Potential stars available within 2 years

[JBcat]

The point of this thread is to discuss potential stars that could be available within 2 years or so via trade or as a free agent.  I want Ainge to be patient keep building those assets if we don't happen to get a star this summer which is looking more and more unlikely.   

Once Chris Bosh and Carmelo Anthony re-signed with their teams I immediately thought things could get ugly in a year or 2 for their respective teams.   I know the Knicks will have some cap space as soon as next year when Amare's deal is off the books but they have so many holes on that team.  Calderon might be an improvement at PG but he is on the downside of his career, and they just lost Chandler.   With the Heat if Wade falls off a cliff with his career things could get pretty ugly there too.  I believe they will have cap space again in 2 years, but I can see this team as well having too many holes to make solid improvements.   Both Bosh and Melo will reach an age in their early 30s similar to when KG and Ray came here.   Both could age well too.  That's something to keep an eye on if the Knicks and Heat hit the reset button, and trade these guys.

All of sudden the Nets are trying to be financially responsible.   I wonder if that's a sign the Russian owner is looking to sell the team at some point.  If so maybe Brook Lopez will go on the block if the team is looking to start over.  A risk because of his injury history, but a top notch offensive center. 

Greg Monroe has been discussed plenty on here recently.

With the Pacers losing Stephenson things could look a little shaky there.  I think they might have peaked last season, and with David West getting older they will eventually need a PF replacement.  If they ever fall to the middle of the pack or worse maybe they would consider trading George to start over.  I doubt it though as he is too good and too young to trade away soon.

Noah with the Bulls.   I think he is turning 30 soon.   If Rose is never himself again, they will still be a good team but never good enough.   I would love him on the C's in 2 years.

Al Hortford of the Hawks also around 30 years old.   Always a borderline all star and very solid.  How many years will the Hawks continue to hover around .500 just barely making the playoffs before they decide to start over. 

Out west I want to see how things develop with Cousins and the Kings over the next couple years.  If they never really improve will he ask out.   Letting I Thomas go, and signing Collison was a head scratching move, and they drafted shooting guards back to back years.   Not sure if they can rely on Gay to be a part of a winning mix.

Everyone knows Love's situation, but maybe the Wolves are stupid enough to hold on to him for the year until free agency.

With the Rockets, Clippers, Thunder and Trailblazers seem pretty stable right now, so I don't see their stars asking out.  However the Rockets haven't had a very good summer so far.  One key injury to any of these teams in a loaded west could change things.   Still a pipedream we can land Durant somehow in 2016.  Maybe Westbrook continues to have injuries and declines. 

Marc Gasol.  I can't see the Grizzlies getting any better than they are right now.   Tony Allen and Randolph are starting to get up there in age.  I wonder how things will look a year or 2 from now.

Kobe as the 6th man 2 years from now?  lol   

Anyone else you are keeping your eye on? 

[Robb]

Marc Gasol.  I can't see the Grizzlies getting any better than they are right now.   Tony Allen and Randolph are starting to get up there in age.  I wonder how things will look a year or 2 from now.

As much as I'd love Marc Gasol, the Grizzlies were the best team in the NBA last season when he was healthy and who knows what happens in the playoffs if ZBo wasn't stupidly suspended for elbowing Steven Adams.  He'd be great as a FA acquisition, but he'd be leaving an absolute championship contender.

[Celtics4ever]

Most of those guys hate us.

[jay]

My worry is we are waiting to pounce on another KG situation but those A level free agents won't be available.  Aldridge will stay put.  Gasol will go to Knicks.  Durant to DC or OKC.

A lot of B+ guys are all hitting 29 or 30 now, so in a year or two it won't be worth giving up a ton of assets for them.  Millsap, Jefferson, Bosh, etc...

The top young players will be unavailable Wall, Cousins, Kahwi, George, Irving, etc...

The young B guys that we can hope to trade for in the next year might be DeRozan, Monroe, Jordan, Galinari, maybe Parsons or  Hayward's bloated contracts in 1.5 to 2 years, Stephenson in 2 years.

So I think maybe add a B player like Monroe now, or add one next year.  Keep building through the draft.  Maybe one of those A guys will be available by trade in 2 years.  Maybe Danny doesn't want Monroe because he doesn't want to win too much this year.  Maybe the plan is win 30-35 games, draft a center, convince Green and Rondo to return, then try to trade for a B list guy in 2 years. 

[gpap]

My hope (and hopefully this is DA's plan) is they target either an A or B+ level FA next summer like Marc Gasol, Kevin Love, Paul Millsap or Al Jefferson (sounds like Aldridge is staying in Portland.)

Then, with that pick up, put us in a better situation to pick up either Kevin Durant or Anthony Davis in 2016.

[puskas54_10]

The point of this thread is to discuss potential stars that could be available within 2 years or so via trade or as a free agent.  I want Ainge to be patient keep building those assets if we don't happen to get a star this summer which is looking more and more unlikely.   

Once Chris Bosh and Carmelo Anthony re-signed with their teams I immediately thought things could get ugly in a year or 2 for their respective teams.   I know the Knicks will have some cap space as soon as next year when Amare's deal is off the books but they have so many holes on that team.  Calderon might be an improvement at PG but he is on the downside of his career, and they just lost Chandler.   With the Heat if Wade falls off a cliff with his career things could get pretty ugly there too.  I believe they will have cap space again in 2 years, but I can see this team as well having too many holes to make solid improvements.   Both Bosh and Melo will reach an age in their early 30s similar to when KG and Ray came here.   Both could age well too.  That's something to keep an eye on if the Knicks and Heat hit the reset button, and trade these guys.

All of sudden the Nets are trying to be financially responsible.   I wonder if that's a sign the Russian owner is looking to sell the team at some point.  If so maybe Brook Lopez will go on the block if the team is looking to start over.  A risk because of his injury history, but a top notch offensive center. 

Greg Monroe has been discussed plenty on here recently.

With the Pacers losing Stephenson things could look a little shaky there.  I think they might have peaked last season, and with David West getting older they will eventually need a PF replacement.  If they ever fall to the middle of the pack or worse maybe they would consider trading George to start over.  I doubt it though as he is too good and too young to trade away soon.

Noah with the Bulls.   I think he is turning 30 soon.   If Rose is never himself again, they will still be a good team but never good enough.   I would love him on the C's in 2 years.

Al Hortford of the Hawks also around 30 years old.   Always a borderline all star and very solid.  How many years will the Hawks continue to hover around .500 just barely making the playoffs before they decide to start over. 

Out west I want to see how things develop with Cousins and the Kings over the next couple years.  If they never really improve will he ask out.   Letting I Thomas go, and signing Collison was a head scratching move, and they drafted shooting guards back to back years.   Not sure if they can rely on Gay to be a part of a winning mix.

Everyone knows Love's situation, but maybe the Wolves are stupid enough to hold on to him for the year until free agency.

With the Rockets, Clippers, Thunder and Trailblazers seem pretty stable right now, so I don't see their stars asking out.  However the Rockets haven't had a very good summer so far.  One key injury to any of these teams in a loaded west could change things.   Still a pipedream we can land Durant somehow in 2016.  Maybe Westbrook continues to have injuries and declines. 

Marc Gasol.  I can't see the Grizzlies getting any better than they are right now.   Tony Allen and Randolph are starting to get up there in age.  I wonder how things will look a year or 2 from now.

Kobe as the 6th man 2 years from now?  lol   

Anyone else you are keeping your eye on?

Just for Marc Gasol:
Why do people think think that Gasol is available. Last year I read here a lot of daydreaming about Marc Gasol on the celtics.
First of all the Grizzles like him. He will probably re-sign with them.
Secondly the reasonsing is not make sense. People say Memphis is not getting better. But they are pretty good already.
So people say: Marc come to the Celtics. We know Memphis is a good team in the tough west, but come to the crappy celtics. It's just not make sense.

[Eddie20]

The point of this thread is to discuss potential stars that could be available within 2 years or so via trade or as a free agent.  I want Ainge to be patient keep building those assets if we don't happen to get a star this summer which is looking more and more unlikely.   

Once Chris Bosh and Carmelo Anthony re-signed with their teams I immediately thought things could get ugly in a year or 2 for their respective teams.   I know the Knicks will have some cap space as soon as next year when Amare's deal is off the books but they have so many holes on that team.  Calderon might be an improvement at PG but he is on the downside of his career, and they just lost Chandler.   With the Heat if Wade falls off a cliff with his career things could get pretty ugly there too.  I believe they will have cap space again in 2 years, but I can see this team as well having too many holes to make solid improvements.   Both Bosh and Melo will reach an age in their early 30s similar to when KG and Ray came here.   Both could age well too.  That's something to keep an eye on if the Knicks and Heat hit the reset button, and trade these guys.

All of sudden the Nets are trying to be financially responsible.   I wonder if that's a sign the Russian owner is looking to sell the team at some point.  If so maybe Brook Lopez will go on the block if the team is looking to start over.  A risk because of his injury history, but a top notch offensive center. 

Greg Monroe has been discussed plenty on here recently.

With the Pacers losing Stephenson things could look a little shaky there.  I think they might have peaked last season, and with David West getting older they will eventually need a PF replacement.  If they ever fall to the middle of the pack or worse maybe they would consider trading George to start over.  I doubt it though as he is too good and too young to trade away soon.

Noah with the Bulls.   I think he is turning 30 soon.   If Rose is never himself again, they will still be a good team but never good enough.   I would love him on the C's in 2 years.

Al Hortford of the Hawks also around 30 years old.   Always a borderline all star and very solid.  How many years will the Hawks continue to hover around .500 just barely making the playoffs before they decide to start over. 

Out west I want to see how things develop with Cousins and the Kings over the next couple years.  If they never really improve will he ask out.   Letting I Thomas go, and signing Collison was a head scratching move, and they drafted shooting guards back to back years.   Not sure if they can rely on Gay to be a part of a winning mix.

Everyone knows Love's situation, but maybe the Wolves are stupid enough to hold on to him for the year until free agency.

With the Rockets, Clippers, Thunder and Trailblazers seem pretty stable right now, so I don't see their stars asking out.  However the Rockets haven't had a very good summer so far.  One key injury to any of these teams in a loaded west could change things.   Still a pipedream we can land Durant somehow in 2016.  Maybe Westbrook continues to have injuries and declines. 

Marc Gasol.  I can't see the Grizzlies getting any better than they are right now.   Tony Allen and Randolph are starting to get up there in age.  I wonder how things will look a year or 2 from now.

Kobe as the 6th man 2 years from now?  lol   

Anyone else you are keeping your eye on?

Just for Marc Gasol:
Why do people think think that Gasol is available. Last year I read here a lot of daydreaming about Marc Gasol on the celtics.
First of all the Grizzles like him. He will probably re-sign with them.
Secondly the reasonsing is not make sense. People say Memphis is not getting better. But they are pretty good already.
So people say: Marc come to the Celtics. We know Memphis is a good team in the tough west, but come to the crappy celtics. It's just not make sense.

Why would the C's landing him be so farfetched? Their team is getting pretty old and I really do question how they will improve in the foreseeable future. A small market team with an aging roster an no young prospects is a bad combination.

[jay]

The problem isn't Memphis.  It's the Knicks.  They brought in Calderon, they have a ton of cap space next year, and the Triangle offense fits him perfectly.

[puskas54_10]

The point of this thread is to discuss potential stars that could be available within 2 years or so via trade or as a free agent.  I want Ainge to be patient keep building those assets if we don't happen to get a star this summer which is looking more and more unlikely.   

Once Chris Bosh and Carmelo Anthony re-signed with their teams I immediately thought things could get ugly in a year or 2 for their respective teams.   I know the Knicks will have some cap space as soon as next year when Amare's deal is off the books but they have so many holes on that team.  Calderon might be an improvement at PG but he is on the downside of his career, and they just lost Chandler.   With the Heat if Wade falls off a cliff with his career things could get pretty ugly there too.  I believe they will have cap space again in 2 years, but I can see this team as well having too many holes to make solid improvements.   Both Bosh and Melo will reach an age in their early 30s similar to when KG and Ray came here.   Both could age well too.  That's something to keep an eye on if the Knicks and Heat hit the reset button, and trade these guys.

All of sudden the Nets are trying to be financially responsible.   I wonder if that's a sign the Russian owner is looking to sell the team at some point.  If so maybe Brook Lopez will go on the block if the team is looking to start over.  A risk because of his injury history, but a top notch offensive center. 

Greg Monroe has been discussed plenty on here recently.

With the Pacers losing Stephenson things could look a little shaky there.  I think they might have peaked last season, and with David West getting older they will eventually need a PF replacement.  If they ever fall to the middle of the pack or worse maybe they would consider trading George to start over.  I doubt it though as he is too good and too young to trade away soon.

Noah with the Bulls.   I think he is turning 30 soon.   If Rose is never himself again, they will still be a good team but never good enough.   I would love him on the C's in 2 years.

Al Hortford of the Hawks also around 30 years old.   Always a borderline all star and very solid.  How many years will the Hawks continue to hover around .500 just barely making the playoffs before they decide to start over. 

Out west I want to see how things develop with Cousins and the Kings over the next couple years.  If they never really improve will he ask out.   Letting I Thomas go, and signing Collison was a head scratching move, and they drafted shooting guards back to back years.   Not sure if they can rely on Gay to be a part of a winning mix.

Everyone knows Love's situation, but maybe the Wolves are stupid enough to hold on to him for the year until free agency.

With the Rockets, Clippers, Thunder and Trailblazers seem pretty stable right now, so I don't see their stars asking out.  However the Rockets haven't had a very good summer so far.  One key injury to any of these teams in a loaded west could change things.   Still a pipedream we can land Durant somehow in 2016.  Maybe Westbrook continues to have injuries and declines. 

Marc Gasol.  I can't see the Grizzlies getting any better than they are right now.   Tony Allen and Randolph are starting to get up there in age.  I wonder how things will look a year or 2 from now.

Kobe as the 6th man 2 years from now?  lol   

Anyone else you are keeping your eye on?

Just for Marc Gasol:
Why do people think think that Gasol is available. Last year I read here a lot of daydreaming about Marc Gasol on the celtics.
First of all the Grizzles like him. He will probably re-sign with them.
Secondly the reasonsing is not make sense. People say Memphis is not getting better. But they are pretty good already.
So people say: Marc come to the Celtics. We know Memphis is a good team in the tough west, but come to the crappy celtics. It's just not make sense.

Why would the C's landing him be so farfetched? Their team is getting pretty old and I really do question how they will improve in the foreseeable future. A small market team with an aging roster an no young prospects is a bad combination.

You said it right as far as that Memphis is small market team. But that's it.
A small market team in the NBA can't expect to win championships, unless you have Lebron or Durant or Popovich ala mega-superstar or the best coach ever. if they are competive and one of the good teams, that's more than enough. And they definitely would be worse without Gasol. Ticket sales would decrease, etc.

[Monkhouse]

The point of this thread is to discuss potential stars that could be available within 2 years or so via trade or as a free agent.  I want Ainge to be patient keep building those assets if we don't happen to get a star this summer which is looking more and more unlikely.   

Once Chris Bosh and Carmelo Anthony re-signed with their teams I immediately thought things could get ugly in a year or 2 for their respective teams.   I know the Knicks will have some cap space as soon as next year when Amare's deal is off the books but they have so many holes on that team.  Calderon might be an improvement at PG but he is on the downside of his career, and they just lost Chandler.   With the Heat if Wade falls off a cliff with his career things could get pretty ugly there too.  I believe they will have cap space again in 2 years, but I can see this team as well having too many holes to make solid improvements.   Both Bosh and Melo will reach an age in their early 30s similar to when KG and Ray came here.   Both could age well too.  That's something to keep an eye on if the Knicks and Heat hit the reset button, and trade these guys.

All of sudden the Nets are trying to be financially responsible.   I wonder if that's a sign the Russian owner is looking to sell the team at some point.  If so maybe Brook Lopez will go on the block if the team is looking to start over.  A risk because of his injury history, but a top notch offensive center. 

Greg Monroe has been discussed plenty on here recently.

With the Pacers losing Stephenson things could look a little shaky there.  I think they might have peaked last season, and with David West getting older they will eventually need a PF replacement.  If they ever fall to the middle of the pack or worse maybe they would consider trading George to start over.  I doubt it though as he is too good and too young to trade away soon.

Noah with the Bulls.   I think he is turning 30 soon.   If Rose is never himself again, they will still be a good team but never good enough.   I would love him on the C's in 2 years.

Al Hortford of the Hawks also around 30 years old.   Always a borderline all star and very solid.  How many years will the Hawks continue to hover around .500 just barely making the playoffs before they decide to start over. 

Out west I want to see how things develop with Cousins and the Kings over the next couple years.  If they never really improve will he ask out.   Letting I Thomas go, and signing Collison was a head scratching move, and they drafted shooting guards back to back years.   Not sure if they can rely on Gay to be a part of a winning mix.

Everyone knows Love's situation, but maybe the Wolves are stupid enough to hold on to him for the year until free agency.

With the Rockets, Clippers, Thunder and Trailblazers seem pretty stable right now, so I don't see their stars asking out.  However the Rockets haven't had a very good summer so far.  One key injury to any of these teams in a loaded west could change things.   Still a pipedream we can land Durant somehow in 2016.  Maybe Westbrook continues to have injuries and declines. 

Marc Gasol.  I can't see the Grizzlies getting any better than they are right now.   Tony Allen and Randolph are starting to get up there in age.  I wonder how things will look a year or 2 from now.

Kobe as the 6th man 2 years from now?  lol   

Anyone else you are keeping your eye on?

Just for Marc Gasol:
Why do people think think that Gasol is available. Last year I read here a lot of daydreaming about Marc Gasol on the celtics.
First of all the Grizzles like him. He will probably re-sign with them.
Secondly the reasonsing is not make sense. People say Memphis is not getting better. But they are pretty good already.
So people say: Marc come to the Celtics. We know Memphis is a good team in the tough west, but come to the crappy celtics. It's just not make sense.

Why would the C's landing him be so farfetched? Their team is getting pretty old and I really do question how they will improve in the foreseeable future. A small market team with an aging roster an no young prospects is a bad combination.

Marc Gasol has already come out and said that his dream is to re-sign in Grizzlies

“I’ve always said Memphis is my home away from home,” Gasol said. “Robert (Pera, Grizzlies owner) knows that. I know that. My teammates know that and that’s all that matters. I live day to day but I don’t see myself anywhere else."

If we're getting him, then it has to be through a trade with agreement to re-sign... Other wise, I can see him bolting to Knicks, or possibly Bulls where they can do a PF/C combo of Noah/Gasol. Gasol being to hit the mid range to provide spacing should work, plus his brother is there.

[celticmania]

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