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Re: Granger agreed to a 2 year deal with the Heat
« Reply #15 on: July 07, 2014, 03:50:26 PM »

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Scrambling and Gambling - Miami are right now. Riley desperately trying to make any type of low budget moves he can to convince Big Three to return.
Yup.

Might work, but man oh man this isn't he sort of upgrade LeBron was looking for when he opted out.

Granger has looked D-O-N-E since his injury and if he thought he could still play, he'd be looking for a one year deal somewhere he can get a lot of court time to prove himself and get that final big contract.

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Re: Granger agreed to a 2 year deal with the Heat
« Reply #16 on: July 07, 2014, 03:50:35 PM »

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How the mighty Heat have fallen  :P

Hoping the Celtics make some signings soon though. Jordan Hill and Kent Bazemore/Isaiah Thomas preferably
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Re: Granger to Heat
« Reply #17 on: July 07, 2014, 03:51:26 PM »

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Free agent Danny Granger has agreed to a two-year, $4.2 million deal with the Miami Heat, league sources tell Yahoo Sports.

This is the Bi-Annual exception.  Combined with the McRoberts deal earlier reported, Miami is now limited to the minimum salary for any free agents other than their own (unless the Big 3 break up).



Not if Wade and Bosh agree to pay cuts.
BIG paycuts.

I don't see that happening to land such paltry pieces.

These Granger + McRoberts contracts would count against that cap too, wouldn't they?

I thought verbal agreements are counted towards cap. Not 100% but that was my understanding. Hard to prove if kept hush-hush but when publicized like this they will be just about impossible to argue against.

So that would be almost $8 million wiped off their cap for McRoberts + Granger even if Bosh, LeBron and Wade agreed to paycuts.

Re: Granger agreed to a 2 year deal with the Heat
« Reply #18 on: July 07, 2014, 03:51:29 PM »

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Broken down Granger, Wade, Haslem and whomever else vs up and comers like Wiggins, Irving, Thomson, Bennett, Waiters. . . ?

I'd take the fresh legs all the way. That's what L.James needs anyways. Youthful legs, athletic guys that can take the brunt off his shoulders at times during the season.

Granger has some appeal, but not much if you're L.James.

Re: Granger agreed to a 2 year deal with the Heat
« Reply #19 on: July 07, 2014, 03:52:12 PM »

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Carmelo and Lowry are scrubs compared to the mighty Danny Granger and Josh Mcroberts! Come back to Miami Lebron!

Re: Granger to Heat
« Reply #20 on: July 07, 2014, 03:54:34 PM »

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Free agent Danny Granger has agreed to a two-year, $4.2 million deal with the Miami Heat, league sources tell Yahoo Sports.

This is the Bi-Annual exception.  Combined with the McRoberts deal earlier reported, Miami is now limited to the minimum salary for any free agents other than their own (unless the Big 3 break up).



Not if Wade and Bosh agree to pay cuts.

Bosh isn't agreeing to enough of a pay cut to matter.  The Heat currently have committed about $10.3 million to four players next year (Cole, Napier, McRoberts, and Granger).  LeBron gets his $20.6 million.  That's now $31 mil for 5. Say Wade takes $12 million.  That's $43 mil for six players.  Bosh would have to get Wade money before they had any real room to sign another free agent, and even then, they'd only have about another $5 mil to spend, once you account for roster holds.  No way is Bosh taking $12 mil when he's offered $20 mil somewhere else.  Maybe he'd take $17-18, but that won't get them anywhere.

Re: Granger to Heat
« Reply #21 on: July 07, 2014, 03:54:37 PM »

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Free agent Danny Granger has agreed to a two-year, $4.2 million deal with the Miami Heat, league sources tell Yahoo Sports.

This is the Bi-Annual exception.  Combined with the McRoberts deal earlier reported, Miami is now limited to the minimum salary for any free agents other than their own (unless the Big 3 break up).



Not if Wade and Bosh agree to pay cuts.
BIG paycuts.

I don't see that happening to land such paltry pieces.

These Granger + McRoberts contracts would count against that cap too, wouldn't they?

I thought verbal agreements are counted towards cap. Not 100% but that was my understanding. Hard to prove if kept hush-hush but when publicized like this they will be just about impossible to argue against.

So that would be almost $8 million wiped off their cap for McRoberts + Granger even if Bosh, LeBron and Wade agreed to paycuts.

If Bosh is told to accept a paycut in order to stay in Miami, then no doubt he will choose Houston's max offer. Playing with Harden-Howard-Parsons, and getting the max. Very tempting and ideal.
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Re: Granger agreed to a 2 year deal with the Heat
« Reply #22 on: July 07, 2014, 03:56:15 PM »

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Also, Granger is an Indy favorite. I know some fans who liked him almost as much as Reggie. I'm fairly certain most would have liked to see him go back on a discount, even if it limited even more of their already limited cap space. I can already see the bitterness.

Re: Granger to Heat
« Reply #23 on: July 07, 2014, 04:03:36 PM »

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Free agent Danny Granger has agreed to a two-year, $4.2 million deal with the Miami Heat, league sources tell Yahoo Sports.

This is the Bi-Annual exception.  Combined with the McRoberts deal earlier reported, Miami is now limited to the minimum salary for any free agents other than their own (unless the Big 3 break up).



Not if Wade and Bosh agree to pay cuts.

Bosh isn't agreeing to enough of a pay cut to matter.  The Heat currently have committed about $10.3 million to four players next year (Cole, Napier, McRoberts, and Granger).  LeBron gets his $20.6 million.  That's now $31 mil for 5. Say Wade takes $12 million.  That's $43 mil for six players.  Bosh would have to get Wade money before they had any real room to sign another free agent, and even then, they'd only have about another $5 mil to spend, once you account for roster holds.  No way is Bosh taking $12 mil when he's offered $20 mil somewhere else.  Maybe he'd take $17-18, but that won't get them anywhere.

If McRoberts and Granger are agreeing to accept the MLE and BAE respectively, those do not count against the 63.2 cap. These reports are agreements only, not official signings.

They can pursue let's say Gasol or Ariza at 8M and another FA at 3M. That's 11M for the two. That along with Lebron at 20M, Wade and Bosh at 15M each (just examples), Napier and Cole would put them at 63M. THEN when they are over the cap, they can officially sign McBob and Granger at the exception amounts listed above.

Being the first ones to agree to contracts DOES NOT mean that they will be the ones who will "OFFICIALLY" sign.
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Re: Granger to Heat
« Reply #24 on: July 07, 2014, 04:04:41 PM »

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Free agent Danny Granger has agreed to a two-year, $4.2 million deal with the Miami Heat, league sources tell Yahoo Sports.

This is the Bi-Annual exception.  Combined with the McRoberts deal earlier reported, Miami is now limited to the minimum salary for any free agents other than their own (unless the Big 3 break up).



Not if Wade and Bosh agree to pay cuts.

Bosh isn't agreeing to enough of a pay cut to matter.  The Heat currently have committed about $10.3 million to four players next year (Cole, Napier, McRoberts, and Granger).  LeBron gets his $20.6 million.  That's now $31 mil for 5. Say Wade takes $12 million.  That's $43 mil for six players.  Bosh would have to get Wade money before they had any real room to sign another free agent, and even then, they'd only have about another $5 mil to spend, once you account for roster holds.  No way is Bosh taking $12 mil when he's offered $20 mil somewhere else.  Maybe he'd take $17-18, but that won't get them anywhere.

If McRoberts and Granger are agreeing to accept the MLE and BAE respectively, those do not count against the 63.2 cap. These reports are agreements only, not official signings.

They can pursue let's say Gasol or Ariza at 8M and another FA at 3M. That's 11M for the two. That along with Lebron at 20M, Wade and Bosh at 15M each (just examples), Napier and Cole would put them at 63M. THEN when they are over the cap, they can officially sign McBob and Granger at the exception amounts listed above.

Being the first ones to agree to contracts DOES NOT mean that they will be the ones who will "OFFICIALLY" sign.

Exceptions are counted against the cap via a cap hold, I believe. I know the MLE does, for sure.

Meaning, there is a placeholder on the Heat's books right now for "MLE" with no name attached to it.
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Re: Granger to Heat
« Reply #25 on: July 07, 2014, 04:05:49 PM »

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Free agent Danny Granger has agreed to a two-year, $4.2 million deal with the Miami Heat, league sources tell Yahoo Sports.

This is the Bi-Annual exception.  Combined with the McRoberts deal earlier reported, Miami is now limited to the minimum salary for any free agents other than their own (unless the Big 3 break up).



Not if Wade and Bosh agree to pay cuts.
BIG paycuts.

I don't see that happening to land such paltry pieces.

These Granger + McRoberts contracts would count against that cap too, wouldn't they?

I thought verbal agreements are counted towards cap. Not 100% but that was my understanding. Hard to prove if kept hush-hush but when publicized like this they will be just about impossible to argue against.

So that would be almost $8 million wiped off their cap for McRoberts + Granger even if Bosh, LeBron and Wade agreed to paycuts.

If Bosh is told to accept a paycut in order to stay in Miami, then no doubt he will choose Houston's max offer. Playing with Harden-Howard-Parsons, and getting the max. Very tempting and ideal.

I really hope Bosh stays. If Bosh leaves, it means they now have available cap room for two or three among Gasol, Deng, Ariza, Thomas.

Lebron at 20M, Wade at 15M, Cole and Napier would account for around 38M. That means they would have 24M to spend on a combination of the four I listed above then officially sign Granger and McRoberts to the BAE and MLE. I hope that does not happen.
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Re: Granger agreed to a 2 year deal with the Heat
« Reply #26 on: July 07, 2014, 04:06:13 PM »

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Granger is not what he used to be. In my opinion he hasn't been the same player after that knee injury. If I was LeBron, I would head straight to Cleveland ::)
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Re: Granger agreed to a 2 year deal with the Heat
« Reply #27 on: July 07, 2014, 04:07:34 PM »

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I think bosh is gone... And maybe James. Riley is scrambling, but I think he already knows he's gonna need some players either way. Maybe Riley has Anthony on the way, and James told bosh to go get his max somewhere else. I don't see bosh turning down Houston.

Re: Granger agreed to a 2 year deal with the Heat
« Reply #28 on: July 07, 2014, 04:08:16 PM »

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Is riley panicking?

Re: Granger to Heat
« Reply #29 on: July 07, 2014, 04:09:23 PM »

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Free agent Danny Granger has agreed to a two-year, $4.2 million deal with the Miami Heat, league sources tell Yahoo Sports.

This is the Bi-Annual exception.  Combined with the McRoberts deal earlier reported, Miami is now limited to the minimum salary for any free agents other than their own (unless the Big 3 break up).



Not if Wade and Bosh agree to pay cuts.

Bosh isn't agreeing to enough of a pay cut to matter.  The Heat currently have committed about $10.3 million to four players next year (Cole, Napier, McRoberts, and Granger).  LeBron gets his $20.6 million.  That's now $31 mil for 5. Say Wade takes $12 million.  That's $43 mil for six players.  Bosh would have to get Wade money before they had any real room to sign another free agent, and even then, they'd only have about another $5 mil to spend, once you account for roster holds.  No way is Bosh taking $12 mil when he's offered $20 mil somewhere else.  Maybe he'd take $17-18, but that won't get them anywhere.

If McRoberts and Granger are agreeing to accept the MLE and BAE respectively, those do not count against the 63.2 cap. These reports are agreements only, not official signings.

They can pursue let's say Gasol or Ariza at 8M and another FA at 3M. That's 11M for the two. That along with Lebron at 20M, Wade and Bosh at 15M each (just examples), Napier and Cole would put them at 63M. THEN when they are over the cap, they can officially sign McBob and Granger at the exception amounts listed above.

Being the first ones to agree to contracts DOES NOT mean that they will be the ones who will "OFFICIALLY" sign.

Exceptions are counted against the cap via a cap hold, I believe. I know the MLE does, for sure.

Meaning, there is a placeholder on the Heat's books right now for "MLE" with no name attached to it.

They count against the cap AFTER the 63.2 M available. There is no placeholder because players can not officially sign until July 10 or 11. These are verbal agreements with regards to McRoberts and Granger, not official signings.
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