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Re: Stephenson signs with Charlotte
« Reply #30 on: July 16, 2014, 08:37:13 AM »

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$9 million/year?

That's a great deal for Charlotte after the silly season deals we've seen the past 2 weeks.  Lance taking the gamble on himself here to look to really cash in, 3 years from now.

Would've sworn someone would've gone crazy money with Lance and overpaid him.

Player option for year 3.  He's looking to cash in on himself in the summer of '16, which will make some of this summer's contracts look like ridiculous bargains.  The salary cap could be between $75 and $80 million.  If Lance pulls it together and makes an All-Star game in the next two years, he could be looking at a deal in the $22 mil per year range.  People won't be crying about Bradley's contract then, when he makes 40% of Lance.  (Well, they still will, because what are Internet forums for if not to complain about something that you have limited information about?)

Re: Stephenson signs with Charlotte
« Reply #31 on: July 16, 2014, 08:40:31 AM »

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$9 million/year?

That's a great deal for Charlotte after the silly season deals we've seen the past 2 weeks.  Lance taking the gamble on himself here to look to really cash in, 3 years from now.

Would've sworn someone would've gone crazy money with Lance and overpaid him.

Player option for year 3.  He's looking to cash in on himself in the summer of '16, which will make some of this summer's contracts look like ridiculous bargains.  The salary cap could be between $75 and $80 million.  If Lance pulls it together and makes an All-Star game in the next two years, he could be looking at a deal in the $22 mil per year range.  People won't be crying about Bradley's contract then, when he makes 40% of Lance.  (Well, they still will, because what are Internet forums for if not to complain about something that you have limited information about?)

Player option even makes it better for Lance.

Now he just needs to keep his head on straight for 2 seasons.


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Re: Stephenson signs with Charlotte
« Reply #32 on: July 16, 2014, 08:40:48 AM »

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And another opportunity for us that we never took advantage of ::).  Thanks Danny

Re: Stephenson signs with Charlotte
« Reply #33 on: July 16, 2014, 08:43:20 AM »

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I wonder if Indiana would have interest in Jeff Green now as a "replacement".  Shift George to SG, bring in Green as a complimentary scoring SF.  Maybe some sort of S&T involving Turner.  Just throwing it out there.

I'm all for trading Green for something of value, but for Turner? Really? I mean, we can sign him right now for much less without giving up anything if we want to.

I don't think we can still do S&T with the Pacers...
AFAIK both teams are around 70M+ in salaries so we can only do swap with them...

Mahinmi + Hill = Green + Anthony

Expect Wallace to be our starting SF :P
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Re: Stephenson signs with Charlotte
« Reply #34 on: July 16, 2014, 08:46:10 AM »

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And another opportunity for us that we never took advantage of ::).  Thanks Danny

What opportunity?

Re: Stephenson signs with Charlotte
« Reply #35 on: July 16, 2014, 08:47:35 AM »

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And another opportunity for us that we never took advantage of ::).  Thanks Danny

You know signing Lance for us will only be via S&T...
and Lance need to agree on the offer and other team to agree on  S&T...

it's not like:
DA: "Hey Lance! sign with us!"
Lance: "Sure! why not! screw CBA!"
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Re: Stephenson signs with Charlotte
« Reply #36 on: July 16, 2014, 08:48:19 AM »

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9 mil!?!?! And were paying AB 8?!?! I'm shaking my head so much I had to call off work. I'm throwing up. We need players like Lance. Playmakers. and to know he only went for a million more than AB makes it even worse.

Locker room stuff matters.  A lot of teams don't want to take a chance on bad character with a high-priced free agent, because it's harder to fix if the rumors are all true.  A cheap player, sure, you can cut him easily.

But also, Bradley makes $15 million over the next two seasons, while Lance makes $18 million.  That's 20% more.  And if Lance is as wonderful a bargain as you think he is, and he may be, he'll make a lot more from 2016-2018, when Bradley is scheduled to make $17 million.  If he puts the locker room antics behind himself, Lance should probably wind up making on average $3-4 million more per season over the 4 years of Bradley's contract, or near 50% more.  If he doesn't, it's because NBA teams just don't think he's worth the trouble.

In a professional league, lockeroom stuff SHOULD NOT matter.  It's what the guy does on the court.  If he's a headache in the lockerroom but and star on the court, people need to get over it.  They are all professionals and shouldnt be coddled becasue someone rubs them the wrong way.  I would have rather had Lance over Bradley.  Terrible decision by Ainge.

Re: Stephenson signs with Charlotte
« Reply #37 on: July 16, 2014, 08:50:11 AM »

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And another opportunity for us that we never took advantage of ::).  Thanks Danny

You know signing Lance for us will only be via S&T...
and Lance need to agree on the offer and other team to agree on  S&T...

it's not like:
DA: "Hey Lance! sign with us!"
Lance: "Sure! why not! screw CBA!"

So if Bradley would not have been signed, would it still have been a sign and trade?

Re: Stephenson signs with Charlotte
« Reply #38 on: July 16, 2014, 08:54:26 AM »

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And another opportunity for us that we never took advantage of ::).  Thanks Danny

You know signing Lance for us will only be via S&T...
and Lance need to agree on the offer and other team to agree on  S&T...

it's not like:
DA: "Hey Lance! sign with us!"
Lance: "Sure! why not! screw CBA!"

So if Bradley would not have been signed, would it still have been a sign and trade?

Yes. We didn't have cap space for him. We had to let the Pierce trade exception expire, and make some other trades to clear cap space.

Sorry, all that maneuvering wasn't going to happen.

Re: Stephenson signs with Charlotte
« Reply #39 on: July 16, 2014, 08:58:54 AM »

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And another opportunity for us that we never took advantage of ::).  Thanks Danny

You know signing Lance for us will only be via S&T...
and Lance need to agree on the offer and other team to agree on  S&T...

it's not like:
DA: "Hey Lance! sign with us!"
Lance: "Sure! why not! screw CBA!"

So if Bradley would not have been signed, would it still have been a sign and trade?

Yes. We didn't have cap space for him. We had to let the Pierce trade exception expire, and make some other trades to clear cap space.

Sorry, all that maneuvering wasn't going to happen.

ok.  Well jeez, thanks.  Didnt realize danny was that handcuffed with moeny.  The way it sounded he had all kinds of cap room to work with.  Well, I hope he at least tried to get stephenson, because imo he's still better than Bradley.

Re: Stephenson signs with Charlotte
« Reply #40 on: July 16, 2014, 08:59:03 AM »

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Good for Charlotte. They are building a nice little squad over there. That's a nice young back court they have there with Kemba/Lance and gives them a nice trio on offense (Kemba/LS/Big Al).

As for the LS deal, he basically took a 2 year deal and is waiting to hit it big in 2016. Smart (but dangerous) move on his part. In Charlotte, he might shoulder more of the scoring burden so his numbers might jump.

I would have liked t see LS in green but we really never had a shot. We would have to do a sign n trade and it takes 3 parties to work that out. Again, kudos to Charlotte (who on earth ever thought we'd be saying that!!!).

I wonder if they make a bid for Boozer as well.

Re: Stephenson signs with Charlotte
« Reply #41 on: July 16, 2014, 09:07:45 AM »

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And another opportunity for us that we never took advantage of ::).  Thanks Danny

You know signing Lance for us will only be via S&T...
and Lance need to agree on the offer and other team to agree on  S&T...

it's not like:
DA: "Hey Lance! sign with us!"
Lance: "Sure! why not! screw CBA!"

So if Bradley would not have been signed, would it still have been a sign and trade?

Yes. We didn't have cap space for him. We had to let the Pierce trade exception expire, and make some other trades to clear cap space.

Sorry, all that maneuvering wasn't going to happen.

ok.  Well jeez, thanks.  Didnt realize danny was that handcuffed with moeny.  The way it sounded he had all kinds of cap room to work with.  Well, I hope he at least tried to get stephenson, because imo he's still better than Bradley.

It sounded like that because few people here bother to at least try to gain basic understanding of the CBA at the very least :) So misinformation gets perpetuated.

Next year is when we'll have real cap space to work with. Hope something significant falls into our lap.

Re: Stephenson signs with Charlotte
« Reply #42 on: July 16, 2014, 09:09:27 AM »

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brooklyn nets should be the ECF champions
they did not resign pierce, its a big loss for them
i don't think bulls winning it without a legit SG and SF

Re: Stephenson signs with Charlotte
« Reply #43 on: July 16, 2014, 09:10:16 AM »

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This calls for another draft pick.

Re: Stephenson signs with Charlotte
« Reply #44 on: July 16, 2014, 09:11:54 AM »

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I like Charlotte's team....I think the Cavs will win the East but it's literally wide open....you can make a case for 5 or 6 teams going to the finals...

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