Flip Saunders has actually done a great job getting Love

[chambers]

I was giving him a lot of crap for not taking our deal and questioning his motives.
I believe in the end he got the best deal for the franchise and they are looking at an insanely talented young squad for the next 5 to 6 years.

Who else believes Flip did a fantastic job ?
People can say he's just lucky, and of course luck's involved- but he stayed patient and waited until Lebron made his choice and was ready when the opportunity presented itself- probably what Danny would've done if he was in Flip's position the more you think about it.

GG Flip, you win.

[jaketwice]

Completely agree with the OP. What Flip ended up getting for Love may legitimately be better than Love himself. Our offer didn't come close, neither did Chicago's. Flip knew he would lose Love, and played the market perfectly to get a staggeringly good return.

[Jiri Welsch]

The trade highlights the sad reality that the NBA is the only league where a handful of guys truly dictate almost every team's moves.

If LeBron stays in Miami, Love doesn't go to Cleveland.

[Celtics4ever]

Wiggins is a nice, Bennet though appears to have high bust potential and one of the worst producing number one picks ever.

[Tr1boy]

very good job. Like i said , we didn't have a chance.

I knew Love visiting Boston was going to get this forum excited.  But there was too many other obstacles in the way to make the trade happen.

For one, Flip and especially Taylor will not do another trade with us, unless they are going to rip us off .

Two if you are the Wolves GM unless nobody else offers better, the Celtics offer is your last resort. Like 5 min before the trade deadline window is about to close last resort

It doesn't matter anyways. Love is a mediocre defender and in some ways a inefficient scorer for a pf. Cavs are not winning a championship anytime soon.   

[fitzhickey]

Wiggins is a nice, Bennet though appears to have high bust potential and one of the worst producing number one picks ever.

I think it may be a bit early to judge Bennett. After this season I think he can be labelled a bust, but he already looks considerably leaner.

[Future Celtics Owner]

Flip stated early on that it was his goal to make the playoffs this year. Everyone here heard him say he did not want to go through another rebuilding phase. Well in those regards he failed.

I think it was more of the right stars aligning than Flip's superior management skills. He did get a great haul for Love but there were other factors that helped him.

[Beat LA]

Yeah, Flip got himself a great-looking player in Wiggins, a guy with a lot to prove this year in Anthony Bennett, and a protected pick for 2015 (woo).  Wiggins alone is better than anyone and/or anything that we could have given Minnesota, but in 4 years, won't Wiggins just leave, maybe to Toronto, seeing the way that the careers of KG and Love have played out?  I don't know, it depends on what kind of guy he is.  I'm not really high on him, but there were a number of 'woah' moments in the summer league.  Well, including his free throw shooting   At least Love isn't coming here.  Phew.

[colincb]

I'll take the opposing side. I thought Minnesota did a poor job:

1. Way too much information coming from their camp all along.
2. Painted themselves into corners negotiating.
3. Ruled out one suitor (BOS) based on emotional factors.
4. Fell in love with certain players.

I'll make the bold prediction that Smart ends up being a better NBA player than Wiggins based off what I saw of their games in summer league and how I think they will translate.  I'll make the bold prediction that there are several players who will prove to be better pros than AW.  He's no franchise player.

Even if you give Wiggins an edge, it has to be a big edge to offset the rest of BOS package vs CLE. Bennett will be better than last season's disaster, but he's not really OK upstairs. Had Blatt shaking his head during the VSL.  JS or KO will be superior. Easily. Our other 2 picks > Cavs pick. Likely Ainge would sweeten the pot too, but there was never an attempt to engage the Celtics and he would have to negotiate against himself otherwise if he went back with a better offer. 

Wolves were shooting to be a better team and compete for the playoffs. that's why they drafted LaVine and are now shooting for Wiggins, Bennett and a late first.  All BS to justify avoiding BOS as a trade partner.  When you're making the case that you can't use picks or cap space well, you're basically admitting you're a clusrterF.

[sed522002]

I'll take the opposing side. I thought Minnesota did a poor job:

1. Way too much information coming from their camp all along.
2. Painted themselves into corners negotiating.
3. Ruled out one suitor (BOS) based on emotional factors.
4. Fell in love with certain players.

I'll make the bold prediction that Smart ends up being a better NBA player than Wiggins based off what I saw of their games in summer league and how I think they will translate.  I'll make the bold prediction that there are several players who will prove to be better pros than AW.  He's no franchise player.

Even if you give Wiggins an edge, it has to be a big edge to offset the rest of BOS package vs CLE. Bennett will be better than last season's disaster, but he's not really OK upstairs. Had Blatt shaking his head during the VSL.  JS or KO will be superior. Easily. Our other 2 picks > Cavs pick. Likely Ainge would sweeten the pot too, but there was never an attempt to engage the Celtics and he would have to negotiate against himself otherwise if he went back with a better offer. 

Wolves were shooting to be a better team and compete for the playoffs. that's why they drafted LaVine and are now shooting for Wiggins, Bennett and a late first.  All BS to justify avoiding BOS as a trade partner.  When you're making the case that you can't use picks or cap space well, you're basically admitting you're a clusrterF.

After all that is said, they still got the better deal from the Cavs. Our deal doesn't even compare.

[greg683x]

very good job. Like i said , we didn't have a chance.

I knew Love visiting Boston was going to get this forum excited.  But there was too many other obstacles in the way to make the trade happen.

For one, Flip and especially Taylor will not do another trade with us, unless they are going to rip us off .

Two if you are the Wolves GM unless nobody else offers better, the Celtics offer is your last resort. Like 5 min before the trade deadline window is about to close last resort

It doesn't matter anyways. Love is a mediocre defender and in some ways a inefficient scorer for a pf. Cavs are not winning a championship anytime soon.

dont get hurt trying to pat yourself on the back.  be careful   

[colincb]

I'll take the opposing side. I thought Minnesota did a poor job:

1. Way too much information coming from their camp all along.
2. Painted themselves into corners negotiating.
3. Ruled out one suitor (BOS) based on emotional factors.
4. Fell in love with certain players.

I'll make the bold prediction that Smart ends up being a better NBA player than Wiggins based off what I saw of their games in summer league and how I think they will translate.  I'll make the bold prediction that there are several players who will prove to be better pros than AW.  He's no franchise player.

Even if you give Wiggins an edge, it has to be a big edge to offset the rest of BOS package vs CLE. Bennett will be better than last season's disaster, but he's not really OK upstairs. Had Blatt shaking his head during the VSL.  JS or KO will be superior. Easily. Our other 2 picks > Cavs pick. Likely Ainge would sweeten the pot too, but there was never an attempt to engage the Celtics and he would have to negotiate against himself otherwise if he went back with a better offer. 

Wolves were shooting to be a better team and compete for the playoffs. that's why they drafted LaVine and are now shooting for Wiggins, Bennett and a late first.  All BS to justify avoiding BOS as a trade partner.  When you're making the case that you can't use picks or cap space well, you're basically admitting you're a clusrterF.

After all that is said, they still got the better deal from the Cavs. Our deal doesn't even compare.

Not if Smart turns out almost as good or better than Wiggins.

[More Banners]

I'll take the opposing side. I thought Minnesota did a poor job:

1. Way too much information coming from their camp all along.
2. Painted themselves into corners negotiating.
3. Ruled out one suitor (BOS) based on emotional factors.
4. Fell in love with certain players.

I'll make the bold prediction that Smart ends up being a better NBA player than Wiggins based off what I saw of their games in summer league and how I think they will translate.  I'll make the bold prediction that there are several players who will prove to be better pros than AW.  He's no franchise player.

Even if you give Wiggins an edge, it has to be a big edge to offset the rest of BOS package vs CLE. Bennett will be better than last season's disaster, but he's not really OK upstairs. Had Blatt shaking his head during the VSL.  JS or KO will be superior. Easily. Our other 2 picks > Cavs pick. Likely Ainge would sweeten the pot too, but there was never an attempt to engage the Celtics and he would have to negotiate against himself otherwise if he went back with a better offer. 

Wolves were shooting to be a better team and compete for the playoffs. that's why they drafted LaVine and are now shooting for Wiggins, Bennett and a late first.  All BS to justify avoiding BOS as a trade partner.  When you're making the case that you can't use picks or cap space well, you're basically admitting you're a clusrterF.

After all that is said, they still got the better deal from the Cavs. Our deal doesn't even compare.

Not if Smart turns out almost as good or better than Wiggins.

I would rate both Sully and Olynyk more highly than Bennett.

Already having Rubio and being committed there, Wiggins vs. Smart is a matter of fit:  no place for Smart.

I'm not sure our package was really much off, but that's based on Wiggins/Smart not being a matter of Wiggins' 1st overall hype or of the lack of a starting spot for Smart, and likely Danny not wanting to take back the garbage contract(s) Flip likely wanted to dump, and we were destined to runner up status.

My take is that the rebuilding team with the best crop of young talent, best most stabilizing PG and veterans, and most flexibility going forward will flourish the quickest.  That is more us than Minny, IMO.

I'll take our young core of Smart/Johnson/Turner/Sully/Olynyk/Zeller over Wiggins/Bennett/the other guy.

[freshinthehouse]

I'll take the opposing side. I thought Minnesota did a poor job:

1. Way too much information coming from their camp all along.
2. Painted themselves into corners negotiating.
3. Ruled out one suitor (BOS) based on emotional factors.
4. Fell in love with certain players.

I'll make the bold prediction that Smart ends up being a better NBA player than Wiggins based off what I saw of their games in summer league and how I think they will translate.  I'll make the bold prediction that there are several players who will prove to be better pros than AW.  He's no franchise player.

Even if you give Wiggins an edge, it has to be a big edge to offset the rest of BOS package vs CLE. Bennett will be better than last season's disaster, but he's not really OK upstairs. Had Blatt shaking his head during the VSL.  JS or KO will be superior. Easily. Our other 2 picks > Cavs pick. Likely Ainge would sweeten the pot too, but there was never an attempt to engage the Celtics and he would have to negotiate against himself otherwise if he went back with a better offer. 

Wolves were shooting to be a better team and compete for the playoffs. that's why they drafted LaVine and are now shooting for Wiggins, Bennett and a late first.  All BS to justify avoiding BOS as a trade partner.  When you're making the case that you can't use picks or cap space well, you're basically admitting you're a clusrterF.

Kevin Love painted Minny into a corner.  They didn't have much say in the matter.  There is no shred of proof that Minny wouldn't have taken an offer from Boston if it was decent.  They were in no rush to trade Love, so they waited for a better deal, and sure enough they got one in the form of Wiggins.

The only people that think Saunders and Co. have some issue with Boston are butthurt Celtics fans.

[Waew]

honestly i think danny didnt have the assets to compete. i even think he lowballed a bit by offering a couple picks.