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Re: Avery Bradley & Celtics Agree to 4-year, $32 million contract
« Reply #180 on: July 02, 2014, 12:28:10 PM »

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I love how people here in favor of the contract are making Bradley out as some good shooter now . The guy averaged 1 three pointer made per game last year ( the first time in his career he averaged 1 + per game)

You do realize that Avery making 1.3 out of 3.3 3 pointers per game last season is extremely efficient, right?

For context..
Chandler Parsons made 1.8 out of 4.7 3s last year which is 37%.
Gordon Hayward made 1.1 out of 3.6 3s last year which is 30.4%.
Avery Bradley made 1.3 out of 3.3 3's last year which is 39.5%.
And there's nothing saying that he's won't be shooting more 3's going forward.

Re: Avery Bradley & Celtics Agree to 4-year, $32 million contract
« Reply #181 on: July 02, 2014, 12:29:14 PM »

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I love how people here in favor of the contract are making Bradley out as some good shooter now . The guy averaged 1 three pointer made per game last year ( the first time in his career he averaged 1 + per game) .

The guy can't get to the rim at all off the dribble , he is horrible at making entry passes into the low post , heck he is horrible at passing in general. Has no PG ability whatsoever , and often settles for long two point jumpers off the dribble, which is the worst shot you can take in basketball.

You do realize that Avery making 1.3 out of 3.3 3 pointers per game last season is extremely efficient, right?

For context..
Chandler Parsons made 1.8 out of 4.7 3s last year which is 37%.
Gordon Hayward made 1.1 out of 3.6 3s last year which is 30.4%.
Avery Bradley made 1.3 out of 3.3 3's last year which is 39.5%.

I realize it is efficient , but when you are only making 1 a game , it doesn't really help the team spread the court . A lot of times he gets run off the 3 pt shot because of his height and settles for a long 2 point jumper off the dribble , which is a bad shot .

The long two is becoming criminally underrated among fans -- if you're a shooter that can knock them down efficiently, you're going to wreak havoc, especially among defenses that are designed to leave those shots open.

See: Aldridge, Round 1, 2014 Playoffs.
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Re: Avery Bradley & Celtics Agree to 4-year, $32 million contract
« Reply #182 on: July 02, 2014, 12:33:23 PM »

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I don't think Ainge is in the business of letting any of our few assets get away for nothing.

I expect more moves, though.  We just used the #6 pick on a player who will presumably back up rondo and Bradley ... That's a little disappointing even if 3-5 years from now Smart develops into a key starter.

Re: Avery Bradley & Celtics Agree to 4-year, $32 million contract
« Reply #183 on: July 02, 2014, 12:40:16 PM »

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What is the over/under on AB's games played per year over the next 4 years? I think half is a fair assumption so the C's can flush $4M every year for the next 4 years, how exciting! That is good for AB though cause he will get $16M over for years to sit on the sidelines injured, he is going to have ML Carr caliber cheering skills by the end of this contract.

Re: Avery Bradley & Celtics Agree to 4-year, $32 million contract
« Reply #184 on: July 02, 2014, 12:47:15 PM »

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I love how people here in favor of the contract are making Bradley out as some good shooter now . The guy averaged 1 three pointer made per game last year ( the first time in his career he averaged 1 + per game) .

The guy can't get to the rim at all off the dribble , he is horrible at making entry passes into the low post , heck he is horrible at passing in general. Has no PG ability whatsoever , and often settles for long two point jumpers off the dribble, which is the worst shot you can take in basketball.

You do realize that Avery making 1.3 out of 3.3 3 pointers per game last season is extremely efficient, right?

For context..
Chandler Parsons made 1.8 out of 4.7 3s last year which is 37%.
Gordon Hayward made 1.1 out of 3.6 3s last year which is 30.4%.
Avery Bradley made 1.3 out of 3.3 3's last year which is 39.5%.

I realize it is efficient , but when you are only making 1 a game , it doesn't really help the team spread the court . A lot of times he gets run off the 3 pt shot because of his height and settles for a long 2 point jumper off the dribble , which is a bad shot .

Isn't it a fair assumption that, at 23 years old right now, he's only going to improve his shot over the next 4 years?

Re: Avery Bradley & Celtics Agree to 4-year, $32 million contract
« Reply #185 on: July 02, 2014, 12:48:59 PM »

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Bradley + Sully or Oly + '16 BKN + '18 BKN for Love

Re: Avery Bradley & Celtics Agree to 4-year, $32 million contract
« Reply #186 on: July 02, 2014, 12:49:34 PM »

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not when you are a 6'1 spot up shooter

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« Reply #187 on: July 02, 2014, 12:53:00 PM »

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Re: Avery Bradley & Celtics Agree to 4-year, $32 million contract
« Reply #188 on: July 02, 2014, 12:53:14 PM »

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not when you are a 6'1 spot up shooter
Bradley is as close to being 6'1 as he is to being 6'5.
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Re: Avery Bradley & Celtics Agree to 4-year, $32 million contract
« Reply #189 on: July 02, 2014, 12:54:12 PM »

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The long two is becoming criminally underrated among fans -- if you're a shooter that can knock them down efficiently, you're going to wreak havoc, especially among defenses that are designed to leave those shots open.

See: Aldridge, Round 1, 2014 Playoffs.
That plays out a little different when you're a big.
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Re: Avery Bradley & Celtics Agree to 4-year, $32 million contract
« Reply #190 on: July 02, 2014, 12:59:16 PM »

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The long two is becoming criminally underrated among fans -- if you're a shooter that can knock them down efficiently, you're going to wreak havoc, especially among defenses that are designed to leave those shots open.

See: Aldridge, Round 1, 2014 Playoffs.
That plays out a little different when you're a big.

Sure, but the idea that Bradley shouldn't take long twos because the long two is a bad shot is an incomplete way of looking at the game.
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« Reply #191 on: July 02, 2014, 01:03:11 PM »

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The long two is becoming criminally underrated among fans -- if you're a shooter that can knock them down efficiently, you're going to wreak havoc, especially among defenses that are designed to leave those shots open.

See: Aldridge, Round 1, 2014 Playoffs.
That plays out a little different when you're a big.

Sure, but the idea that Bradley shouldn't take long twos because the long two is a bad shot is a flawed way of looking at the game.
This cannot be looked at in a vacuum. A player should be taking whatever they can convert reliably -- e.g. a decent mid-range jumper is a worse shot for three-point shooters than it is for non-three point shooters.

In Bradley's case, his problem is not shooting -- his problem is that doing anything but shooting within 3 seconds of getting the ball is usually a recipe for disaster.
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Re: Avery Bradley & Celtics Agree to 4-year, $32 million contract
« Reply #192 on: July 02, 2014, 01:04:47 PM »

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I don't have time to look it up right now, but I thought Bradley converted a fair amount of off-the-dribble 2's this year?
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Re: Avery Bradley & Celtics Agree to 4-year, $32 million contract
« Reply #193 on: July 02, 2014, 01:05:45 PM »

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the issue with thinking the cap will go up $3+ million every year it that it absolutely will not. yes it will go up again next year by a good amount, but then the owners will opt out of the current CBA after the 2016-17 season.

the NBA players are notoriously bad at saving there money and get killed in every lockout, the odds of that changing are slim. so the 16-17 cap will be ~$68 million but the 17-18  cap (if there even is a season) will probably end up no more then $70 million and the 18-19 cap no more then $72 million.

its possible the owners will fudge the numbers some, plus with the Nets bleeding money the cap could go up only $3 million next year and stay the same for at least 1 season after the next lockout.

Re: Avery Bradley & Celtics Agree to 4-year, $32 million contract
« Reply #194 on: July 02, 2014, 01:05:45 PM »

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Well, at least Gerald Wallace is no longer our worst contract.  ;D