Report: Greg Monroe accepts Piston's qualifying offer

[BudweiserCeltic]

Sounds like the pistons are following the strategy the suns are usin with Bledsoe. Basically, don't overpay unless you have to, don't make an offer, just threaten to match any offers other teams make. It seems to have worked at least in driving down potential suitors for these guys.

And this is exactly why I hope Monroe, and Bledsoe too, take the Qualifying Offer, play out the season, and then leave their respective teams with nothing, as unrestricted free agents, the following summer.

This is something I've wanted to see players do for some time now.  The team's have too much power over RFA's, and playing for the QO is a way for the player's to take back a bit of the power.  Many RFA's get low-balled in contract negotiation's for this exact reason.

And many RFA get overpaid due to it as well.

For Bledsoe in particular he should not take the qualifying offer if a good offer is on the table. He's already suffered some big injuries as it is, and leaving that much money there would be too high a risk for what seems like marginal increase in the open market. Don't think it's worth the gamble if a fair offer is at hand (even if it isn't the optimum he was hoping for).

For Monroe he's an easy max contract in the open market, so taking the qualifying offer for him makes much more sense.

[Monkhouse]

If Monroe resigns, I am willing to bet we can pry Josh Smith from Detroit.

No way they'd resign Monroe and still keep Smith as having both guys is redundant.

In fact, if anything I would go as far to assume that if Ainge doesn't go after Smith, that he truly intends on a long-term rebuild and Rondo is gone by the deadline in February.

Smith has NO ROLE on this team whatsoever. He's entirely ineffective at the 3, so bringing him in means we have yet another 4 when we already have a logjam for minutes at that same position. Why would I want an overpaid, no-defense 4 whose PER and per 36 numbers were worse than both Sullinger and Olynyk (who are both on rookie contracts)?

Smith does do one thing well that no one else on our team does, he is a legit shot blocker. If I had any faith that Rondo and Stevens could reign him in and get him to focus on defense and stay in the paint on offense, I would do it. At this point in his career though, I don't see him changing. He chucks up a ton of inefficient shots and thinks he's a 3 point shooter, and is unfocused and inconsistent on both ends of the floor.

Smith is a great passer, and a great rebounder due to his speed/athleticism. He could fit into a motion offense, and will be given easier shots to take due to the great passing of Rajon Rondo who is also his best friend in the NBA.

[KGs Knee]

Sounds like the pistons are following the strategy the suns are usin with Bledsoe. Basically, don't overpay unless you have to, don't make an offer, just threaten to match any offers other teams make. It seems to have worked at least in driving down potential suitors for these guys.

And this is exactly why I hope Monroe, and Bledsoe too, take the Qualifying Offer, play out the season, and then leave their respective teams with nothing, as unrestricted free agents, the following summer.

This is something I've wanted to see players do for some time now.  The team's have too much power over RFA's, and playing for the QO is a way for the player's to take back a bit of the power.  Many RFA's get low-balled in contract negotiation's for this exact reason.

And many RFA get overpaid due to it as well.

I'd say more players get underpaid than overpaid.  Sure, some of the 'top' players probably do get a bit overpaid, but it's less than you think.  This summer seemed to be an aberration, you usually don't see players like Parsons and Hayward get the absurd contracts they received. For almost all other RFA's (think role players) they tend to get criminally underpaid.

But, maybe my perception is colored by the fact I tend to side with the players in negotiations.  They are the talent.  I couldn't care less about the owners.  I say stick it to them every chance you get.

[gpap]

If Monroe resigns, I am willing to bet we can pry Josh Smith from Detroit.

No way they'd resign Monroe and still keep Smith as having both guys is redundant.

In fact, if anything I would go as far to assume that if Ainge doesn't go after Smith, that he truly intends on a long-term rebuild and Rondo is gone by the deadline in February.

I still think that Smith is bound for Sacramento. Doesn't Jason Terry (buyout) and Derrick Williams for Smith make a lot of sense for both sides?

Hmmm…yeah, I could see that happening.

And then at the deadline, I could see Sacramento making a run at Rondo by offering some combo of Darren Collison, Ben McLemore or Nick Stauskas, Jason Thompson or Carl Landry and possibly a draft pick.

The Kings then run with a foursome of Rondo/Gay/Smith/Cousins.

[Moranis]

Sounds like the pistons are following the strategy the suns are usin with Bledsoe. Basically, don't overpay unless you have to, don't make an offer, just threaten to match any offers other teams make. It seems to have worked at least in driving down potential suitors for these guys.

And this is exactly why I hope Monroe, and Bledsoe too, take the Qualifying Offer, play out the season, and then leave their respective teams with nothing, as unrestricted free agents, the following summer.

This is something I've wanted to see players do for some time now.  The team's have too much power over RFA's, and playing for the QO is a way for the player's to take back a bit of the power.  Many RFA's get low-balled in contract negotiation's for this exact reason.

And many RFA get overpaid due to it as well.

I'd say more players get underpaid than overpaid.  Sure, some of the 'top' players probably do get a bit overpaid, but it's less than you think.  This summer seemed to be an aberration, you usually don't see players like Parsons and Hayward get the absurd contracts they received. For almost all other RFA's (think role players) they tend to get criminally underpaid.

But, maybe my perception is colored by the fact I tend to side with the players in negotiations.  They are the talent.  I couldn't care less about the owners.  I say stick it to them every chance you get.

I think most of them are paid about right.  You do have to remember the real stars all get locked up on max contracts the summer before they are a restricted free agent so their numbers aren't in the list of players you are thinking.  Kyrie Irving for example signed a max extension this summer rather than waiting to be a restricted free agent next summer.

[Who]

Monroe should take the QO. It is more important for him and his long term earnings that he gets out of Detroit and finds himself a good home than returns for max money but in a bad environment that stops him from fulfilling his potential.

[Yoki_IsTheName]

No one has even offered him anything?

That tells something. Get the QO Greg, you'll make more money after, assuming he plays well.

[Mencius]

If Monroe resigns, I am willing to bet we can pry Josh Smith from Detroit.

Why would we want too?   He is inefficient and a poor shooter.

You right.  I don't want him either, for the same reasons; well, that, and because he's way overpaid for that inefficiency.

[Eja117]

This may sound absurd but I'd be willing to use Jeff Green, Rondo, and KO, and a draft pick or two, and a player or two (Bass?, Thornton?) to make a run at Monroe AND Josh Smith AND Hibbert.

Don't ask me for details. The idea is insane enough

[BudweiserCeltic]

Sounds like the pistons are following the strategy the suns are usin with Bledsoe. Basically, don't overpay unless you have to, don't make an offer, just threaten to match any offers other teams make. It seems to have worked at least in driving down potential suitors for these guys.

And this is exactly why I hope Monroe, and Bledsoe too, take the Qualifying Offer, play out the season, and then leave their respective teams with nothing, as unrestricted free agents, the following summer.

This is something I've wanted to see players do for some time now.  The team's have too much power over RFA's, and playing for the QO is a way for the player's to take back a bit of the power.  Many RFA's get low-balled in contract negotiation's for this exact reason.

And many RFA get overpaid due to it as well.

I'd say more players get underpaid than overpaid.  Sure, some of the 'top' players probably do get a bit overpaid, but it's less than you think.  This summer seemed to be an aberration, you usually don't see players like Parsons and Hayward get the absurd contracts they received. For almost all other RFA's (think role players) they tend to get criminally underpaid.

But, maybe my perception is colored by the fact I tend to side with the players in negotiations.  They are the talent.  I couldn't care less about the owners.  I say stick it to them every chance you get.

Yeah, I think you're out of touch with reality on this one. I'm having a hard time envisioning RFA's that have been criminally underpaid, particularly in the NBA which in general role-players get overpaid for on guaranteed contracts. Players have a tendency to underperform their contracts, not the other way around.

[Moranis]

Seems like the longer this goes the more inclined Detroit might be to move Monroe. 

How about something like this

Rondo, Green, Olynyk or Sullinger

for

Jennings, Monroe, Singler


Boston gets a real big man, Detroit gets much more competitive. 

[KGs Knee]

Sounds like the pistons are following the strategy the suns are usin with Bledsoe. Basically, don't overpay unless you have to, don't make an offer, just threaten to match any offers other teams make. It seems to have worked at least in driving down potential suitors for these guys.

And this is exactly why I hope Monroe, and Bledsoe too, take the Qualifying Offer, play out the season, and then leave their respective teams with nothing, as unrestricted free agents, the following summer.

This is something I've wanted to see players do for some time now.  The team's have too much power over RFA's, and playing for the QO is a way for the player's to take back a bit of the power.  Many RFA's get low-balled in contract negotiation's for this exact reason.

And many RFA get overpaid due to it as well.

I'd say more players get underpaid than overpaid.  Sure, some of the 'top' players probably do get a bit overpaid, but it's less than you think.  This summer seemed to be an aberration, you usually don't see players like Parsons and Hayward get the absurd contracts they received. For almost all other RFA's (think role players) they tend to get criminally underpaid.

But, maybe my perception is colored by the fact I tend to side with the players in negotiations.  They are the talent.  I couldn't care less about the owners.  I say stick it to them every chance you get.

Yeah, I think you're out of touch with reality on this one. I'm having a hard time envisioning RFA's that have been criminally underpaid, particularly in the NBA which in general role-players get overpaid for on guaranteed contracts. Players have a tendency to underperform their contracts, not the other way around.

I don't think so, but to each their own.

[manl_lui]

Seems like the longer this goes the more inclined Detroit might be to move Monroe. 

How about something like this

Rondo, Green, Olynyk or Sullinger

for

Jennings, Monroe, Singler


Boston gets a real big man, Detroit gets much more competitive.

I feel we are giving too much in that trade. We arguably giving up 4 of our best talent on our team for 2 good players in return.

Forget Jenning, but in that case, I will throw in a first, but want Drummond if that is the case

[Moranis]

Seems like the longer this goes the more inclined Detroit might be to move Monroe. 

How about something like this

Rondo, Green, Olynyk or Sullinger

for

Jennings, Monroe, Singler


Boston gets a real big man, Detroit gets much more competitive.

I feel we are giving too much in that trade. We arguably giving up 4 of our best talent on our team for 2 good players in return.

Forget Jenning, but in that case, I will throw in a first, but want Drummond if that is the case

Um it is Olynyk OR Sullinger

[mgent]

Sounds like the pistons are following the strategy the suns are usin with Bledsoe. Basically, don't overpay unless you have to, don't make an offer, just threaten to match any offers other teams make. It seems to have worked at least in driving down potential suitors for these guys.

And this is exactly why I hope Monroe, and Bledsoe too, take the Qualifying Offer, play out the season, and then leave their respective teams with nothing, as unrestricted free agents, the following summer.

This is something I've wanted to see players do for some time now.  The team's have too much power over RFA's, and playing for the QO is a way for the player's to take back a bit of the power.  Many RFA's get low-balled in contract negotiation's for this exact reason.

And many RFA get overpaid due to it as well.

I'd say more players get underpaid than overpaid.  Sure, some of the 'top' players probably do get a bit overpaid, but it's less than you think.  This summer seemed to be an aberration, you usually don't see players like Parsons and Hayward get the absurd contracts they received. For almost all other RFA's (think role players) they tend to get criminally underpaid.

But, maybe my perception is colored by the fact I tend to side with the players in negotiations.  They are the talent.  I couldn't care less about the owners.  I say stick it to them every chance you get.

Yeah, I think you're out of touch with reality on this one. I'm having a hard time envisioning RFA's that have been criminally underpaid, particularly in the NBA which in general role-players get overpaid for on guaranteed contracts. Players have a tendency to underperform their contracts, not the other way around.

I don't think so, but to each their own.

It's all relative.

You could say max guys like Rudy Gay are overpaid, or you could say that's just the market for a wing like Rudy Gay, and others like LeBron and Durant are criminally underpaid.