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Re: Draft performers so far
« Reply #15 on: July 16, 2014, 03:42:43 AM »

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Doug Mcdermott the next Reggie Miller guys!  ;)

I had a feeling that McDermott would be a better NBA scorer than people predicted.  The type of numbers he put up in college aren't the type of numbers you can put up just by being a pure spot-up shooter and nothing else (e.g. Korver). 

To dominate at the college level the way he did (to the tune of 28 PPG or so) you need to be able to score in multiple ways.  His size at the SF position (6'8" - 6'9") will give him an advantage on many nights, because when he's up against 6'5" and 6'6" SF's he'll be able to shoot right over them, or back them down in the post.  Plus if players run hard at him, he's got the ability to put is on the court and drive to the basket.  He's a pretty complete offensive player.

I don't necessarily expect him to continue to be a 20 PPG scorer in the actual NBA season, but I do think he'll be a very productive scorer much like Mike Miller and Wally Sczerbiak were in their primes.
Adam Morrison averaged 28 ppg in his last college season. Just sayin'

People tend to forget Adam had type 1 diabetes since early age. I'd rather call someone that played in the NBA and had insulin injections every other timeout a hero, rather than a bust.

I don't mean to start this discussion, but I really hate that particular comparison.

On Doug, he is exactly what the doctors prescribed for the Bulls.
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Re: Draft performers so far
« Reply #16 on: July 16, 2014, 05:13:17 AM »

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Doug Mcdermott the next Reggie Miller guys!  ;)

I had a feeling that McDermott would be a better NBA scorer than people predicted.  The type of numbers he put up in college aren't the type of numbers you can put up just by being a pure spot-up shooter and nothing else (e.g. Korver). 

To dominate at the college level the way he did (to the tune of 28 PPG or so) you need to be able to score in multiple ways.  His size at the SF position (6'8" - 6'9") will give him an advantage on many nights, because when he's up against 6'5" and 6'6" SF's he'll be able to shoot right over them, or back them down in the post.  Plus if players run hard at him, he's got the ability to put is on the court and drive to the basket.  He's a pretty complete offensive player.

I don't necessarily expect him to continue to be a 20 PPG scorer in the actual NBA season, but I do think he'll be a very productive scorer much like Mike Miller and Wally Sczerbiak were in their primes.

hmmmmm i don't know man... all i can see about McBuckets was that he's a great shooter
he's not athletic and very poor defensively... I imagine hims as Steve Novak maybe I'm wrong and maybe he can evolve as Klay Thompson... or Steph Curry.....
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Re: Draft performers so far
« Reply #17 on: July 16, 2014, 05:13:30 AM »

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Doug Mcdermott the next Reggie Miller guys!  ;)

I had a feeling that McDermott would be a better NBA scorer than people predicted.  The type of numbers he put up in college aren't the type of numbers you can put up just by being a pure spot-up shooter and nothing else (e.g. Korver). 

To dominate at the college level the way he did (to the tune of 28 PPG or so) you need to be able to score in multiple ways.  His size at the SF position (6'8" - 6'9") will give him an advantage on many nights, because when he's up against 6'5" and 6'6" SF's he'll be able to shoot right over them, or back them down in the post.  Plus if players run hard at him, he's got the ability to put is on the court and drive to the basket.  He's a pretty complete offensive player.

I don't necessarily expect him to continue to be a 20 PPG scorer in the actual NBA season, but I do think he'll be a very productive scorer much like Mike Miller and Wally Sczerbiak were in their primes.
Adam Morrison averaged 28 ppg in his last college season. Just sayin'

People tend to forget Adam had type 1 diabetes since early age. I'd rather call someone that played in the NBA and had insulin injections every other timeout a hero, rather than a bust.

I don't mean to start this discussion, but I really hate that particular comparison.

On Doug, he is exactly what the doctors prescribed for the Bulls.

Type 1 is the worst. Diabetes has hurt my family in many ways.


Re: Draft performers so far
« Reply #18 on: July 16, 2014, 05:18:29 AM »

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I completely agree.  I had a similar thread a few days ago in which I was trying to present the same argument...

TP.

Yup I remember your post. What is good to see from Smart is his ft%83%. He still has the dip in his shot , but once he clears that I believe he will be a deadly 3point shooter.


Re: Draft performers so far
« Reply #19 on: July 16, 2014, 05:23:11 AM »

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I really wanted TJ Warren at #17 or in a trade up. He would have been perfect for the Cs offense and he's lighting it up in the SL. I'm pretty sure that the Cs would have taken him at #17. He's a legitimate rookie of the year candidate at this point.

Re: Draft performers so far
« Reply #20 on: July 16, 2014, 05:49:36 AM »

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Doug Mcdermott the next Reggie Miller guys!  ;)

I had a feeling that McDermott would be a better NBA scorer than people predicted.  The type of numbers he put up in college aren't the type of numbers you can put up just by being a pure spot-up shooter and nothing else (e.g. Korver). 

To dominate at the college level the way he did (to the tune of 28 PPG or so) you need to be able to score in multiple ways.  His size at the SF position (6'8" - 6'9") will give him an advantage on many nights, because when he's up against 6'5" and 6'6" SF's he'll be able to shoot right over them, or back them down in the post.  Plus if players run hard at him, he's got the ability to put is on the court and drive to the basket.  He's a pretty complete offensive player.

I don't necessarily expect him to continue to be a 20 PPG scorer in the actual NBA season, but I do think he'll be a very productive scorer much like Mike Miller and Wally Sczerbiak were in their primes.

hmmmmm i don't know man... all i can see about McBuckets was that he's a great shooter
he's not athletic and very poor defensively... I imagine hims as Steve Novak maybe I'm wrong and maybe he can evolve as Klay Thompson... or Steph Curry.....
There couldn't be a worse comparison than Steve Novak.  McDermott scores from all over the court.  Novak scores from exactly one spot.  I believe Novak went just about a whole year without making a layup and averages less than 14 free throws...per year!

Re: Draft performers so far
« Reply #21 on: July 16, 2014, 06:29:17 AM »

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McDermott has been excellent thus far.  I don't think he's going to be scoring anywhere close to what he's doing in the regular season (going out on a ledge) but even against better defenders, he's going to be able to make threes because he needs such little time and space.

I didn't buy the Kyle Korver comparisons because I didn't think McDermott ran around as many screens but he's looking like Korver.  He even has that little quick bounce pass to the screen setter that all the great screen runners like Ray, Klay, Korver, Rip Hamilton and Durant have in their arsenal.  He's also a really quick study because in the first two games, he was not executing that pass.  Bigs were able to hedge towards him without him making them pay.  By the third game, he was.

Re: Draft performers so far
« Reply #22 on: July 16, 2014, 07:46:21 AM »

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Smarts putting up numbers on par or better than some of the picks a lot of other people wanted over him. Which is nice to see, we may have a player on our hands. Heck right now he's shooting better 3's than Parker! LOL.

I know the stats don't show everything. I know Wiggins looked better in that first game than the numbers shown. Didn't catch the last game.

Some one said some thing about Hood, and missing out on him. I wanted Hood as well. Hood had 29 that first game. I turned on the game too late last night but the commentators said his tweet followers jump 4 thousand after the first, but may have lost 3 thousand after last nights game. Or something to that effect. He still should be a good player.

I do wish we could have seen Young after all the "killing" in work out talks. Just have to wait til preseason I guess.

Re: Draft performers so far
« Reply #23 on: July 16, 2014, 09:34:32 AM »

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Jordan Clarkson is going to be the steal of the draft when its all said and done. Too bad he's a Laker...

It sure looks that way, but like another thread was talking about yesterday there is a lot of one on one ball in summer league. We will have to wait to see how he fits on to a team with Kobe and Swaggy P. He is playing lights out right now though.

Re: Draft performers so far
« Reply #24 on: July 17, 2014, 06:11:42 AM »

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durability factor has to go to smart as guard that has always gone up against bigs-wiggins,exum,gordon even jabari are going to have new experience at this level- smart bradley and rondo will tire guards having to beat a smart or bradley and then face bigs will throw off all but the best-

Re: Draft performers so far
« Reply #25 on: July 17, 2014, 02:38:32 PM »

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Doug Mcdermott the next Reggie Miller guys!  ;)

I had a feeling that McDermott would be a better NBA scorer than people predicted.  The type of numbers he put up in college aren't the type of numbers you can put up just by being a pure spot-up shooter and nothing else (e.g. Korver). 

To dominate at the college level the way he did (to the tune of 28 PPG or so) you need to be able to score in multiple ways.  His size at the SF position (6'8" - 6'9") will give him an advantage on many nights, because when he's up against 6'5" and 6'6" SF's he'll be able to shoot right over them, or back them down in the post.  Plus if players run hard at him, he's got the ability to put is on the court and drive to the basket.  He's a pretty complete offensive player.

I don't necessarily expect him to continue to be a 20 PPG scorer in the actual NBA season, but I do think he'll be a very productive scorer much like Mike Miller and Wally Sczerbiak were in their primes.
Adam Morrison averaged 28 ppg in his last college season. Just sayin'

People tend to forget Adam had type 1 diabetes since early age. I'd rather call someone that played in the NBA and had insulin injections every other timeout a hero, rather than a bust.

I don't mean to start this discussion, but I really hate that particular comparison.

On Doug, he is exactly what the doctors prescribed for the Bulls.
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Re: Draft performers so far
« Reply #26 on: July 17, 2014, 02:46:56 PM »

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McDermott is bound to come down to earth a bit. 21 of his 33 shots have been threes, and he's made 52% on them. This is not sustainable.

It also throws a bit of a wrench in the argument that he's "more than just a spot-up shooter" :P
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Re: Draft performers so far
« Reply #27 on: July 17, 2014, 03:26:03 PM »

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my god look at those shooting percentages.  hope this calms some folks down just a little bit about Smarts shooting thus far.

Bad fg% but efg% considerably better due to FTs. Also mitigated by being only player in the group with more steals than TOs. These sorts of small sample sizes don't mean much but fwiw he's been probably the best rookie in the SL.

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« Reply #28 on: July 17, 2014, 03:30:59 PM »

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TP to the OP for the stats. I am happy with Smart's performance so far. I cant wait to see what he does in the real games.

Re: Draft performers so far
« Reply #29 on: July 17, 2014, 03:34:01 PM »

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There are only two players on that list with a higher shooting percentage than Mike Moser.