question (bucks and cleveland)

[MISSERY]

can jabari parker bring the bucks to playoffs with coach kidd?
yes or no?

what will bucks season standing at 20+wins? or at least 30+wins?

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did cleveland made the right decision by trading andrew wiggins?

can he bring the wolves to at least 30+ wins?

and is wiggins the next kobe bryant?

[Endless Paradise]

Bucks: they had the worst record in the league, despite Philly's brazen tank-athon. Even LeBron and KD weren't enough to turn their teams around in their first seasons. By most accounts, no one in this draft is on the level of those two guys or even Anthony Davis as prospects. I think it's safe to say he alone is not good enough to transform them from a 15-win team to a playoff squad. And that's even with Kidd, a former point guard whose greatest impact would likely be seen on a guy like Brandon Knight or even Antetokounmpo, i.e. players with some natural playmaking capability.

Cavs: depends on your perspective. I think it was a no-brainer. For one, they just got the best player in the world to return four years after he left due to not getting adequate help. The Cavs would have been fools to repeat the same mistake that drove him away.  And not because he'd leave - LeBron can't leave again. But because it'd reflect poorly on the franchise and open them to even more criticism for not doing everything they could to surround LeBron with talent - again.

I've also said long ago that, with one of the knocks against Wiggins being his tendency to disappear, putting him in a situation where he'd be - at best - the third option probably wouldn't be the best for his development. He's such a raw player that he needs all the opportunity to play as the focal point of the team as he starts his career.

[Who]

(1) Milwaukee should be able to win 20+ games just by getting Larry Sanders back. I do not think Jabari Parker will help his team much his first year out. He has too many problems in his game to overcome -- terrible defense, bad shot selection, inefficient scorer, bad decision maker = large number of bad plays that hurt his team and will negate the large number of good plays he will make -- So I expect Jabari Parker will be one of the weaker starting SFs in the league next year despite his gaudy ppg numbers. An empty stats player.

(2) Yes, of course. Kevin Love only 25 years old and Kyrie Irving only 22 years old. They still have a fantastic future there and a long window to compete for Championships because of the youth of those two stars. So both an immediate title contender and a long lasting title contender. It's not like the traded away Wiggins for 30+ year old player and only have 3-4 year run at this. This Cleveland team has a long window of opportunity.

(3) Wiggins will be better than Parker because of his defense and because he won't force too many shots that he shouldn't take. That said, he doesn't have the offensive skill to be a go-to guy and is more likely to be a role player level scorer + as a rookie, more likely to be a solid to good defender than a top defensive player. So while Wiggins will help his team more, that help is still on the fairly small side. I do think Minnesota can win 30+ games next year but it will be because of Wiggins' teammates (Pekovic, Thad Young, Rubio) rather than Wiggins himself.

(4) I do not think Wiggins will reach Kobe Bryant levels. I do not think his ball-handling and scoring repertoire is advanced enough to reach that level. I Wiggins' ceiling is closer to Paul George levels.

[CFAN38]

The Bucks will still be bad this year, but with hope. If I was their GM I would move the problematic players Sander and Mayo. Bring in solid vets to help grow a young core of Parker, Knight, Giannis and Henson.

trade idea http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=pm9llkk

Bucks get a starting PF to be a vet leader and young starting SG with range

GS gets a stretch 4 (Kerr reportedly wants one) along with a solid 6th man

Kicks get a young athletic defensive center to fill void left by chandler trade

The Cavs, made the right move. This trade puts them in contention next year. 6 years from now they might kick themselfs but not if the Love lebron combo brings a ring to clevland. (im not sure it will)



 

[MISSERY]

The Bucks will still be bad this year, but with hope. If I was their GM I would move the problematic players Sander and Mayo. Bring in solid vets to help grow a young core of Parker, Knight, Giannis and Henson.

trade idea http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=pm9llkk

Bucks get a starting PF to be a vet leader and young starting SG with range

GS gets a stretch 4 (Kerr reportedly wants one) along with a solid 6th man

Kicks get a young athletic defensive center to fill void left by chandler trade

The Cavs, made the right move. This trade puts them in contention next year. 6 years from now they might kick themselfs but not if the Love lebron combo brings a ring to clevland. (im not sure it will)

lee for illyasova?

[Smitty77]

The Bucks will still be bad this year, but with hope. If I was their GM I would move the problematic players Sander and Mayo. Bring in solid vets to help grow a young core of Parker, Knight, Giannis and Henson.

trade idea http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=pm9llkk

Bucks get a starting PF to be a vet leader and young starting SG with range

GS gets a stretch 4 (Kerr reportedly wants one) along with a solid 6th man

Kicks get a young athletic defensive center to fill void left by chandler trade

The Cavs, made the right move. This trade puts them in contention next year. 6 years from now they might kick themselfs but not if the Love lebron combo brings a ring to clevland. (im not sure it will)

Why are we trying to figure out a trade(s) to make OTHER teams better??  Why not figure out a trade to get Sanders to Boston??  Is this still CELTICSblog???:-))))

Smitty77

[slamtheking]

can jabari parker bring the bucks to playoffs with coach kidd?
yes or no?

what will bucks season standing at 20+wins? or at least 30+wins?

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did cleveland made the right decision by trading andrew wiggins?

can he bring the wolves to at least 30+ wins?

and is wiggins the next kobe bryant?

Bucks:
I think the Bucks will be much better this year than last.  They had too many solid NBA players that were either injured or seriously underperformed last year.  no way they should have been that bad.  I look to the vets to get back on track, particularly Sanders-Mayo-Ilyasova, and good production from the youth, Freak-Henson-Parker, to at least get to a Detroit/Knicks level of play this year.

Cavs:
Hard to argue with trading unknown potential for a top PF in his prime -- especially when that player can form a great core of players with Kyrie, Lebron and Sideshow Bob. 

I think Minny takes an obvious step back for a couple of years while Wiggins figures out life in the NBA.  I think he'll be an all-star but probably never reach the level of hype he had going into college.  C's should be ready to pick him up in a trade when he wants out of Minny right before free agency

[Future Celtics Owner]

I think the bucks will have a better record than us....

[TheTruthFot18]

can jabari parker bring the bucks to playoffs with coach kidd?
yes or no?

Parker, 2nd year Greek Freak, and Knight are a good back court group. If They can trade/ have a better season from Sanders, Mayo, and Ilyasova they can easily top 30 wins and even make the playoffs in the east

did cleveland made the right decision by trading andrew wiggins?

Right now, yes without a doubt. Cleveland won the trade this year but after that we don't know. Love might pull a Howard and bolt or just be a disaster after a contract year.
can he bring the wolves to at least 30+ wins?

and is wiggins the next kobe bryant?

Nooope. Rich mans Iggy IMO

[Irish Stew]

The Bucks will still be bad this year, but with hope. If I was their GM I would move the problematic players Sander and Mayo. Bring in solid vets to help grow a young core of Parker, Knight, Giannis and Henson.

trade idea http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=pm9llkk

Bucks get a starting PF to be a vet leader and young starting SG with range

GS gets a stretch 4 (Kerr reportedly wants one) along with a solid 6th man

Kicks get a young athletic defensive center to fill void left by chandler trade

The Cavs, made the right move. This trade puts them in contention next year. 6 years from now they might kick themselfs but not if the Love lebron combo brings a ring to clevland. (im not sure it will)

Why are we trying to figure out a trade(s) to make OTHER teams better??  Why not figure out a trade to get Sanders to Boston??  Is this still CELTICSblog???:-))))

Smitty77

If I were a NBA GM, the only two players in that large trade that would interest me are Hardaway, who has potential and works cheap, and Sanders who is a huge defensive force but has risky offcourt issues with a contract for 4 years at $11 million per. The other 4 guys either play no defense or will be a pain in the neck (Mayo). If you want Sanders, you are probably looking at something like Zeller, Young, and Bogans who they will just cut plus a 1st round pick or two. With all that, I'm not entirely sure that Sanders is actually available.

[MISSERY]

I think the bucks will have a better record than us....

you think so?