Define "contention"

One important thing to note:

Philly's been at the "rebuild" one year longer. So when you talk about their "plan" compared to the C's its not clear the plan will end up being all that different. Rondo could end up traded for assets and then its the same sort of plan just the C's are one year behind if you look at things on a schedule.

That depends on how you look at rebuilding, though -- you could say they've been rebuilding since 2006.

Without a doubt, the Celtics.

The 76er's practically gave away their talent last year while receiving less value for the dollar.  What will they do with Young ?  Hopefully they actually get equal value for him somewhere down the road. Sure, they got lucky with the ping pong balls and landed three talents in Embiid, Noel, and MCW.

I'm personally not that high on MCW, and their prize pieces are damaged goods.  They really better hope to hells bells that Noel & Embiid can stay off the trainers table.

The Celtics have more assets, more picks, Rondo, & a better coach.  If Ainge hit on Smart or Young, or both, watch out.  You're setup to succeed a lot sooner rather than later.  It's going to be later regardless for the 76er's unless Embiid and Noel just dominate from the start.  I think the only thing they dominate from the start is the electrical tape in the trainer's room.

Short term rebuild - celtics have more assets and a stronger base of players to build from if they can get lucky and secure a trade with a top player.

Long term rebuild, still pretty up in the air.  If Noel and Embid pan out to be the players they potentially could be, then it might be Philly.

Quote from: Fafnir on August 07, 2014, 01:59:15 PM

One important thing to note:

Philly's been at the "rebuild" one year longer. So when you talk about their "plan" compared to the C's its not clear the plan will end up being all that different. Rondo could end up traded for assets and then its the same sort of plan just the C's are one year behind if you look at things on a schedule.

That depends on how you look at rebuilding, though -- you could say they've been rebuilding since 2006.

I say only one year longer because I think Hinkie only came in as GM at that point.

Without a doubt, the Celtics.
Sure, they got lucky with the ping pong balls and landed three talents in Embiid, Noel, and MCW.

Therefore, their rebuild is going much much better. MCW might not be all-star material but he's a definite asset for his D. Noel and Embiid are absolute beasts, even if they each have a 50% chance of being permanently hampered by injuries, that 25% outcome puts Philly way ahead of us. None of our players have anything close to Embiid's potential. If you're talking about Rondo, well he's a great player, but Embiid can be 100x as good.

Absolutely it's Philly. This isn't even close. They drafted a future all star PG in MCW. They killed New Orleans on one of the most lopsided deals of the decade. Not to mention this year they crushed it with Saric and Embiid. Saric would have been much better than Marcus Banks 2.0.

Hinkle has guts. That's more than I can say about Ainge who refuses to trade role players like Rondo, Bass, Green etc...

Hell I would take Minnesota's young core over anyone on this roster. When Hinkle's contract is up they need to offer him anything in order to get someone in here who will do what it takes to tank hard and rebuild the correct way.