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Celtics are in limbo
« on: July 15, 2014, 10:43:27 AM »

Offline PaulAllen

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The more I look at the state of the Celtics and how the NBA free agency and the trading scene has transpired this team is in serious limbo..

So what can the Celtics really do now? not much.. they can offer Lance Stevenson 12 mil a year.. sign Evan Turner with a mle.. what will that do longterm?

It looks like all of their assets are just undetermined.. The value of Jeff Green, Jared Sullinger, KO and even Marcus Smart are lesser than what most of us anticipated. Most thought that a Sully few draft picks and fillers would land Love but not at all the case.. They still have a shot at Love but not until the deadline..

Basically I think Ainge plays the year out and sees where this team is at the trade deadline.. If they play above expectations and make a playoff push then maybe Love will be an option.. Minnesota holds the cards right now because there is not rush to trade him now.. If he lasts until the deadline then the Celtics original offer looks good... On the other hand if they look like rebuilding phase 2.0 then they have no choice but to trade Rondo.. He will be big in the open market and will probably get a max somewhere, although the Celtics can pay him the most but I doubt he wants to go through a rebuilding period.

So maybe one of these players can really take their value to another level? Jeff Green averging 20 ppg.. Sullinger a double double averge.. The picks ? however I think draft picks are the most overrated asset the Celtics own.. They are good for team who are willing to dump salary but if you look around there are no teams willing to dump all star caliber players to save money at this point.. The Celtics best shot was the 6th pick in a good draft... that has passed unless someone really likes Smart.

For the most part the Celtics offseason is over, time to play it out and see where it goes...

Re: Celtics are in limbo
« Reply #1 on: July 15, 2014, 10:58:16 AM »

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signing Stephenson would be about the worst thing this team could do right now. it's too bad too because i actually want him.

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« Reply #2 on: July 15, 2014, 11:05:25 AM »

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Well its an evaluation if DA thinks he can take off... Look at a player like James Harden, when made the top option he broke out.. Is Stevenson that type of player? its a good gamble at 10-12/yr

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« Reply #3 on: July 15, 2014, 11:06:25 AM »

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signing Stephenson would be about the worst thing this team could do right now. it's too bad too because i actually want him.

That's generally how I feel, too.
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« Reply #4 on: July 15, 2014, 11:07:41 AM »

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The Celtics are being patient. This year's Free Agency is not the be all - and all fix, although I'm sure Danny is finding ways to do things to make the turn around quicker.

We have assets, and plenty of it. Danny is being patient not to make moves that would hinder us to make even bigger moves. Just because we didnt sign a marquee free agent this year doesnt mean there's no room for improvement.

Chill out. It may not be the year we are expecting, but it could be by the next, or who knows, maybe by February it will be fixed.
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« Reply #5 on: July 15, 2014, 11:07:41 AM »

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Well its an evaluation if DA thinks he can take off... Look at a player like James Harden, when made the top option he broke out.. Is Stevenson that type of player? its a good gamble at 10-12/yr
Houston got wrecked in the playoffs. How did harden break out

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« Reply #6 on: July 15, 2014, 11:09:49 AM »

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Well its an evaluation if DA thinks he can take off... Look at a player like James Harden, when made the top option he broke out.. Is Stevenson that type of player? its a good gamble at 10-12/yr
Houston got wrecked in the playoffs. How did harden break out

Top 5 scorer in the league..thats how

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« Reply #7 on: July 15, 2014, 11:12:08 AM »

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Having plenty of cap room flexibility going forward and having a crapload of 1st round picks in the future disagrees with the limbo assessment.

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« Reply #8 on: July 15, 2014, 11:14:28 AM »

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DA is being very cautious... and it's not only the Cs that are chasing FAs.. i think we're fighiting against the Rockets/Hornets in signing Lance...

I look at this way, I prefer the cautious DA on his silent fireworks than Morey which is trying to hard to make a fireworks but ended up at the losing end
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« Reply #9 on: July 15, 2014, 11:16:36 AM »

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Having plenty of cap room flexibility going forward and having a crapload of 1st round picks in the future disagrees with the limbo assessment.

Caproom is great but how many big names free agents sign with Boston in the last 20 years.. The biggest name was Dominque Wilkins in his final days.. Big name players want to win along with getting their money.. Those first round picks are not worth as much as you think .. especially the Clippers and Cavs picks

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« Reply #10 on: July 15, 2014, 11:19:08 AM »

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Having plenty of cap room flexibility going forward and having a crapload of 1st round picks in the future disagrees with the limbo assessment.

Caproom is great but how many big names free agents sign with Boston in the last 20 years.. The biggest name was Dominque Wilkins in his final days.. Big name players want to win along with getting their money.. Those first round picks are not worth as much as you think .. especially the Clippers and Cavs picks

Beating a dead horse here but when have the Celtics actually had the cap room to sign a "big name" star over the past 20 years?


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« Reply #11 on: July 15, 2014, 11:20:41 AM »

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Also as far as future picks the Nets in 2016-2018 my be lucrative however its unforeseen since its 2 years away..

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« Reply #12 on: July 15, 2014, 11:22:03 AM »

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Having plenty of cap room flexibility going forward and having a crapload of 1st round picks in the future disagrees with the limbo assessment.

Caproom is great but how many big names free agents sign with Boston in the last 20 years.. The biggest name was Dominque Wilkins in his final days.. Big name players want to win along with getting their money.. Those first round picks are not worth as much as you think .. especially the Clippers and Cavs picks

Beating a dead horse here but when have the Celtics actually had the cap room to sign a "big name" star over the past 20 years?

this year or almost any year... its called sign and trade

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« Reply #13 on: July 15, 2014, 11:24:01 AM »

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Also as far as future picks the Nets in 2016-2018 my be lucrative however its unforeseen since its 2 years away..

Uncertainty about the future and in limbo are two different things.

Teams that are in limbo are there because they don't have the means to improve themselves often because they got stuck on big/long contracts with no cap flexibility or they don't have enough picks to either improve the talent or make worthwhile trades.

From that standpoint, the Celtics are more than solid. Will it all materialize into a championship contender? Who knows, but stuck we aren't...there's just uncertainty of what we'll get out of all these moves.

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« Reply #14 on: July 15, 2014, 11:26:40 AM »

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Limbo was just referred to this year, maybe next..