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Re: Avery Bradley & Celtics Agree to 4-year, $32 million contract
« Reply #255 on: July 02, 2014, 02:54:07 PM »

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Man, there sure are a lot of annoyed fans here.

Anyways, a few things..

1) Green isn't terribly overpaid for his averages, but he's overpaid because he's inconsistent. If he went out and got 18 every single night instead of 36 followed by 10, 13...He'd be considered worth the money.

2) Avery is 23. At current talent level, he's slightly overpaid. Over the length of the deal, it will be pretty good value in my opinion. The way I look at it, if he stays healthy, is that you overpay for the first year to keep him, pay even value the second year, and pay even/GOOD value through years 3 and 4 if his development continues on it's current trend. He's improved his shot percentages at almost every zone on the floor, and that's while playing on an awful team and 70% of his time on the court at the PG, which is not natural for him.

Surround him with better pieces, dont force him to play the 1, and allow him to be a catch and shoot / focus on defense / occasionally create player and his offensive efficiency goes up ten fold.

3) Jodie Meeks just got 6.3 per year. Lance Stephenson just turned down 8.6 per year. I'll take Avery at 8 at 23 years old for the next four years over Meeks at 6.3 or Stephenson at 10+.

4) Continuity. This is so underrated in the NBA. Dont like the money "Just let 'em walk!". Good teams in the NBA that actually develop their talent (read: no superteams) benefit from continuity and keeping young players together for the long haul. We just drafted Smart (20), Young (18), got Bradley (23), Sully (22), Olynyk (23)....Let them grow together and see what you have before having another rotating door position.

Just calm down. We're not winning a title this year or next. The money doesn't matter right now, and by the time it does matter it will be even or good value.

Just appreciate the fact that the team is going about rebuilding the right way, and you get to see a defensive backcourt of Smart and Bradley terrorize opposing teams this season. It's going to be fun to watch the kids grow.

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Re: Avery Bradley & Celtics Agree to 4-year, $32 million contract
« Reply #256 on: July 02, 2014, 03:05:47 PM »

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I have no idea who this guy at Boston.com is, but he certainly doesn't like the deal. He also has a tweet from Jay King saying that there is not a chance in hell that any other NBA team would have offered this much. My guess, both of these guys are clueless. I think Danny overpaid, but hopefully it pays off:

http://www.boston.com/blogs/sports/columnists/kaufman/2014/07/celtics_resigning_of_avery_bradley_is_gamble.html?p1=Topopage%3ACarousel_sub_headline

Re: Avery Bradley & Celtics Agree to 4-year, $32 million contract
« Reply #257 on: July 02, 2014, 03:12:53 PM »

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I have no idea who this guy at Boston.com is, but he certainly doesn't like the deal. He also has a tweet from Jay King saying that there is not a chance in hell that any other NBA team would have offered this much. My guess, both of these guys are clueless. I think Danny overpaid, but hopefully it pays off:

http://www.boston.com/blogs/sports/columnists/kaufman/2014/07/celtics_resigning_of_avery_bradley_is_gamble.html?p1=Topopage%3ACarousel_sub_headline

I'll tell you this much, no way Jay King has any league sources... unless he has low bar to what he considers league sources.

Re: Avery Bradley & Celtics Agree to 4-year, $32 million contract
« Reply #258 on: July 02, 2014, 03:12:53 PM »

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Kaufmann is a SportsHub guy. I don't have a high opinion of Boston sports talk radio, but that doesn't necessarily make Bradley's contract any better.
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Re: Avery Bradley & Celtics Agree to 4-year, $32 million contract
« Reply #259 on: July 02, 2014, 03:15:31 PM »

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If you basically bring back the same team add a couple of rookies.... Would you not expect the same result?

Re: Avery Bradley & Celtics Agree to 4-year, $32 million contract
« Reply #260 on: July 02, 2014, 03:18:50 PM »

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If you basically bring back the same team add a couple of rookies.... Would you not expect the same result?

If they were all veterans and your main guy wasn't injured through all of last season, then sure... but that's not the case, particularly when most of your roster is filled with young developing players (and there still some roster spots to fill out).

Re: Avery Bradley & Celtics Agree to 4-year, $32 million contract
« Reply #261 on: July 02, 2014, 03:19:00 PM »

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If you basically bring back the same team add a couple of rookies.... Would you not expect the same result?

All the young guys are a year older/better, and Rondo is healthy, plus two impact rookies. Yes, I expect them to be significantly better.

Re: Avery Bradley & Celtics Agree to 4-year, $32 million contract
« Reply #262 on: July 02, 2014, 03:22:00 PM »

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If you basically bring back the same team add a couple of rookies.... Would you not expect the same result?

If they were all veterans and your main guy wasn't injured through all of last season, then sure... but that's not the case, particularly when most of your roster is filled with young developing players (and there still some roster spots to fill out).

They need a big man though.

Re: Avery Bradley & Celtics Agree to 4-year, $32 million contract
« Reply #263 on: July 02, 2014, 03:23:47 PM »

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If you basically bring back the same team add a couple of rookies.... Would you not expect the same result?

If they were all veterans and your main guy wasn't injured through all of last season, then sure... but that's not the case, particularly when most of your roster is filled with young developing players (and there still some roster spots to fill out).

They need a big man though.

Yeah, that's stating the obvious.

Re: Avery Bradley & Celtics Agree to 4-year, $32 million contract
« Reply #264 on: July 02, 2014, 03:25:28 PM »

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What's disappointing, deep down about this deal is that we know it means the Celtics are not going to be one of those flexible teams but rather one that is up to the cap every year and hoping for trades to land a superstar.

Those "flexible" teams usually are that way because they are HORRIBLE for year after year.

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« Reply #265 on: July 02, 2014, 03:30:25 PM »

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Yeah, how many flexible teams are scrambling right now with Lebron likely staying in Miami?

And Rondo might not be here next year, opening up his current 13 million salary.

Re: Avery Bradley & Celtics Agree to 4-year, $32 million contract
« Reply #266 on: July 02, 2014, 03:31:23 PM »

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Kaufmann is a SportsHub guy. I don't have a high opinion of Boston sports talk radio, but that doesn't necessarily make Bradley's contract any better.

The Cavs are apparently getting ready to offer Hayward 15 million a year.

Mike

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« Reply #267 on: July 02, 2014, 03:34:14 PM »

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Kaufmann is a SportsHub guy. I don't have a high opinion of Boston sports talk radio, but that doesn't necessarily make Bradley's contract any better.

The Cavs are apparently getting ready to offer Hayward 15 million a year.

Mike


Which, 2 years from now, will be the new Exhibit A as to why you don't overpay 3rd banana guys. 

Makes the Green & Bradley contracts look much more reasonable. 


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Re: Avery Bradley & Celtics Agree to 4-year, $32 million contract
« Reply #268 on: July 02, 2014, 04:03:04 PM »

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I don't understand paying $32 million dollars for a guy who can't make it through the season.

Re: Avery Bradley & Celtics Agree to 4-year, $32 million contract
« Reply #269 on: July 02, 2014, 04:08:40 PM »

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If Bradley gets 8 mil a year then Rondo is gonna want 30 mil a year now.


Probably ...

Asking and getting are two diff things


I expect Rondo and Boston to part ways at that bridge