Larry Sanders value will never be lower

[moiso]

His value could definitely go lower.  Another bad year and his contract will be Gerald Wallace "please take a draft pick to take my contract" bad.

[arctic 3.0]

I don't see how anyone could turn down swapping a few expirings for Saunders.
He has already demonstrated his potential as a consistently dominant center.
He is huge, agile and (aside from the freak injury season), healthy.

The off the court stuff is slightly troubling but not unexpected.
Honestly, most of us who were once young can remember an incident where we drank to much and crossed the line.
If that were you would you feel fairly treated to have that incessant define you and your future potential?
Imagine you got into a bar fight in college, imagine you were considered to have high potential in your field of study, imagine if a bunch of people who never met you started expressing "informed and definitive" opinions that you were a head case, a looser and would never amount to anything.
That would tick me off, it would make me want to redouble my efforts to prove the doubters wrong.

And as far as the Pot use goes... Come on, it's the NBA in the 21st century.
Some, if not most of your favorite celtics, are familiar with this particular herb.

[knuckleballer]

If we get Love, I hope we get Sanders.
If we continue rebuilding, then I'm not interested.  We don't need such a head case on a young team.

[Rakulp]

And as far as the Pot use goes... Come on, it's the NBA in the 21st century.
Some, if not most of your favorite celtics, are familiar with this particular herb.

Perhaps...but it doesn't mean I want him wearing the green.  Character issues and habits that never change define a person much more than how many blocks in a basketball game does.

I hope his time in rehab works...if it does, and Celtic management feel it has...then I would trust their judgment in giving him a shot.  Otherwise, I just hope he gets his life straightened out somewhere else.

Rak

[saltlover]

I would be fine with Larry Sanders at a cheap price.  I'm just not convinced the price is all that cheap.   The big who Milwaukee really wants to dump is more likely Ersan Ilyasova.

[pokeKingCurtis]

He's been in one bar fight and smoked some weed.

Just a bit of a hothead with a hazy past time.

[bobbyv]

Honestly we need a center so badly I'd take a chance on him.

[Celtics4ever]

That is not much of a fight.   A real fighter would have cleaned house in that fiasco.  Yes, it is disorderly and bad judgement but fight wise it was a scuffle.

[arctic 3.0]

And as far as the Pot use goes... Come on, it's the NBA in the 21st century.
Some, if not most of your favorite celtics, are familiar with this particular herb.

Perhaps...but it doesn't mean I want him wearing the green.  Character issues and habits that never change define a person much more than how many blocks in a basketball game does.

I hope his time in rehab works...if it does, and Celtic management feel it has...then I would trust their judgment in giving him a shot.  Otherwise, I just hope he gets his life straightened out somewhere else.

Rak

Someone posed a pic of a glass eyed KG and Rondo posing with snoop dog a while back.
Suppose it could have been a contact high but...

[ThaPreacher]

This is a great post! TP for both you and LarBrd33.  This is exactly the type of reclamation project Red Auerbach would have gone after. Looking at the data it's essential to note the importance of the interior defender.  The avg. hoop fan doesn't understand the value these guys have to a team.  I'd roll the dice.

[hwangjini_1]

from FCO///

"My opinion is that if everything went well after Sanders rehab and he got the help he needs, then this is one heck of a steal. But he could be a bad teammate and hurt the cohesion for our young group. Again, he could just need a fresh scene and a new coach, that is well known for his success with younger players."
________

the problem, of course, is that the solution may lie less with getting the help he needs than it does with that help actually changing his behavior in a positive way. the first is easy. the second is far, far murkier.

do a google search of article on the percentage of successful recoveries from alcoholism and you will see that it is very unclear how successful rehab is. heck, even the definition of success is problematic. successful in what terms? one year of no drinking? 5 years? a lifetime?

studies indicate that alcoholics with NO intervention basically stop drinking at a rate of around 24%.  that is, about 1 out of 4 wise up on their own.

for people in therapy, there is little systematic work done to track people AFTER they leave rehab, so reliable numbers are hard to get. but using AA examples, about 32% to 34% members have stopped drinking for at least 5 years. great! except that that number is for those who STAY IN AA. of those who walk away, no one knows for sure.

bottom line: rehab will not change sanders. only sanders will change sanders.

do we have evidence that he wishes to transform his life, stop drinking, turn over a new leaf, will follow the rehab and post-rehab regime? if so, then buy me a ticket for the trade-for-sanders express. if not, then book me a room in the vin-baker-suite of no thank you.

[GreenWarrior]

I have a hard time backing players who take their careers in pro sports for granted. I know this was just one incident but once is enough to raise some flags for me. his value is so low right now the bucks may as well keep him.

I would trade Wallace for him though. only cuz that dude is a complete waste of space.

[bknova]

The Pierce Trade Exception and the Philly pick....

[ScottishCeltic]

Larry would be a great signing for us. Perfect long center we need.

I would do Clippers 1st and Wallace, no problem.

[saltlover]

The Pierce Trade Exception and the Philly pick....

Won't work.  Meanders doesn't fit into TPE.