Could this be how the substition schedule look like for the Celts?

[Tr1boy]

1st quarter - starter

Zeller
Sully
Green
AB
Rondo

5 min

-KO comes in for Sully
-Pressey and Smart come in for Rondo and AB

Zeller
KO
Green
Smart
Pressey

2 min

-Turner comes in for Green
-Bass comes in for Zeller

KO
Bass
Turner
Smart
Pressey


2nd quarter

-Thornton comes in for Pressey

KO
Bass
Turner
Thornton
Smart

9 min
-Sully comes in for Bass
-Green comes in for Turner

KO
Sully
Green
Thornton
Smart

7 Min
Zeller comes in for KO
Rondo and AB come in for Smart and Thornton

Zeller
Sully
Green
AB
Rondo


2nd half (same deal as above)

But in the 4th quarter the lineup  could look 10 diff ways + Rondo.  Depends who is hot/what has been working.   

thoughts?

[slamtheking]

too much micromanagement.  We don't have players that need to have their minutes managed anymore (not that Doc really managed those minutes particularly well) so I think Stevens will substitute based on the flow of the game. 

[brandonmm94]

I think rondo will get more playing time than that....he will probably average 25-30 minutes a game at least

[Evantime34]

I don't think Pressey will get that much time. I see the first sub being Smart for AB, then a couple minutes later AB coming in for Rondo. Then Turner would get the remainder of the guard minutes (not many), plus splitting the back up 3 minutes with Wallace.

I also think Bass ends up starting because he is a leader and can organize our defense. I expect Olynyk to start with him.

In the end I expect our regular rotation players to be Rondo, Bradley, Green, Bass, Olynyk, Zeller, Sullinger, Smart, Turner. then some others will get time as the season goes along.

[gpap]

Isn't the 2014-15 schedule coming out today?

[Tr1boy]

I don't think Pressey will get that much time. I see the first sub being Smart for AB, then a couple minutes later AB coming in for Rondo. Then Turner would get the remainder of the guard minutes (not many), plus splitting the back up 3 minutes with Wallace.

I also think Bass ends up starting because he is a leader and can organize our defense. I expect Olynyk to start with him.

In the end I expect our regular rotation players to be Rondo, Bradley, Green, Bass, Olynyk, Zeller, Sullinger, Smart, Turner. then some others will get time as the season goes along.

You can't have a three man sg/pg rotation for a full season. (or mainly playing three guys)
Especially in that AB and Rondo are not the most durable guys/recoving from injury.

And unless Thornton and Turner "get it" from day 1, Pressey has the upper hand to be the 1st pg off the bench.  Now if he keeps on missing open jump shots/doesn't watch his turnovers, eventually he won't get much playing time/only when some energy is needed.

Ainge is trying desperately to trade Bass. You don't try to trade a guy one sec and then give him a starting job the next.   He is definitely on the wrong team. Bass is a nice piece on a top contending team, not for this current lineup (same goes for Wallace).

[Csfan1984]

Right now I think minutes are
PG=Rondo 35mins, Smart 13 mins
SG=AB 30mins, Thornton 18 mins
SF=Green 25mins, Turner 23 mins
PF=Bass 20mins, Olynyk 20mins, Green 8mins
C=Sully 26mins, Zeller 18mins, Olynyk 4 mins

Pressey, Bogans, Anthony and Wallace don't need to be in unless there is someone with foul trouble. Young is sent to Dleague for PT. CJ and Bab are likely cuts. Iverson oversees.

[Tr1boy]

Right now I think minutes are
PG=Rondo 35mins, Smart 13 mins
SG=AB 30mins, Thornton 18 mins
SF=Green 25mins, Turner 23 mins
PF=Bass 20mins, Olynyk 20mins, Green 8mins
C=Sully 26mins, Zeller 18mins, Olynyk 4 mins

Pressey, Bogans, Anthony and Wallace don't need to be in unless there is someone with foul trouble. Young is sent to Dleague for PT. CJ and Bab are likely cuts. Iverson oversees.

Don't think Thornton Turner and Bass will be playing that much. Bass could be gone soon.  Pressey is going to get some min

[blink]

Right now I think minutes are
PG=Rondo 35mins, Smart 13 mins
SG=AB 30mins, Thornton 18 mins
SF=Green 25mins, Turner 23 mins
PF=Bass 20mins, Olynyk 20mins, Green 8mins
C=Sully 26mins, Zeller 18mins, Olynyk 4 mins

Pressey, Bogans, Anthony and Wallace don't need to be in unless there is someone with foul trouble. Young is sent to Dleague for PT. CJ and Bab are likely cuts. Iverson oversees.

Don't think Thornton Turner and Bass will be playing that much. Bass could be gone soon.  Pressey is going to get some min

I disagree completely about Pressey.  He is now stuck behind Rondo and Smart.  Thorton and Turner will be playing way more minutes than Pressey.  Turner especially since he can play at the 2 as well.  Unless Rondo or Smart get hurt Pressey is going to be riding the bench for long stretches this year.

[Tr1boy]

Right now I think minutes are
PG=Rondo 35mins, Smart 13 mins
SG=AB 30mins, Thornton 18 mins
SF=Green 25mins, Turner 23 mins
PF=Bass 20mins, Olynyk 20mins, Green 8mins
C=Sully 26mins, Zeller 18mins, Olynyk 4 mins

Pressey, Bogans, Anthony and Wallace don't need to be in unless there is someone with foul trouble. Young is sent to Dleague for PT. CJ and Bab are likely cuts. Iverson oversees.

Don't think Thornton Turner and Bass will be playing that much. Bass could be gone soon.  Pressey is going to get some min

I disagree completely about Pressey.  He is now stuck behind Rondo and Smart.  Thorton and Turner will be playing way more minutes than Pressey.  Turner especially since he can play at the 2 as well.  Unless Rondo or Smart get hurt Pressey is going to be riding the bench for long stretches this year.

Don't forget Smart is still only a rookie. He will build his min but for the first two months, pressey is prob going to be first PG off the bench. He knows the plays and what is expected from BS. 

Thornton while a good offensive weapon is only avg defensively. Turner is inconsistent and some nights disappears.  All Pressey does is play hard , all the time.  IF he can't make open jump shots and turns the ball over as much as he did last season, then yeah, he won't get much playing time at all. But imo he is going to be better this season. The question is, how much better

[Evantime34]

I don't think Pressey will get that much time. I see the first sub being Smart for AB, then a couple minutes later AB coming in for Rondo. Then Turner would get the remainder of the guard minutes (not many), plus splitting the back up 3 minutes with Wallace.

I also think Bass ends up starting because he is a leader and can organize our defense. I expect Olynyk to start with him.

In the end I expect our regular rotation players to be Rondo, Bradley, Green, Bass, Olynyk, Zeller, Sullinger, Smart, Turner. then some others will get time as the season goes along.

You can't have a three man sg/pg rotation for a full season. (or mainly playing three guys)
Especially in that AB and Rondo are not the most durable guys/recoving from injury.

And unless Thornton and Turner "get it" from day 1, Pressey has the upper hand to be the 1st pg off the bench.  Now if he keeps on missing open jump shots/doesn't watch his turnovers, eventually he won't get much playing time/only when some energy is needed.

Ainge is trying desperately to trade Bass. You don't try to trade a guy one sec and then give him a starting job the next.   He is definitely on the wrong team. Bass is a nice piece on a top contending team, not for this current lineup (same goes for Wallace).

Maybe Pressey will get some minutes but i think more often than not you will have two of Smart/Rondo/Bradley on the floor.

Bradley played 30 mpg, last year which I think is a reasonable number for next year. Rondo played 32 minutes, but I would be surprised if they increased him to 35. That leaves 31 minutes remaining for the guards, of which I would be shocked if Smart played less than 20. That leaves 11 minutes for whoever else (I think Turner).

Danny has been trying to trade Bass for years and that hasn't stopped him from starting games. Last year before training camp started he was referred to as the Celtic's defensive leader, I don't think this changes. Anyway, what better way to up someones trade value than to play him heavy minutes?

As to what you said about Pressey being the first PG off the bench early on instead of Smart, I would bet you TPs that, that doesn't happen.

[Csfan1984]

I specifically used phrase "Right now" because I hope for a trade. In my minutes it hopefully helps shop guys.

Hope that makes my view clearer.

[Celtics4ever]

Some of these guys could get hurt or traded,   silly topic.   Smart may blow people's socks off or be a dud.  Who knows.

[hondobird33]

I think the playing time depends on Danny's plan.  If he is looking to increase value of certain players for trade deadline value he might want Stevens to give more time to certain players.  If Stevens wants to win as much as possible he plays veterans like Bass, Green and Rondo bigger minutes.

Our weakness is we do not have a Big 3 or even Big 2.  Our strength is we have good depth. My preference is we can walk the fine line and run an uptempo offense and pressing (not full court - just style) since we can rotate fresh players and showcase more of them for trade value as well as keep them healthy. 

 

[pearljammer10]

Rondo 35/ Smart 13
Bradley 28/ Smart 12/ Turner 8
Green 35/ Turner 13
Sully 24/ Bass 24
KO 24/Zeller 20/Sully 4

Thorton and either Pressey or Vitor fill out the 12 man. Unless Bass is traded, then.

Rondo 35/ Smart 13
Bradley 28/ Smart 12/ Thorton 8
Green 24/ Turner 20/ Thorton 4
Sully 30/ Green 12/ KO 6
KO 20/Zeller 24/Sully 4