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DA / Catastrophic Mistake
« on: July 11, 2014, 02:14:29 PM »

Offline rutzan

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let me preface this by saying that i am a big DA supporter...i actually think he has been brilliant...

with that said...

the oldest rule in the book...you NEVER trade in your division or conference...

DA opened the door for lebron and love to cleveland with the zeller trade...if you disagree...prove to me that there was another way for cleveland to clear cap space with the wave of a TPE...

bron is 29...love is 25...irving is 22...we will not sniff the Finals for 5 to 7 years...barring injuries in cleveland...

i know...you're going to say you can't control what other teams do...you have to do what makes your team better...i'll never buy that argument...you NEVER trade in your division or conference...oldest rule in the book...
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Re: DA / Catastrophic Mistake
« Reply #1 on: July 11, 2014, 02:15:39 PM »

Offline rondoallaturca

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I suppose we shouldn't have fleeced the Nets last year then. Getting all those first round draft picks was such a boneheaded move by Ainge.
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Re: DA / Catastrophic Mistake
« Reply #2 on: July 11, 2014, 02:16:45 PM »

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If it wasn't the Celtics, it would have been someone else. It was a good move by Danny.
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Re: DA / Catastrophic Mistake
« Reply #3 on: July 11, 2014, 02:17:14 PM »

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strongly disagree. We helped Cleveland hurt Miami. It's not clear that the new beast is scarier than the old beast, but it is 100% clear that we took a cut from the transaction.
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Re: DA / Catastrophic Mistake
« Reply #4 on: July 11, 2014, 02:17:33 PM »

Offline manl_lui

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so I guess we should've let the trade exception expire then
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Re: DA / Catastrophic Mistake
« Reply #5 on: July 11, 2014, 02:18:03 PM »

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Quote from: rondoallaturca on July 11, 2014, 02:15:39 PM
I suppose we shouldn't have fleeced the Nets last year then. Getting all those first round draft picks was such a boneheaded move by Ainge.

Well said.
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Re: DA / Catastrophic Mistake
« Reply #6 on: July 11, 2014, 02:18:42 PM »

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Quote from: knuckleballer on July 11, 2014, 02:16:45 PM
If it wasn't the Celtics, it would have been someone else. It was a good move by Danny.

This is exactly what I was going to say.  If it wasn't the Celtics, it would have been a rival that picked up Zeller / #1 / expiring contract.

The only thing I regret is that we couldn't squeeze the #1 that Cleveland owns from Miami out of them.
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Re: DA / Catastrophic Mistake
« Reply #7 on: July 11, 2014, 02:19:42 PM »

Offline Waew

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There's many other teams like Philly that would love to take contracts in exchange for draft picks.  There's 29 other teams in the league.
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Re: DA / Catastrophic Mistake
« Reply #8 on: July 11, 2014, 02:20:02 PM »

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Quote from: Roy H. on July 11, 2014, 02:18:42 PM
Quote from: knuckleballer on July 11, 2014, 02:16:45 PM
If it wasn't the Celtics, it would have been someone else. It was a good move by Danny.

This is exactly what I was going to say.  If it wasn't the Celtics, it would have been a rival that picked up Zeller / #1 / expiring contract.

The only thing I regret is that we couldn't squeeze the #1 that Cleveland owns from Miami out of them.

So Miami owes Cleveland some future picks for getting Lebron. Those could become good picks now!
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Re: DA / Catastrophic Mistake
« Reply #9 on: July 11, 2014, 02:20:11 PM »

Offline rutzan

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there is NO connection between the Nets trade last year and the zeller trade this year...NONE...and yes...i would let the TPE expire...once again...someone PROVE to me that clevaland had another TPE or trade out to clear the cap space...
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« Reply #10 on: July 11, 2014, 02:21:39 PM »

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Quote from: rutzan on July 11, 2014, 02:14:29 PM


bron is 29...love is 25...irving is 22...we will not sniff the Finals for 5 to 7 years...barring injuries in cleveland...

I love how Irving is now the equal of Wade 4 years ago and Love is as good as Bosh, despite neither of them making the playoffs in their career.  Especially as Kyrie couldn't even lead the Cavs into the Eastern playoffs in a year where everybody was tanking their brains out.

Mike
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Re: DA / Catastrophic Mistake
« Reply #11 on: July 11, 2014, 02:22:04 PM »

Offline manl_lui

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Quote from: rutzan on July 11, 2014, 02:20:11 PM
there is NO connection between the Nets trade last year and the zeller trade this year...NONE...and yes...i would let the TPE expire...once again...someone PROVE to me that clevaland had another TPE or trade out to clear the cap space...

Edited.  Profanity and masked profanity are against forum rules and may result in discipline. are you talking about? That TPE used was from the Pierce trade exception who we TRADED TO THE NETS last year
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Re: DA / Catastrophic Mistake
« Reply #12 on: July 11, 2014, 02:23:03 PM »

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Yeah I'm sure we were the only team that could have made this possible....
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Re: DA / Catastrophic Mistake
« Reply #13 on: July 11, 2014, 02:23:04 PM »

Offline rutzan

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i would take love over bosh any day of the week...that's a no-brainer...
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Re: DA / Catastrophic Mistake
« Reply #14 on: July 11, 2014, 02:23:32 PM »

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Quote from: knuckleballer on July 11, 2014, 02:16:45 PM
If it wasn't the Celtics, it would have been someone else. It was a good move by Danny.

I agree with this.  The C's weren't the only team with a TPE or non-guaranteed contracts.  Some other team would have stepped in.  If Lebron wanted to go back to Cleveland the Cavs were going to make it work somehow.

DA has no control over how the lotto balls fall.  Wiggins is really the main thing that makes it appear right now that Love is going to get moved to Cleveland. 
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