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What are the Pistons doing?
« on: July 17, 2014, 11:19:02 AM »

Offline Joe Green

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Why are they trying to trade JSmoove for 2 power forwards? Monroe and Drummond were terrible pairing last year. They could S&T Monroe for a borderline allstar SF, slide Smith to PF and would be a contender at least in the east.

Ideally, they would also upgrade their PG position... something along the lines of:

Monroe + B Jennings + draft picks  for Rondo + Green

I am not claiming these numbers work.. but a Rondo, Pope, Green, Smith and Drummond starting 5  would be a nightmare for most teams in the East...
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Re: What are the Pistons doing?
« Reply #1 on: July 17, 2014, 11:41:54 AM »

Offline celticpride1

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Why because they overpaid Josh Smith and they know that now. If they could get a wheel of cheese for Smith they would take  it.
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« Reply #2 on: July 17, 2014, 12:24:17 PM »

Offline Chris22

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Quote from: Joe Green on July 17, 2014, 11:19:02 AM
Why are they trying to trade JSmoove for 2 power forwards? Monroe and Drummond were terrible pairing last year. They could S&T Monroe for a borderline allstar SF, slide Smith to PF and would be a contender at least in the east.

Ideally, they would also upgrade their PG position... something along the lines of:

Monroe + B Jennings + draft picks  for Rondo + Green

I am not claiming these numbers work.. but a Rondo, Pope, Green, Smith and Drummond starting 5  would be a nightmare for most teams in the East...

That is a trade which would help both teams.

Smith is best as a power forward.
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« Reply #3 on: July 17, 2014, 12:35:01 PM »

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Who would Detroit be getting back if Smith is traded to Sac
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« Reply #4 on: July 17, 2014, 12:35:28 PM »

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I'd like to work a deal Rondo/Wallace if we trade Rondo.

Monroe and Jennings if we had too...maybe we don't get a ick since we unload Wallace.  Defensively that might be a awesome Detroit team.  Offensively it may struggle. 

Even involve Sac in it.   

Rondo/Wallace for Rudy Gay.   
Green to Detroit~Smith to Sac

Monroe to Boston.

Jennings/Pope/Green/Bass/Drumand
Smart/Bradley/Gay/Sulley/Monroe
Rondo/XXX/Wallace/XXX/Cuz
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« Reply #5 on: July 17, 2014, 12:40:54 PM »

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Quote from: Chris22 on July 17, 2014, 12:24:17 PM
Quote from: Joe Green on July 17, 2014, 11:19:02 AM
Why are they trying to trade JSmoove for 2 power forwards? Monroe and Drummond were terrible pairing last year. They could S&T Monroe for a borderline allstar SF, slide Smith to PF and would be a contender at least in the east.

Ideally, they would also upgrade their PG position... something along the lines of:

Monroe + B Jennings + draft picks  for Rondo + Green

I am not claiming these numbers work.. but a Rondo, Pope, Green, Smith and Drummond starting 5  would be a nightmare for most teams in the East...

Can Monroe be a #1 guy though is my biggest question? And without a true PG like Rondo how can he get off. He doesn't strike me as the carry the team type which Rondo has to be for this Boston team.

That is a trade which would help both teams.

Smith is best as a power forward.
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« Reply #6 on: July 17, 2014, 12:44:28 PM »

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That can net you Wallace and Rondo

Wallace + Rondo
for
Monroe, Jennings, Filler and picks.
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« Reply #7 on: July 17, 2014, 01:05:34 PM »

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What Detroit is doing is damage control, they need to find quick fixes to Dumar's mistakes. J Smith needs to be dumped and his value is low so they are not likely looking for much more then a team willing to take him. This is why Thompson and Williams or Terry is being reported. Their next move will likely be two secure Monroe long term and move Jennings. I wouldn't be shocked to learn that a Monroe deal is contingent on them moving Smith.
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« Reply #8 on: July 17, 2014, 01:06:10 PM »

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Quote from: Joe Green on July 17, 2014, 11:19:02 AM
Why are they trying to trade JSmoove for 2 power forwards?

Unless you know something I don't, they're not.  Sacramento is offering them two power forwards, and they're trying to find someone to take one of the power forwards for a small forward.  If they wanted two power forwards, the trade would have already happened.
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« Reply #9 on: July 17, 2014, 01:11:17 PM »

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Interesting that a Monroe sign and trade to Portland was discussed.

http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/11226217/detroit-pistons-sacramento-kings-resume-josh-smith-trade-talk

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Sources said the Pistons also seriously discussed various sign-and-trade scenarios this month that would have landed restricted free agent Greg Monroe in Portland, but the Blazers ultimately pulled themselves out of the race for Monroe by signing free-agent big man Chris Kaman to join Robin Lopez in the Blazers' center rotation.

I wonder if the report of Portland (not Detroit) pulling out is accurate. I wonder what kind of package the Blazers could have offered that Detroit would have seriously considered.
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Re: What are the Pistons doing?
« Reply #10 on: July 17, 2014, 01:43:44 PM »

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Quote from: Joe Green on July 17, 2014, 11:19:02 AM
Why are they trying to trade JSmoove for 2 power forwards? Monroe and Drummond were terrible pairing last year. They could S&T Monroe for a borderline allstar SF, slide Smith to PF and would be a contender at least in the east.

Ideally, they would also upgrade their PG position... something along the lines of:

Monroe + B Jennings + draft picks  for Rondo + Green

I am not claiming these numbers work.. but a Rondo, Pope, Green, Smith and Drummond starting 5  would be a nightmare for most teams in the East...
Monroe for green and filler is better for us and solves detroits need for a SF.
I'd do smith for Wallace and expirings if they'd take it.
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Re: What are the Pistons doing?
« Reply #11 on: July 17, 2014, 01:52:15 PM »

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What about a trade that sends Rondo and Jeff Green to the Pistons in exchange for Andre Drummond, Jonas Jerebko, Brandon Jennings and Will Bynum? The Pistons can re-sign Monroe and seriously compete in the East (on a side note: the Central Division would be a bloodbath). The Celtics get a potentially dominant player at center. The Clippers pick and/or the 76ers pick could also be thrown in if need be.
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« Reply #12 on: July 17, 2014, 02:01:45 PM »

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Quote from: cm43sports on July 17, 2014, 01:52:15 PM
What about a trade that sends Rondo and Jeff Green to the Pistons in exchange for Andre Drummond, Jonas Jerebko, Brandon Jennings and Will Bynum? The Pistons can re-sign Monroe and seriously compete in the East (on a side note: the Central Division would be a bloodbath). The Celtics get a potentially dominant player at center. The Clippers pick and/or the 76ers pick could also be thrown in if need be.

It would cost us much more than that to pry Drummond away, but even then I would do it. Rondo, Green, and two 1st rounders.
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« Reply #13 on: July 17, 2014, 02:21:06 PM »

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Quote from: Joe Green on July 17, 2014, 11:19:02 AM
Why are they trying to trade JSmoove for 2 power forwards? Monroe and Drummond were terrible pairing last year. They could S&T Monroe for a borderline allstar SF, slide Smith to PF and would be a contender at least in the east.

Ideally, they would also upgrade their PG position... something along the lines of:

Monroe + B Jennings + draft picks  for Rondo + Green

I am not claiming these numbers work.. but a Rondo, Pope, Green, Smith and Drummond starting 5  would be a nightmare for most teams in the East...

Good topic. Here's your first TP!

I started a thread a few days ago on "Detroit as a good trade partner" for us, and a lot of our fellow blog-mates came up with some good conversation and ideas.

http://forums.celticsblog.com/index.php?topic=72571.msg1708215#msg1708215

Check it out.
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« Reply #14 on: July 17, 2014, 02:24:22 PM »

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Quote from: celticpride1 on July 17, 2014, 11:41:54 AM
Why because they overpaid Josh Smith and they know that now. If they could get a wheel of cheese for Smith they would take  it.
I dunno.  You are talking about a GM who just gave Caron Butler and DJ Augustin big money.  He might think Smith is Larry Bird :)
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