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Re: Avery Bradley & Celtics Agree to 4-year, $32 million contract
« Reply #225 on: July 02, 2014, 01:52:51 PM »

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Rondo/Smart
Bradley/Young

Does not commute. Somebody is getting traded

Down the road...maybe.

However you still need a guard rotation.   This seems to be a pretty solid one on paper right now.

 :D ;D :D  ...I'm easily amused.

But yeah, we have 4 guards in our rotation, including one who is probably being groomed to play some SF too.  Add Pressey or whoever as an emergency 5th guard and it makes pretty good sense.

Re: Avery Bradley & Celtics Agree to 4-year, $32 million contract
« Reply #226 on: July 02, 2014, 01:52:51 PM »

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Rondo/Smart
Bradley/Young

Does not commute. Somebody is getting traded

Or moved to SF.

3 guard rotation of Rondo/Smart/Bradley

Young won't see much minutes in my opinion or will be bouncing between SG and SF

Young is young enough that I can see him being assigned to the D League to learn defensive fundamentals if Rondo/Smart/Bradley are healthy.
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Re: Avery Bradley & Celtics Agree to 4-year, $32 million contract
« Reply #227 on: July 02, 2014, 01:53:53 PM »

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Rondo/Smart
Bradley/Young

Does not commute. Somebody is getting traded

Or moved to SF.
Yeah, if young is on the list, may as well put Jeff Green on there too. 

Young doesn't belong in that category.

Re: Avery Bradley & Celtics Agree to 4-year, $32 million contract
« Reply #228 on: July 02, 2014, 01:53:55 PM »

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Rondo/Smart
Bradley/Young

Does not commute. Somebody is getting traded
how does that not compute? The best part is smart is there as a sufficient backup for Avery in case he gets injured

Re: Avery Bradley & Celtics Agree to 4-year, $32 million contract
« Reply #229 on: July 02, 2014, 01:54:43 PM »

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Rondo/Smart
Bradley/Young

Does not commute. Somebody is getting traded

Or moved to SF.
Yeah, if young is on the list, may as well put Jeff Green on there too. 

Young doesn't belong in that category.
young is a 2/3. Green is a 3/4. Forwards have post games. James has none. However I agree with your premise that young doesnt occupy a slot in the 2, he will play sport minutes there.

Re: Avery Bradley & Celtics Agree to 4-year, $32 million contract
« Reply #230 on: July 02, 2014, 01:56:43 PM »

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Rondo/Smart
Bradley/Young

Does not commute. Somebody is getting traded

Down the road...maybe.

However you still need a guard rotation.   This seems to be a pretty solid one on paper right now.

 :D ;D :D  ...I'm easily amused.

But yeah, we have 4 guards in our rotation, including one who is probably being groomed to play some SF too.  Add Pressey or whoever as an emergency 5th guard and it makes pretty good sense.

I always do that lol

Re: Avery Bradley & Celtics Agree to 4-year, $32 million contract
« Reply #231 on: July 02, 2014, 01:57:00 PM »

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Rondo/Smart
Bradley/Young

Does not commute. Somebody is getting traded

Or moved to SF.
Yeah, if young is on the list, may as well put Jeff Green on there too. 

Young doesn't belong in that category.
young is a 2/3. Green is a 3/4. Forwards have post games. James has none. However I agree with your premise that young doesnt occupy a slot in the 2, he will play sport minutes there.
3 small guards and 1 wing on that list.

Re: Avery Bradley & Celtics Agree to 4-year, $32 million contract
« Reply #232 on: July 02, 2014, 02:03:09 PM »

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Well, at least Gerald Wallace is no longer our worst contract.  ;D

Haha. TP for perfectly summing this whole situation up.

Re: Avery Bradley & Celtics Agree to 4-year, $32 million contract
« Reply #233 on: July 02, 2014, 02:04:04 PM »

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So we are paying Avery Bradley Jeff Green money? There are people here who say Jeff Green is overpaid.
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Re: Avery Bradley & Celtics Agree to 4-year, $32 million contract
« Reply #234 on: July 02, 2014, 02:07:59 PM »

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Rondo/Smart
Bradley/Young

Does not commute. Somebody is getting traded

Down the road...maybe.

However you still need a guard rotation.   This seems to be a pretty solid one on paper right now.

 :D ;D :D  ...I'm easily amused.

But yeah, we have 4 guards in our rotation, including one who is probably being groomed to play some SF too.  Add Pressey or whoever as an emergency 5th guard and it makes pretty good sense.

I always do that lol

It's all good, no typoshaming here, just thought the typo/reply combo was funny.

So if we assume Pressey's the 5th guard (maybe, maybe not), we've got:

2 PGs (Rondo/Pressey)
1 combo guard (Smart)
1 SG in a small combo guard's body (Bradley)
1 SG/SF (Young)

Seems about right for a full guard rotation. 

Re: Avery Bradley & Celtics Agree to 4-year, $32 million contract
« Reply #235 on: July 02, 2014, 02:08:42 PM »

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Rondo/Smart
Bradley/Young

Does not commute. Somebody is getting traded

Or moved to SF.
Yeah, if young is on the list, may as well put Jeff Green on there too. 

Young doesn't belong in that category.
young is a 2/3. Green is a 3/4. Forwards have post games. James has none. However I agree with your premise that young doesnt occupy a slot in the 2, he will play sport minutes there.
3 small guards and 1 wing on that list.
how is rondo small? He makes up for his slightly short height with his 6'9 wingspan. Avery is 200 lbs now.

Re: Avery Bradley and Celtics Agree to Terms According to Source
« Reply #236 on: July 02, 2014, 02:09:47 PM »

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over all, this is more than i thought AB would get, but nothing to lose sleep over.

Yes, I agree with this.
$8M a year is about $1M more than I expected.
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Re: Avery Bradley & Celtics Agree to 4-year, $32 million contract
« Reply #237 on: July 02, 2014, 02:10:50 PM »

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Jay King also said this:

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That being said, Bradley wasn't going to make too much less than $8 mil per year no matter what. Especially after the Meeks deal.

Always thought $6-8M was the range, not the $7-9M Chris Mannix came up with.  AB rejected a deal for $6.5M before last season, he improved, and the market changed with a lot of teams being flush with cap space. Too much cap chasing talent = inflation. More than I wanted to pay, but hardly a shocker.

 Not comparable to Lance S. in Indy either. He screwed himself with his antics and the market isn't anywhere as strong as it should be for him.

By the end of the deal it could look like a bargain. Players are going to opt out of the CBA in 2017 and the cap pool will shoot up. Players got hosed and everyone knows it. The sales of the Bucks and Clippers should have opened a lot of eyes as long as the players' union is smarter than it was the last time and that shouldn't be too hard to top.

Re: Avery Bradley & Celtics Agree to 4-year, $32 million contract
« Reply #238 on: July 02, 2014, 02:25:02 PM »

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how is rondo small? He makes up for his slightly short height with his 6'9 wingspan. Avery is 200 lbs now.

Not to mention Rondo did a pretty decent job defending Lebron of all players at one point in the playoffs. Size is not an issue for him.

Re: Avery Bradley & Celtics Agree to 4-year, $32 million contract
« Reply #239 on: July 02, 2014, 02:26:10 PM »

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I'm tired of the Celtics paying everybody "fair" or above rates for value. Does anybody on the team not on their rookie deal perform above their salary? It's a huge advantage to sign guys to these kinds of deals if they can elevate to that next tier, but sometimes they just mediocre it up (Jeff Green) and never reach that level. Maybe Bradley can continue to improve and become like a Afflalo or Ariza-type tiered player, but his lack of prototypical height and constant injuries bother me.

I guess we could have predicted this because Ainge hates losing assets (again, Jeff Green). What's disappointing, deep down about this deal is that we know it means the Celtics are not going to be one of those flexible teams but rather one that is up to the cap every year and hoping for trades to land a superstar.

There is one positive way to look at it though, and that's after the new TV deal is signed the cap will expand a significant amount. An 8 million dollar deal today might very well become a mid-level contract in a few years. And I guess it's nice to reward Bradley for the work he put in towards improving his game and extrapolating that forward when estimating his worth.

I just wish that the Celtics would get a bargain once in awhile. It's not clear that at this figure Bradley could be traded at the drop of a hat if needs be, just like Green barely seems to get any interest on the trade market despite his supposed "fair" deal.