The 2-year rebuild and Rondo

[incoherent]

As far as I can remember, when we traded KG and PP, everyone looked to the summer of 2015 and was in agreement that this was likely a 2 year rebuild, in hopes to bring in talent to go with resigning Rondo. Everyone was on board from the owners to it's star player to the fans to the media. 

It wasn't until the fireworks comment and Love's visit did we all start thinking this could be a 1 year deal. 

Now that Love didnt pan out it seems like it's not a 1 year and everyone is saying "No Love = Trade Rondo".

Well, what happened to that original plan we had where Rondo resigns with us and brings another star with him in 2015 when his contract is up and half the league is a free agent.

It's like we all forgot that was an option after this Love thing didn't pan out we all kinda got angry about it and want to take our anger out by trading Rondo NOW and not being patient like I thought we all originally intended.

Also, next year if we are still rebuilding... doesn't it make sense to keep Rondo if only because he's going to create about 10-15 open looks a game for the players you are trying showcase and increase the trade value of.  He's the perfect PG to have on your team when rebuilding.  In the 2nd half of last year when Rondo got back on the court the scoring of Sullinger, Olynyk, Bradley, Green and Bass all went UP.

We need Rondo next year to help us improve the value of our players... and to give us a realistic chance in 2015 at creating a contender, lets not shoot ourselves in the foot by just trading him away.. Remember he's not Howard or even Love, he's not asking for a trade.. he's repeatedly saying he wants to resign.

We are halfway through the 2-year rebuild plan that Danny set in motion last summer. Lets not give up on it now.

[TeamGreen.dm]

As far as I can remember, when we traded KG and PP, everyone looked to the summer of 2015 and was in agreement that this was likely a 2 year rebuild, in hopes to bring in talent to go with resigning Rondo. Everyone was on board from the owners to it's star player to the fans to the media. 

It wasn't until the fireworks comment and Love's visit did we all start thinking this could be a 1 year deal. 

Now that Love didnt pan out it seems like it's not a 1 year and everyone is saying "No Love = Trade Rondo".

Well, what happened to that original plan we had where Rondo resigns with us and brings another star with him in 2015 when his contract is up and half the league is a free agent.

It's like we all forgot that was an option after this Love thing didn't pan out we all kinda got angry about it and want to take our anger out by trading Rondo NOW and not being patient like I thought we all originally intended.

Also, next year if we are still rebuilding... doesn't it make sense to keep Rondo if only because he's going to create about 10-15 open looks a game for the players you are trying showcase and increase the trade value of.  He's the perfect PG to have on your team when rebuilding.  In the 2nd half of last year when Rondo got back on the court the scoring of Sullinger, Olynyk, Bradley, Green and Bass all went UP.

We need Rondo next year to help us improve the value of our players... and to give us a realistic chance in 2015 at creating a contender, lets not shoot ourselves in the foot by just trading him away.. Remember he's not Howard or even Love, he's not asking for a trade.. he's repeatedly saying he wants to resign.

We are halfway through the 2-year rebuild plan that Danny set in motion last summer. Lets not give up on it now.

Finally!!!! A post involving Rondo that makes sense.haha. I've always said that Rondo will maximize the young talent we have on the roster. Plus why get rid of one of the best PGs in the league and set back the rebuilding process even further. Rondo is loved and respected by players throughout the league and does have the talent to attract other top tier players.

[hwangjini_1]

A number of poster predicted a 3-5 year rebuild to return to contention, though hopefully the celtics are on the upswing after two years and see light at the end of a rather short tunnel.

As for rondo, I hope you are correct. He does often make passes that allows others to score better\easier.

But I confess to you my brothers and sisters that by my own grevious fault I have doubts as to whether rondo's skill set works best with this crew. I honestly don't know.

But I do know that over the past two seasons, pre and post injury, rondo has not added wins to the celtics. Indeed, prior to his injury two years ago the team was below .500 with rondo and had a better record without him.

Nonetheless, I applaud your optimism and hope you are correct.

[cltc5]

Stevens is gonna wanna run these young kids.  Age is gonna catch up to Rondo and he's not gonna want to keep running.  we'll see i guess

[footey]

I don't see how we rebuild without a stud center.  Hard to find them other than at the top of the draft. 

[Future Celtics Owner]

As far as I can remember, when we traded KG and PP, everyone looked to the summer of 2015 and was in agreement that this was likely a 2 year rebuild, in hopes to bring in talent to go with resigning Rondo. Everyone was on board from the owners to it's star player to the fans to the media. 

It wasn't until the fireworks comment and Love's visit did we all start thinking this could be a 1 year deal. 

Now that Love didnt pan out it seems like it's not a 1 year and everyone is saying "No Love = Trade Rondo".

Well, what happened to that original plan we had where Rondo resigns with us and brings another star with him in 2015 when his contract is up and half the league is a free agent.

It's like we all forgot that was an option after this Love thing didn't pan out we all kinda got angry about it and want to take our anger out by trading Rondo NOW and not being patient like I thought we all originally intended.

Also, next year if we are still rebuilding... doesn't it make sense to keep Rondo if only because he's going to create about 10-15 open looks a game for the players you are trying showcase and increase the trade value of.  He's the perfect PG to have on your team when rebuilding.  In the 2nd half of last year when Rondo got back on the court the scoring of Sullinger, Olynyk, Bradley, Green and Bass all went UP.

We need Rondo next year to help us improve the value of our players... and to give us a realistic chance in 2015 at creating a contender, lets not shoot ourselves in the foot by just trading him away.. Remember he's not Howard or even Love, he's not asking for a trade.. he's repeatedly saying he wants to resign.

We are halfway through the 2-year rebuild plan that Danny set in motion last summer. Lets not give up on it now.

Jeff Green was suppose to step up and average 20 a game, like he had been doing the last 20 or so games that season. We realized JG can not be a go to guy...he needs to be the 2nd or third option.

[P stoff]

I do not agree that rondo increases the value of players. Scouts and GMs watch the games, and having guys spot up to get jumpers on kick-outs from rondo hardly does anything to boost their personal stock IMO. Sully, for one, became too content shooting jumpers. Do you think other GMs don't devalue Bass because somewhere In their mind they say  "well, most of bass's points came from him standing at the top of the key and waiting for jumpers". Rondo, indeed makes the team better when he's attacking and finishing, but we have come to rely on him to create everything.

Conversely, I believe a system can help elevate players...if it has good pace, and equal opportunity for players to play to their strengths. If Rondo can be a transition leader and ball- mover, then he will be a great asset.   

Can he play that way...and can Brad make him do it.  Sometimes Doc couldn't do it.

[Jailan34]

It's a nice positive post but it ignores the fact that we could end up losing Rondo for nothing when we could of had something.

[Chris22]

Smart makes Rondo redundant.

It is best to trade Rondo for a young big while he still has value.

[Waew]

this will take more than 2 years. we have to develop our young talent, cross our fingers that free agents want to come. right now its "asset collection and assess what we have" stage.

[TeamGreen.dm]

Smart makes Rondo redundant.

It is best to trade Rondo for a young big while he still has value.

How though? To say Marcus Smart won't or cant create without the ball would a ridiculous assumption. He'san athletic ffreak with the ability to finish at the rim. Its not like Smart was a lifetime PG, no he became PG at OKState because their lack of playmaking at the position. He's also a great rebounder and plays defense at an elite level which will create his OWN offense. I do agree we need a big but for now I think PFs and Cs that have the ability to stretch the floor on our roster will be an advantage of our offense rather a hindrance. 

[thehumburger]

It was always a possibility that Rondo might have to be traded, it was just that the decision for it didn't need to be made last year. And for Rondo to simply "bring another star with him in 2015" was never a plan as there's nothing to indicate that that would be automatic. It's just as likely that Rondo signs with another star somewhere else. I know Rondo likes Boston and would prefer to stay here if we're a contender, but if it were so automatic that he would be here he would have already signed an extension. You can't ignore the fact that the C's likely won't be a contender next year and if we don't trade Rondo he'll probably walk and the C's will get nothing.

[Evantime34]

We need Rondo to play well to start the season. If he plays well enough for us to win games, then he could attract a top not free agent. If he doesn't play well, then we aren't going to get much for trading him and it shouldn't be as difficult to re-sign him.

He needs to be able to finish at the rim next year, and defend the pick and roll better (two things he was bad at last year).

[Randy]

Probably because there's a small chance we get another shot at a player like Love. What top 5-10 player do we have a realistic shot at getting besides him? Also who do you think we go after in 2015? Deandre Jordan?Roy Hibbert? Millsap? Brook Lopez? Rudy Gay?

[Rocco Graziosa]

I think this is probably a three or four year plan.  This gives you a pretty good idea where they are at:

http://www.celticsnuts.com/blog/2014/06/29/celtics-taking-the-long-road/