Sixers involved in Love deal; Young to Minny/Bennett to Philly

[MBunge]

The Wolves are pulling off a stellar rebuild in my eyes.

Rubio/Mo Williams/Barrea/Lavine/Shved
Wiggins/Martin/Robinson JR
Brewer/Shabazz/Budinger
Young/Mbah Moute
Pek/Dieng/Turiaf

At 40 and 42 last season I actually think trading Love for Wiggins and Young makes their system better. Young is a better fit next to Pek. They have plenty of assets to try and upgrade their front court even more. Plus their picks. They're in fairly good shape and might be able to fight for an 8th seed with this lineup. A couple more smart moves by Flip an this could turn into a young an exciting team to watch the next few years.

I don't know how much of an upgrade he is over Love defensively, but Young is a MAJOR step down on offense and rebounding.  And it's going to take Wiggins AT LEAST a couple of seasons just to develop into a legitimate NBA player.

If Wiggins turns into Durant or even Tracy McGrady, this was as good a deal as Minny could have possibly made.  If Wiggins turns into a better version of Andre Iguodala, which is certainly possibly, Minny in a few years is going to be no better off than they were.

Mike

[Celtics4ever]

Sixers just lost some ground on being ahead of us.

[colincb]

The Wolves are pulling off a stellar rebuild in my eyes.

Rubio/Mo Williams/Barrea/Lavine/Shved
Wiggins/Martin/Robinson JR
Brewer/Shabazz/Budinger
Young/Mbah Moute
Pek/Dieng/Turiaf

At 40 and 42 last season I actually think trading Love for Wiggins and Young makes their system better. Young is a better fit next to Pek. They have plenty of assets to try and upgrade their front court even more. Plus their picks. They're in fairly good shape and might be able to fight for an 8th seed with this lineup. A couple more smart moves by Flip an this could turn into a young an exciting team to watch the next few years.

Lottery team whose supposed best player (Rubio) has not demonstrated that he can play at anything close to an elite level.  LaVine, whose stock rose at the VSL, and Dieng are promising, but Pek is overpriced, their SFs suck, Young's nothing special, Martin's a bad contract, etc.

Wiggins is not a franchise player based on what I saw of him in college and especially at summer league where franchise players dominate. Doesn't mean he can't be very good and he's unlikey to be a bust, but his offensive skills are surprisingly raw and he's not ready physically to be a dominant defender when he was suppose to be NBA-ready on that side of the ball. Most disturbing was his lack of a handle at his age. He can't create a shot that isn't a outside jumper or via a straight line to the hoop. Wiggins along with Exum were among the few lottery picks whose stock went down in my estimation during summer league.

[footey]

I think Bennett is going to be very decent.  Don't know much about Thad's game. Philly is fully committed to yute movement.

[colincb]

Sixers just lost some ground on being ahead of us.

They're not ahead of us.  Hinkie will be lucky to have a job in 3-5 years. Lots of big gambles.

[Kevin OConnor]

Sixers just lost some ground on being ahead of us.

They're not ahead of us.  Hinkie will be lucky to have a job in 3-5 years. Lots of big gambles.

Hinkie is a genius. Philly will be winning championships.

[Roy H.]

Sixers just lost some ground on being ahead of us.

They're not ahead of us.  Hinkie will be lucky to have a job in 3-5 years. Lots of big gambles.

Hinkie is a genius. Philly will be winning championships.

I think that Philly will go down as the example that proves that rebuilding and tanking are overrated.  My guess is that they don't turn out much better than that Iguodala / Holiday / Young team that lost in the 2012 second round (after taking the Celts to seven games).

[Cman]

The Wolves are pulling off a stellar rebuild in my eyes.

Rubio/Mo Williams/Barrea/Lavine/Shved
Wiggins/Martin/Robinson JR
Brewer/Shabazz/Budinger
Young/Mbah Moute
Pek/Dieng/Turiaf

At 40 and 42 last season I actually think trading Love for Wiggins and Young makes their system better. Young is a better fit next to Pek. They have plenty of assets to try and upgrade their front court even more. Plus their picks. They're in fairly good shape and might be able to fight for an 8th seed with this lineup. A couple more smart moves by Flip an this could turn into a young an exciting team to watch the next few years.

I don't know how much of an upgrade he is over Love defensively, but Young is a MAJOR step down on offense and rebounding.  And it's going to take Wiggins AT LEAST a couple of seasons just to develop into a legitimate NBA player.

If Wiggins turns into Durant or even Tracy McGrady, this was as good a deal as Minny could have possibly made.  If Wiggins turns into a better version of Andre Iguodala, which is certainly possibly, Minny in a few years is going to be no better off than they were.

Mike

But better than if they didn't make any trade and Love walked in the offseason....

[Celtics4ever]

I think Bennett is going to be very decent.

A sucker is born every day.

http://www.sbnation.com/nba/2014/1/14/5305228/anthony-bennett-rookie-season-statistics-cleveland-cavaliers

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1899413-espns-chad-ford-anthony-bennett-looking-like-worst-no-1-pick-in-20-years

[BudweiserCeltic]

I think Bennett is going to be very decent.

A sucker is born every day.

http://www.sbnation.com/nba/2014/1/14/5305228/anthony-bennett-rookie-season-statistics-cleveland-cavaliers

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1899413-espns-chad-ford-anthony-bennett-looking-like-worst-no-1-pick-in-20-years

Dated articles are dated. He came into the summer in much better shape. Also, when he got playing time from February on he improved substantially.

His demise has been extremely exaggerated.

[D.o.s.]

Sixers just lost some ground on being ahead of us.

They're not ahead of us.  Hinkie will be lucky to have a job in 3-5 years. Lots of big gambles.

Hinkie is a genius. Philly will be winning championships.

Talk about a word that gets thrown around way too often.

[Celtics4ever]

His demise has been extremely exaggerated

You have to be good to have a demise.  I don't think he qualifies in that regard.   Demise means death.  In basketball terms he has not had a life thus far.

Also, when he got playing time from February on he improved substantially.

I call BS on this one.   4 PPG  were his stats at the end of year on .36% shooting.   This is not a opinion, these are stats derived from here.

http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/b/bennean01.html

If that is much improved, I hate to see your version of little improved.   Maybe lay off the Budweiser?

[D.o.s.]

His demise has been extremely exaggerated

You have to be good to have a demise.  I don't think he qualifies in that regard.   Demise means death.  In basketball terms he has not had a life thus far.

Also, when he got playing time from February on he improved substantially.

I call BS on this one.   4 PPG  were his stats at the end of year on .36% shooting.   This is not a opinion, these are stats derived from here.

http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/b/bennean01.html

If that is much improved, I hate to see your version of little improved.   Maybe lay off the Budweiser?

It's a little more complicated than that, though, because he logged 15 minutes or more in fewer than twenty games last year:
 http://bkref.com/tiny/FIWy3

Hard to put up numbers with no minutes, although you can make the argument that he would've played more minutes if he was a better player, and I wouldn't necessarily disagree.

[Roy H.]

His demise has been extremely exaggerated

You have to be good to have a demise.  I don't think he qualifies in that regard.   Demise means death.  In basketball terms he has not had a life thus far.

Also, when he got playing time from February on he improved substantially.

I call BS on this one.   4 PPG  were his stats at the end of year on .36% shooting.   This is not a opinion, these are stats derived from here.

http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/b/bennean01.html

If that is much improved, I hate to see your version of little improved.   Maybe lay off the Budweiser?

I watched the Cavs closely last year.  I say throw out any observations you saw, along with the statistics.  Mike Brown had no offensive system at all, and his lack of leadership caused all kinds of problems in the locker room.

I don't have high hopes for Bennett, but I'm not holding his rookie year against him too much.

[Smitty77]

I think Bennett is going to be very decent.  Don't know much about Thad's game. Philly is fully committed to yute movement.

Young is YOUNG.  Pardon the pun:-)))  He just turned 26 about one and a half months ago.

Smitty77