oven for another year" so to speak and we end up with no less than a top 3 pick for next year's draft.

I also get Durant is probably aiming too high but I bring his name up because he's really the only marquee free agent name that will be available in the next couple years (Lebron likely stays in Cleveland, Melo will be in NY for the long-term, the Dwight Howard ship sailed, etc.)

Maybe a guy like Demarcus Cousins or another star player requesting to be traded from his current team ends up being a more realistic target.

I still thought they had a decent chance to get Love. 6th pick is far from bad.

True, unfortunately Cleveland was gifted, I mean won the no 1 pick and were also in the hunt.

Re: Does Danny try to trade for Durant next summer?
« Reply #25 on: September 09, 2014, 03:36:44 PM »

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Traded while still under contract and not demanding a trade? Never. However, sign-and-trade is a unique beast because the player is in control.

It's a longshot, but if Rondo is rejuvenated and re-signed and the Celtics can throw 4+ 1st rounders at an OKC team where Durant is now calling the shots on his way out the door, it's at least possible. The key pieces we need, IMO are 1) For Brooklyn to fall apart (now their picks are valuable); and 2) Smart and Rondo BOTH look like All-Star level talent. Obviously any other development of our young players helps, but if you've got an extra All-Star, cap room, multiple 1st rounders, and Durant steering his way here, then yeah, it could happen.

An awful lot of IFs, but it's not inconceivable.

Re: Does Danny try to trade for Durant next summer?
« Reply #26 on: September 09, 2014, 03:42:07 PM »

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Love was really the ideal guy to have traded for, assuming his Boston trip meant he was open to playing and re-signing here. He was still young (25) and they would have had a year to see him and Rondo together. There isn't really another young star that is going to be available for awhile as they are all in good situations or are going to be locked up as restricted free agents.

Even if the Celtics get lucky with the lottery next year and end up with a top pick, I don't see who would be available that would be worth dealing for. Anthony Davis, Aldridge, and Cousins aren't going anywhere, and Marc Gasol is old. Hibbert, Sanders, Monroe, DeAndre Jordan, Asik et al. are interesting names and might be useful players, but they're not someone you overpay for to come to a team that has talent holes elsewhere.

This is why I see Ainge looking at the landscape and deciding to go full rebuild (which they're basically doing already only Rondo is still on the team). As the available trade options dwindle, their draft picks become more valuable to keep than to deal, just as Smart becomes more logical as the future PG than Rondo considering the roster's average age.

Every draft is obviously critical, but they really need a center or a wing scorer in next year's draft. Not having those roles secure for another year would be another year's delay in the rebuild. Without a reliable wing scorer or a defensive big man you can't really even consider the team legitimate.

Re: Does Danny try to trade for Durant next summer?
« Reply #27 on: September 09, 2014, 03:47:15 PM »

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This is why I see Ainge looking at the landscape and deciding to go full rebuild (which they're basically doing already only Rondo is still on the team). As the available trade options dwindle, their draft picks become more valuable to keep than to deal, just as Smart becomes more logical as the future PG than Rondo considering the roster's average age.
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Re: Does Danny try to trade for Durant next summer?
« Reply #28 on: September 09, 2014, 04:11:29 PM »

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Just another failure to add to his resume.

Won't happen

Re: Does Danny try to trade for Durant next summer?
« Reply #29 on: September 09, 2014, 04:49:11 PM »

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Love was really the ideal guy to have traded for, assuming his Boston trip meant he was open to playing and re-signing here. He was still young (25) and they would have had a year to see him and Rondo together. There isn't really another young star that is going to be available for awhile as they are all in good situations or are going to be locked up as restricted free agents.

Even if the Celtics get lucky with the lottery next year and end up with a top pick, I don't see who would be available that would be worth dealing for. Anthony Davis, Aldridge, and Cousins aren't going anywhere, and Marc Gasol is old. Hibbert, Sanders, Monroe, DeAndre Jordan, Asik et al. are interesting names and might be useful players, but they're not someone you overpay for to come to a team that has talent holes elsewhere.

This is why I see Ainge looking at the landscape and deciding to go full rebuild (which they're basically doing already only Rondo is still on the team). As the available trade options dwindle, their draft picks become more valuable to keep than to deal, just as Smart becomes more logical as the future PG than Rondo considering the roster's average age.

Every draft is obviously critical, but they really need a center or a wing scorer in next year's draft. Not having those roles secure for another year would be another year's delay in the rebuild. Without a reliable wing scorer or a defensive big man you can't really even consider the team legitimate.

1.) You don't know for sure that Aldridge, Cousins and whoever else aren't going anywhere.
I am willing to bet a year ago, no one thought Kevin Love was going anywhere.
You may be right, but you also may be wrong. It seems every year, there's always at least one NBA star who's rumored to be on the trade block.  Only guy you mentioned that I could see staying where he is, is Anthony Davis. He's still on his rookie contract so I doubt New Orleans even lets him flinch until he hits unrestricted free agency.

Call it a hunch but as for Cousins, I've got a feeling that if Sacramento doesn't make the playoffs next season, there's a VERY good chance he becomes the next disgruntled NBA star looking to be moved. Granted, doesn't mean Sacramento moves him, BUT if we've got a top 3 pick and other "assets", you never know.

And with Aldridge, he will be a free agent next summer (unless Portland locks him up before hand.)  If he's still set to hit free agency next June, DA could either come calling Porland with assets to deliver in a sign and trade or he could just go after Aldridge outright. After all we will have over 30 mil in cap space next summer.

2.)I sorta disagree with your assessment of guys like Monroe, Sanders, Jordan, Hibbert, etc.
If Rondo is still here, then a guy like Deandre Jordan paired up with Rondo looks awfully good and is a really good start to geting back on track. All that would then be missing is a very effective scoring option to go along with Rondo and star B (insert name, Jordan, Hibbert, Monroe, whoever.)
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