Time to hype up Kelly Olynyk

[Tr1boy]

Yet another impressive appearance in the summer league for Kelly Olynyk.  He showed off a toned up and more athletic body and the results showed on the court.  20 points 8 rebounds and 4 steals.

Boxscore:
http://i.imgur.com/y6kWcLI.png

I think it is becoming gradually obvious who the best PF on the Celtics roster is right now.  I would not be surprised if KO is not at MINIMUM a 15-7 player this season as long as he gets at least 25-30 minutes per game.  He can make shots from all ranges and his 7' size is always an advantage.

I think Olynyk could easily become a #2 option in an offense if he continues on this upward trend.

We're still lacking that #1 scoring option, but at least we have a couple of more pieces in Smart and Young, and KO should emerge for a breakout season in 2014.  Calling it right now!

Do I still want Love?  Yes.  Can we ship off some combination of Sully, Jeff Green, and 1st round picks for him?

while i hope you are right, i have doubts olly can put up 15 and 7 next season. let's have some context to help us here.

most seasons between 400 to 500 players are in the nba over the course of a season.

last year, a total of 14 players averaged at least 15 points and 7 rebounds. 14. that represents about 3% to 4% of the total number of players. not a lot.

will olly be so good as to rank among the top 4% of all players of the nba in scoring and rebounds? we can hope, but i wouldn't put money on it.

how about from 13-15 pts and 7 reb avg

KO will do that next season.

[nickagneta]

1. It was Summer League against a bunch of guys that probably won't be seeing any playing time in the league this coming year. He was great in Summer League last year two and stunk it up for the first 3 months of the season.

2. I really didn't see that much of a body transformation as some here are claiming. Hairdo was different and maybe his arms looked a bit more toned but you would think he was sucking down steroids at an amazing rate given the hype that was on this site yesterday extolling the virtues of Kelly's new Superman like body

3. Doesn't this kid get hyped enough on this site? Do we need yet another KO thread because he had a nice Summer League game. I will be a whole lot more impressed if he starts the season well.

Teams tend to play all out to start the year and then when teams start to separate themselves in quality as the year goes on, teams will tend to play worse against bad teams and great against good teams as the year progresses as they save themselves physically during the long season.

Kelly stunk to start last year and was a warrior to end the year. But no one was playing defense against the C's towards them end of the season because they knew the Celtics had a horrible offensive team. So what happens? Players tend to put up numbers.

If he starts this year strong and continues the year strong in his performances that's when the KO hype should begin. Why? Because teams will have had enough film on him and know he is a cog in the Celtics wheel that will need to be addressed and he won't get the "Ole" defensive effort that most teams were giving the Celtics and Olynyk towards the last 30 games or so of year

Sure, I am not Kelly's biggest fan. But he is a Celtic and I want him to do great. I just would hate to see people set up unrealistic expectations for the guy and then complain about the kid if all he does is get 9 PPG, 5 RPG, 1 APG and play poor defense.

That's what happen to Jeff Green last year. People were expecting 22-25 PPG and 6-8 RPG and outstanding defense and instead they got the same Jeff Green Jeff Green has always been. And people became sour on the guy.

So let's not hype Olynyk too much. How about we just hope for some development from his entire last year and not just growth over his last two weeks of the season where he was playing meaningless minutes in meaningless games where the other team was mailing in the defensive effort.

[hwangjini_1]

Yet another impressive appearance in the summer league for Kelly Olynyk.  He showed off a toned up and more athletic body and the results showed on the court.  20 points 8 rebounds and 4 steals.

Boxscore:
http://i.imgur.com/y6kWcLI.png

I think it is becoming gradually obvious who the best PF on the Celtics roster is right now.  I would not be surprised if KO is not at MINIMUM a 15-7 player this season as long as he gets at least 25-30 minutes per game.  He can make shots from all ranges and his 7' size is always an advantage.

I think Olynyk could easily become a #2 option in an offense if he continues on this upward trend.

We're still lacking that #1 scoring option, but at least we have a couple of more pieces in Smart and Young, and KO should emerge for a breakout season in 2014.  Calling it right now!

Do I still want Love?  Yes.  Can we ship off some combination of Sully, Jeff Green, and 1st round picks for him?

while i hope you are right, i have doubts olly can put up 15 and 7 next season. let's have some context to help us here.

most seasons between 400 to 500 players are in the nba over the course of a season.

last year, a total of 14 players averaged at least 15 points and 7 rebounds. 14. that represents about 3% to 4% of the total number of players. not a lot.

will olly be so good as to rank among the top 4% of all players of the nba in scoring and rebounds? we can hope, but i wouldn't put money on it.

how about from 13-15 pts and 7 reb avg

KO will do that next season.

if he does, then he would come close to matching sully. and if we can hype olly based on this, sully deserves some love as well. 

[SDHarleyguy]

If KO starts and/or plays starter minutes he will be a 20/10 guy. He is only beginning to show his power. He is a very unique player, and will change the league.
KL has peaked and never played a playoff game. He would be very costly, and deplete the assets of the team tremendously. His stats are blown out of proportion because he is the number one option offensively and he is not asked to play defense. His job is to crash the boards.
Trading KO for KL would be foolish beyond comparison. KO makes everyone around him better. KL needs people around him to be better...

[Sketch5]

If KO starts and/or plays starter minutes he will be a 20/10 guy. He is only beginning to show his power. He is a very unique player, and will change the league.
KL has peaked and never played a playoff game. He would be very costly, and deplete the assets of the team tremendously. His stats are blown out of proportion because he is the number one option offensively and he is not asked to play defense. His job is to crash the boards.
Trading KO for KL would be foolish beyond comparison. KO makes everyone around him better. KL needs people around him to be better...

I get you like him, and yes he's going to be a good player. and makes guys around him a bit better. Maybe All-Star level if he stays in the East, maybe. But, KO is going to change the league?

[hwangjini_1]

If KO starts and/or plays starter minutes he will be a 20/10 guy. He is only beginning to show his power. He is a very unique player, and will change the league.
KL has peaked and never played a playoff game. He would be very costly, and deplete the assets of the team tremendously. His stats are blown out of proportion because he is the number one option offensively and he is not asked to play defense. His job is to crash the boards.
Trading KO for KL would be foolish beyond comparison. KO makes everyone around him better. KL needs people around him to be better...

last season 5 players averaged 20 points and 10 rebounds. i doubt olly is so good as to join this select group.

[Celtics4ever]

He seems more serious about being in shape than Sullinger.

[dreamgreen]

Sign me up on the KO bandwagon, liked him since day 1.
15 and 7 IMO is very realistic for him, his scoring ability is much better than anyone else on the team. Looking forward to his second season and watching him grow.

[tstorey_97]

"What" is Olynyk?

I will insist he is not a "power forward." He is not big enough, fast enough or physical enough to be a starting PF. He has an inadequate reach to be a power forward.

Superb shooter, passer, floor flow guy. Beyond measure. Will be fine with a solid defense around him, but there will always be the danger of a mismatch and opposing coaches will play for this.

Olynyk is a sixth man...which by no means is an insult. If he is your team's starting power forward, your front court is going to get beat up by a lot of opposing front courts.

Olynyk is the ultimate summer league star because his IQ is unmatched and there isn't any competent front court defensive play in summer league.

The guy is a 7 ft two guard and potentially the best 7 ft two guard in the NBA....who do you want to be chuckin' shots this season? AB? Smart?.....I've been waiting for Olynyk to hang 40 points on a team some night, he certainly has it in him.

[NorthernLightning]

Olynyk isn't big enough to be a PF? 

You must still be stewing over the Celtics drafting him, and reaching for reasons to hate him.

[D.o.s.]

The guy is a 7 ft two guard and potentially the best 7 ft two guard in the NBA

[SHAQATTACK]

Yes ...

KO= new White Durrant

[aingeforthree]

1. It was Summer League against a bunch of guys that probably won't be seeing any playing time in the league this coming year. He was great in Summer League last year two and stunk it up for the first 3 months of the season.

2. I really didn't see that much of a body transformation as some here are claiming. Hairdo was different and maybe his arms looked a bit more toned but you would think he was sucking down steroids at an amazing rate given the hype that was on this site yesterday extolling the virtues of Kelly's new Superman like body

3. Doesn't this kid get hyped enough on this site? Do we need yet another KO thread because he had a nice Summer League game. I will be a whole lot more impressed if he starts the season well.

Teams tend to play all out to start the year and then when teams start to separate themselves in quality as the year goes on, teams will tend to play worse against bad teams and great against good teams as the year progresses as they save themselves physically during the long season.

Kelly stunk to start last year and was a warrior to end the year. But no one was playing defense against the C's towards them end of the season because they knew the Celtics had a horrible offensive team. So what happens? Players tend to put up numbers.

If he starts this year strong and continues the year strong in his performances that's when the KO hype should begin. Why? Because teams will have had enough film on him and know he is a cog in the Celtics wheel that will need to be addressed and he won't get the "Ole" defensive effort that most teams were giving the Celtics and Olynyk towards the last 30 games or so of year

Sure, I am not Kelly's biggest fan. But he is a Celtic and I want him to do great. I just would hate to see people set up unrealistic expectations for the guy and then complain about the kid if all he does is get 9 PPG, 5 RPG, 1 APG and play poor defense.

That's what happen to Jeff Green last year. People were expecting 22-25 PPG and 6-8 RPG and outstanding defense and instead they got the same Jeff Green Jeff Green has always been. And people became sour on the guy.

So let's not hype Olynyk too much. How about we just hope for some development from his entire last year and not just growth over his last two weeks of the season where he was playing meaningless minutes in meaningless games where the other team was mailing in the defensive effort.

You're making a lot of excuses here instead of calling it like it is.

Olynyk has a unique skill set for a big, & he's willing to put in the work to be the best he can be. It shows in his progression from the draft until now. His game & his body. If you don't see that, it's on you. If he continues & health permits, he can become a fine PF/C in the league, bottom line.

[nickagneta]

1. It was Summer League against a bunch of guys that probably won't be seeing any playing time in the league this coming year. He was great in Summer League last year two and stunk it up for the first 3 months of the season.

2. I really didn't see that much of a body transformation as some here are claiming. Hairdo was different and maybe his arms looked a bit more toned but you would think he was sucking down steroids at an amazing rate given the hype that was on this site yesterday extolling the virtues of Kelly's new Superman like body

3. Doesn't this kid get hyped enough on this site? Do we need yet another KO thread because he had a nice Summer League game. I will be a whole lot more impressed if he starts the season well.

Teams tend to play all out to start the year and then when teams start to separate themselves in quality as the year goes on, teams will tend to play worse against bad teams and great against good teams as the year progresses as they save themselves physically during the long season.

Kelly stunk to start last year and was a warrior to end the year. But no one was playing defense against the C's towards them end of the season because they knew the Celtics had a horrible offensive team. So what happens? Players tend to put up numbers.

If he starts this year strong and continues the year strong in his performances that's when the KO hype should begin. Why? Because teams will have had enough film on him and know he is a cog in the Celtics wheel that will need to be addressed and he won't get the "Ole" defensive effort that most teams were giving the Celtics and Olynyk towards the last 30 games or so of year

Sure, I am not Kelly's biggest fan. But he is a Celtic and I want him to do great. I just would hate to see people set up unrealistic expectations for the guy and then complain about the kid if all he does is get 9 PPG, 5 RPG, 1 APG and play poor defense.

That's what happen to Jeff Green last year. People were expecting 22-25 PPG and 6-8 RPG and outstanding defense and instead they got the same Jeff Green Jeff Green has always been. And people became sour on the guy.

So let's not hype Olynyk too much. How about we just hope for some development from his entire last year and not just growth over his last two weeks of the season where he was playing meaningless minutes in meaningless games where the other team was mailing in the defensive effort.

You're making a lot of excuses here instead of calling it like it is.

Olynyk has a unique skill set for a big, & he's willing to put in the work to be the best he can be. It shows in his progression from the draft until now. His game & his body. If you don't see that, it's on you. If he continues & health permits, he can become a fine PF/C in the league, bottom line.

Making excuses? I thought I was being pragmatic

[greg683x]

1. It was Summer League against a bunch of guys that probably won't be seeing any playing time in the league this coming year. He was great in Summer League last year two and stunk it up for the first 3 months of the season.

2. I really didn't see that much of a body transformation as some here are claiming. Hairdo was different and maybe his arms looked a bit more toned but you would think he was sucking down steroids at an amazing rate given the hype that was on this site yesterday extolling the virtues of Kelly's new Superman like body

3. Doesn't this kid get hyped enough on this site? Do we need yet another KO thread because he had a nice Summer League game. I will be a whole lot more impressed if he starts the season well.

Teams tend to play all out to start the year and then when teams start to separate themselves in quality as the year goes on, teams will tend to play worse against bad teams and great against good teams as the year progresses as they save themselves physically during the long season.

Kelly stunk to start last year and was a warrior to end the year. But no one was playing defense against the C's towards them end of the season because they knew the Celtics had a horrible offensive team. So what happens? Players tend to put up numbers.

If he starts this year strong and continues the year strong in his performances that's when the KO hype should begin. Why? Because teams will have had enough film on him and know he is a cog in the Celtics wheel that will need to be addressed and he won't get the "Ole" defensive effort that most teams were giving the Celtics and Olynyk towards the last 30 games or so of year

Sure, I am not Kelly's biggest fan. But he is a Celtic and I want him to do great. I just would hate to see people set up unrealistic expectations for the guy and then complain about the kid if all he does is get 9 PPG, 5 RPG, 1 APG and play poor defense.

That's what happen to Jeff Green last year. People were expecting 22-25 PPG and 6-8 RPG and outstanding defense and instead they got the same Jeff Green Jeff Green has always been. And people became sour on the guy.

So let's not hype Olynyk too much. How about we just hope for some development from his entire last year and not just growth over his last two weeks of the season where he was playing meaningless minutes in meaningless games where the other team was mailing in the defensive effort.

nice post.  youre fighting a losing battle though....