An interesting analysis of the Celtics offseason

[RyNye]

Post his stats for me and explain to me why he is so bad because the fact that no one thinks he is consistent enough for you guys.

Your wish is my command. His per game numbers:

16.9 points /1.7 assists / 4.6 rebounds / 0.6 blocks / 0.7 steals
41.2% FG / 34.1% 3P / 79.5% free throws

Now, let's compare those numbers with a league average small forward (positional average numbers are available via the Box Score Geeks website; they post numbers per 48 minutes, I am adjusting that down to per 36 minutes to better align with how many minutes Jeff Green plays in a game):

14.2 points / 2.5 assists / 5.6 rebounds / 0.5 blocks / 1.2 steals
43.7% FG / 35.7% 3P / 77.7% free throws

So, at absolute best you could call Jeff Green a league average small forward. In actuality, though, he is a below average player. He is below average almost across the board; although he scores a couple more points it is on less efficient shooting, and his advantage in free throw shooting is negligible.

The numbers are pretty clear on this count. Jeff Green is not a very good player.

[yoursweatersux]

Post his stats for me and explain to me why he is so bad because the fact that no one thinks he is consistent enough for you guys.

Your wish is my command. His per game numbers:

16.9 points /1.7 assists / 4.6 rebounds / 0.6 blocks / 0.7 steals
41.2% FG / 34.1% 3P / 79.5% free throws

Now, let's compare those numbers with a league average small forward (positional average numbers are available via the Box Score Geeks website; they post numbers per 48 minutes, I am adjusting that down to per 36 minutes to better align with how many minutes Jeff Green plays in a game):

14.2 points / 2.5 assists / 5.6 rebounds / 0.5 blocks / 1.2 steals
43.7% FG / 35.7% 3P / 77.7% free throws

So, at absolute best you could call Jeff Green a league average small forward. In actuality, though, he is a below average player. He is below average almost across the board; although he scores a couple more points it is on less efficient shooting, and his advantage in free throw shooting is negligible.

The numbers are pretty clear on this count. Jeff Green is not a very good player.

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[BballTim]

There's no way this bradley signing isn't for something bigger.  The guy can't hold up for a full season and ainge is giving him 8 million a year? No way! It's part of smt bigger which could even be trading rondo and letting smart and bradley man the back court.  Who knows what ainge has up his sleeve.  He doesn't seem to be the gm who over pays a injury prone sg who's best skill is defense and open corner 3s

Ainge did give Jeff Green 9mil a year after a huge heart surgery and coming off  a p--- poor year. Also no one was bidding for Jeff.

  Odds are pretty low that no one was bidding for Jeff. Why would Danny give Jeff that much money if nobody else would pay him close to that much? How long would he last as an nba gm if he operated like that? It's ridiculous to consider.

[D.o.s.]

A) That article is not really analysis as much as it is hypothesis.

B) The official offseason is barely three days old.

C) Meh.

[CelticsFanFromNYC]

Post his stats for me and explain to me why he is so bad because the fact that no one thinks he is consistent enough for you guys.

Your wish is my command. His per game numbers:

16.9 points /1.7 assists / 4.6 rebounds / 0.6 blocks / 0.7 steals
41.2% FG / 34.1% 3P / 79.5% free throws

Now, let's compare those numbers with a league average small forward (positional average numbers are available via the Box Score Geeks website; they post numbers per 48 minutes, I am adjusting that down to per 36 minutes to better align with how many minutes Jeff Green plays in a game):

14.2 points / 2.5 assists / 5.6 rebounds / 0.5 blocks / 1.2 steals
43.7% FG / 35.7% 3P / 77.7% free throws

So, at absolute best you could call Jeff Green a league average small forward. In actuality, though, he is a below average player. He is below average almost across the board; although he scores a couple more points it is on less efficient shooting, and his advantage in free throw shooting is negligible.

The numbers are pretty clear on this count. Jeff Green is not a very good player.

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So now Jeff green talent is solely on stats? Whos putting up those #'s while successfully guarding every NBA teams small forward which is usually their superstar talent. His lack of consistency  averaged in makes him average by statistical analysis. Jeff Green is clearly a possible  threat any given night and I'm sure opposing coaches point that out whenever they play Boston. The only issue with Green is the company he needs around him for his skills to flourish. THAT CAN BE A ARGUEMENT!. But by no means can you ever say Jeff Green is not good.

IF you wanna go by stats? Do a 48 per gamewith Ray Allen. Bet He's super trash on that about now.

[BballTim]

A) That article is not really analysis as much as it is hypothesis.

B) The official offseason is barely three days old.

C) Meh.

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[GreenWarrior]

i'm thinking Bradley being a trade piece isn't happening. I don't recall a player signing a deal to be traded without a trade mentioned.

however, the fact that we're "loading up" on guards(or potentially doing so) can't be ignored. it definitely seems like there might be something in the works. i'd say it's more likely Smart and or Young get dealt.

which at this point i'd be sad to see happen(unless it's a major blockbuster) because the one thing I keep hearing and liking about Smart is "leadership" and "players gravitating to him". as much as I like Rondo(a lot in fact) I have yet to see or hear this about him. 

[Lucky17]

A) That article is not really analysis as much as it is hypothesis.

B) The official offseason is barely three days old.

C) Meh.

Yeah, it left me lukewarm, too. I mean, this part:

That’s why this doesn’t make sense. The Celtics, at least for this season, are somewhat cash-strapped. Between Gerald Wallace and Jeff Green‘s ugly contracts alone, $19.5 million is tied up. Between Rondo and Brandon Bass, another nearly $20 million is tied up. Add Bradley’s new deal to the mix, plus the roughly $4 million that will be owed to rookies Marcus Smart and James Young based on last season’s draft pick cap holds, that’s $52 million of the $58.6, though that number is expected to rise to nearly $63 million when the NBA announces figures later this month. Altogether, the Celtics already sit at roughly $64 million for this upcoming season.

just left me saying, "So what?" Talking about cap flexibility this year? Who cares? Trades are Ainge's avenues to improve/remake the roster, obviously.

[LilRip]

Post his stats for me and explain to me why he is so bad because the fact that no one thinks he is consistent enough for you guys.

Your wish is my command. His per game numbers:

16.9 points /1.7 assists / 4.6 rebounds / 0.6 blocks / 0.7 steals
41.2% FG / 34.1% 3P / 79.5% free throws

Now, let's compare those numbers with a league average small forward (positional average numbers are available via the Box Score Geeks website; they post numbers per 48 minutes, I am adjusting that down to per 36 minutes to better align with how many minutes Jeff Green plays in a game):

14.2 points / 2.5 assists / 5.6 rebounds / 0.5 blocks / 1.2 steals
43.7% FG / 35.7% 3P / 77.7% free throws

So, at absolute best you could call Jeff Green a league average small forward. In actuality, though, he is a below average player. He is below average almost across the board; although he scores a couple more points it is on less efficient shooting, and his advantage in free throw shooting is negligible.

The numbers are pretty clear on this count. Jeff Green is not a very good player.

I approve this message.

So now Jeff green talent is solely on stats? Whos putting up those #'s while successfully guarding every NBA teams small forward which is usually their superstar talent. His lack of consistency  averaged in makes him average by statistical analysis. Jeff Green is clearly a possible  threat any given night and I'm sure opposing coaches point that out whenever they play Boston. The only issue with Green is the company he needs around him for his skills to flourish. THAT CAN BE A ARGUEMENT!. But by no means can you ever say Jeff Green is not good.

IF you wanna go by stats? Do a 48 per gamewith Ray Allen. Bet He's super trash on that about now.

I don't think Jeff Green is below average small forward (though he is a below average rebounder). Can I name 14 other starting SF's I'd take over Green? I'll try

1. Lebron
2. Durant
3. Melo
4. Paul George
5. Pierce
6. Kawhi
7. Deng
8. Rudy Gay
9. Andre Iguodala
10. Batum
11. Derozan

Jeff Green is clearly out of the top 11 for me. And yes, those guys do guard the opposing team's SFs. The next "tier" are players who I think are better than Jeff Green but I'd say it's a closer race and more up for debate.

12. Parsons
13. Ariza
14. Tyreke (who went beast at the tail end of last year)
15. Hayward

I think Jeff Green comes after those guys. So yeah, 12th-16th best. Btw, i haven't even included those hybrid SF/PF's like Josh Smith and Thad. Young who I think are also better than Green.

[dreamgreen]

I'm afraid there is no sing and trade involving AB, Danny over paid end of story.

Hopefully it is just the beginning and many more moves are to follow but right now I'd have to say they will be for bench players.

I'm starting to lose hope that they will use the TPE just no rumors on that and that is a bad sign.

[CeltsAcumen]

I think we may just want something big to happen so badly we are now all conspiracy theorists wearing tin foil hats.

DA and Celts might have been extremely active trying to make many deals and these just did not work out and other teams do not value our assets as highly as we do.

If the Celts were gonna get a big name, I would of assumed it was Love on draft night and let Minny choose who they want.  For example, its a little far fetched for me to believe that DA is stocking up on guards to make a move for Love, when Minny could of got the picks and taken whichever player they fancied.

I am hoping for something big to happen I really am, but the Celts are also loaded with draft assets and there are some big prizes coming in the next couple drafts, mainly Jahlil Okafor, Karl Towns, Myles Turner, Tarczewski from Arizona.

Patience might be the best strategy for the Celts.

[GreenWarrior]

I've got no problem being patient. but i'd really like to see us commit to something before this season starts.

like are we going full-on rebuild mode or hanging on to a playoff team that will get bounced in the 1st rnd. for the next 3 yrs.?

i think the sooner we address this issue the better.

[LooseCannon]

I've got no problem being patient. but i'd really like to see us commit to something before this season starts.

like are we going full-on rebuild mode or hanging on to a playoff team that will get bounced in the 1st rnd. for the next 3 yrs.?

i think the sooner we address this issue the better.

Those aren't the only two options.