Rondo to Kings or Rockets trade ideas

[Smartacus]

My hope if we decide to pull the trigger on a Rondo trade is that it ends up being one of those trades that came out of nowhere, for a player that none of us even realized was available because we're not GM's who hear things through the actual grapevine instead of through "sources".

[Tr1boy]

Thomas might of still left.

Puzzling how ppl say mclemore sucks. He is 1993 born for god sakes. He has another year to mess up even. And he cant shoot?  Its his main weapon. On top of that is freaky athletic.  You also cant suck and score 31 pts even in one game. Yes he has struggled for 1.5 years but will only get better

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=owQqGDfK37Y

[jambr380]

I say this in every Rondo thread, but if we are to trade him, I want us to have to include additional assets because the player we are acquiring has more 'value.' I also would prefer it be a center prospect - like Cousins or Drummond, but could be convinced if it was a younger all-star levelplayer at another position.

I realize this will not happen, but getting McLemore and a late draft pick in 2019 isn't really of interest to me. I would rather keep our current all-star who also happens to be the face of our organization.

[Tr1boy]

Rondo staying benefits the celts little and actually hurts the growth of the other players. Rondo staying doesnt benefit his ability to get the most for his next contract.

Danny has tried to find dancing partners for a solid year now ( get help or trade rondo). Nobody is giving up a anthony davis for him.  Nobody will give up klay thompson for him.  There is no bidding war for him like there was for Love. Mclemore and picks is prob the best danny has been offered for rondo.

Danny didnt have to trade kg/pp but still did. Last thing danny will do is let rondo walk for free

[jambr380]

Rondo staying benefits the celts little and actually hurts the growth of the other players. Rondo staying doesnt benefit his ability to get the most for his next contract.

Danny has tried to find dancing partners for a solid year now ( get help or trade rondo). Nobody is giving up a anthony davis for him.  Nobody will give up klay thompson for him.  There is no bidding war for him like there was for Love. Mclemore and picks is prob the best danny has been offered for rondo.

Danny didnt have to trade kg/pp but still did. Last thing danny will do is let rondo walk for free

But it probably won't be in Rondo's best interest to simply walk as a FA either. If we get to the end of the year and it is (somehow) clear that Rondo shouldn't come back, then a sign and trade opens up his options to every team in the league rather than just those with cap space. Obviously this would only make sense to us if we were getting a bonafide star / expirings.

I understand the return on sign an trades isn't necessarily all that, but neither is McLemore and a late pick. I would rather take my chances with the all-star we already have.

[wdleehi]

If the Celtics were going to make such a deal with the Kings, they would have done it before the Kings lost those trade pieces. 


There is no point in trading Rondo at this point.  Let him play into his contract year and see if plays well enough to get the Celtics good trade offers.

[Geo123]

Neither.

+1  Trading him for 50 cents value on the dollar is silly...

[Tr1boy]

Neither.

+1  Trading him for 50 cents value on the dollar is silly...

By the trade deadline if all we can get is 50 cents or less value on the dollar, i guess in your books it will be a silly move.

[Hawkeye199]

Thomas might of still left.

Puzzling how ppl say mclemore sucks. He is 1993 born for god sakes. He has another year to mess up even. And he cant shoot?  Its his main weapon. On top of that is freaky athletic.  You also cant suck and score 31 pts even in one game. Yes he has struggled for 1.5 years but will only get better

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=owQqGDfK37Y

look at his stats zellar has had like 3 really good games and he is a decent backup center on a good team.

[BballTim]

You also cant suck and score 31 pts even in one game.

  That's a very uninformed comment.

[BballTim]

Neither.

+1  Trading him for 50 cents value on the dollar is silly...

By the trade deadline if all we can get is 50 cents or less value on the dollar, i guess in your books it will be a silly move.

  So we should make a bad trade with a player we don't need to trade because we don't know if we might be able to make a decent or better trade with him later?

[Tr1boy]

Neither.

+1  Trading him for 50 cents value on the dollar is silly...

By the trade deadline if all we can get is 50 cents or less value on the dollar, i guess in your books it will be a silly move.

  So we should make a bad trade with a player we don't need to trade because we don't know if we might be able to make a decent or better trade with him later?

how do you know the trade later won't be worse??    Imo Rondo's value won't drop or climb for this upcoming season.  I won't repeat all the reasons why i believe it won't climb (while a player like Mclemore's value could rise)

It's not like magically new orleans is going to offer anthony davis (etc.) for Rondo at the trade deadline either.  Look at all the potential playoff bound teams and if they add rondo it won't be at the expense of giving up their top 2 or 3 players. 

Even though Mclemore would be a key piece of the package i'm also thinking about the two 1sts (2017 and 2019 lets say).  By then who knows what is going to happen to that team and those picks could turn out to be in the top 5-10.   

Now you trade Rondo to a contending team and we get a promising player like a mclemore back. Plus picks. Likely those picks will be in the 20's. 

[gpap]

If the Kings want to deal us Cousins or if the Rockets want to deal us Howard or Harden, then we can talk.

Otherwise, I am not interested in either team's sloppy seconds just so they can improve while we get worse.

[LooseCannon]

Ainge offered an extension (max money). Rondo rejected the offer bc he wants at least a longer deal.

Of course. Why would any player in the NBA accept the extension of a current contract when they could accept a new contract worth tens of millions of dollars more a year or two later?

Exactly. He is going to want Max money and years.    But why would Danny give it to him unless he plays out of his mind?  He will have no problem giving Rondo 13-14 million dollars for three years. Rondo is not taking that.

This trade also helps Rondo. Gives him a chance to make the playoffs ,  become playoff rondo and get paid for his next contract.

I deny the premise that Rondo leaves as a free agent unless he gets a max contract.

[BballTim]

Neither.

+1  Trading him for 50 cents value on the dollar is silly...

By the trade deadline if all we can get is 50 cents or less value on the dollar, i guess in your books it will be a silly move.

  So we should make a bad trade with a player we don't need to trade because we don't know if we might be able to make a decent or better trade with him later?

how do you know the trade later won't be worse??    Imo Rondo's value won't drop or climb for this upcoming season.  I won't repeat all the reasons why i believe it won't climb (while a player like Mclemore's value could rise)

  You (like pretty much everyone here) don't know what Rondo's trade value is now or whether it will be higher or lower at a later date.