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Smart/Young are they trade chips or building blocks?
« on: June 29, 2014, 10:51:41 AM »

Offline Mlewis1392

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Just like everyone else I was expecting a trade from us on draft night one way or the other.  I was very optimistic that we would he seeing Kevin Love in Boston. Now I would say unfortunately it didn't happen but to be completely honest I am absolutely thrilled in the two STUDS we came out with in the draft.. Personally I really hope we keep these guys and kick start the rebuild with them. I'm a HUGE fan of Marcus Smart I think he is a freak athlete for his size with outstanding talent. Yes he needs to work on the jump shot but that should be the least of our worries considering  his motor will have him in the gym throwing up shots everyday trying to prove the critics wrong. This kid has overcome everything in his life and the fire that's under him is incredible. I'm part of the don't trade rondo camp but now I'm completely comfortable in doing so with Marcus smart on board. He's a freak athlete, defensive stopper, rebounder, and jumps out the gym for his weight that he's packing on.. What is he 227 for a 6'3 PG? This kid is a hooper and I would love for someone to say that combination isn't impressive cause I would be trying to line up against him stopping him from bulldozing me to the rim. Now James Young the kid is 18 3rd youngest player in the draft so we haven't even seen half of this kids game get where it needs to be. With all the young talent we have one would think that the competitiveness would stir up some position battles and get these kids determined to elevate there game and not let another man stand in there way. I think young kids on this team are pretty much too tier when you look around the league. Atleast in my eyes but hey if they're green tinted so be it but our young guns are great building blocks and I hope that marcus Smart and James Young will be wearing green for a long time... Side note sullinger needs to stay as well

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« Reply #1 on: June 29, 2014, 11:29:08 AM »

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I put a lot of stock into a players temperament and attitude and how far that will go in helping them reach their full potential. Which is why I think Smart is going to be a great player for us and in the league, I'll never have to worry about if he's going to get out worked. I think he has a great mix of talent and drive to improve his game each off season much like the great players do.

I think he is a building block, and I hope Stevens gives him the time on the court to needed to develop.
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« Reply #2 on: June 29, 2014, 11:40:46 AM »

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I put a lot of stock into a player's temperament and attitude, too.

And that's precisely why if Smart works out, Stevens is a miracle worker. Whether you want to admit it or not, there were problems at Oklahoma State - which is basically leaderless on the coaching staff - and Brad Stevens has his work cut out for him.
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« Reply #3 on: June 29, 2014, 11:42:13 AM »

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This is a bad binary to set up.
At least a goldfish with a Lincoln Log on its back goin' across your floor to your sock drawer has a miraculous connotation to it.

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« Reply #4 on: June 29, 2014, 11:46:19 AM »

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I put a lot of stock into a player's temperament and attitude, too.

And that's precisely why if Smart works out, Stevens is a miracle worker. Whether you want to admit it or not, there were problems at Oklahoma State - which is basically leaderless on the coaching staff - and Brad Stevens has his work cut out for him.

Here' a quote from Oklahoma State's head coach describing how difficult it was to manage Smart's temperament and attitude.

?I?ve never been around another player in my whole life ? not when I was a player and not since I?ve been a coach ? that is able to bring it EVERY SINGLE DAY,? Ford said. ?I don?t care if it?s two-a-days, three-a-days or five-a-days. I don?t care if it?s 6 a.m. I don?t care if it?s the day after a big win. It?s ridiculous. I knew he was a great leader, but it?s even been a shock to me. Everybody, at some point, has a bad day in terms of coming ready to play. But he never takes a day off. He comes everyday to win every drill. Everyday. Every drill. I don?t care when it is or what it is. Everyday he?s ready. It?s ridiculous.?

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I can see Smart stays and Young can develop and be traded

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« Reply #6 on: June 29, 2014, 11:52:59 AM »

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I say Rondo or Smart will be traded before season starts..but I also said Ron Mercer was going to be a great player so what do I know lol
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« Reply #7 on: June 29, 2014, 12:07:14 PM »

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I put a lot of stock into a player's temperament and attitude, too.

And that's precisely why if Smart works out, Stevens is a miracle worker. Whether you want to admit it or not, there were problems at Oklahoma State - which is basically leaderless on the coaching staff - and Brad Stevens has his work cut out for him.

Amazing to write with such conviction and yet be so i'll informed.  By all accounts Smart's coaches and teammates have loved working with him.  Is he an intense player on the court? Yup.  He is the opposite of Jeff Green.  He had two incidents in his two years at Ok St.  One was the incident in which he shoved a fan, a fan notorious for pushing the line who apologized for his actions much like Smart apologized for his own.  And the other incident?  Smart kicked a chair on the bench. Nothing in regards to coaching or being selfish has ever been reported..in fact only the opposite.

Now how to you feel about a PG who constantly battles with his college coach, is drafted into the NBA and makes great growth.  In a meeting his performance is critiqued so he throws his drink against wall and storms out.  He constantly questions the coaches moves and battle with his hall of fame teammates, trying to undermine one by pushing for his replacement to get time over him.  Oh yeah, and he only makes effort in half of the games. 

I love Rondo but some these comments about Smart are just ridiculous.

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« Reply #8 on: June 29, 2014, 12:17:15 PM »

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I put a lot of stock into a player's temperament and attitude, too.

And that's precisely why if Smart works out, Stevens is a miracle worker. Whether you want to admit it or not, there were problems at Oklahoma State - which is basically leaderless on the coaching staff - and Brad Stevens has his work cut out for him.

Amazing to write with such conviction and yet be so i'll informed.  By all accounts Smart's coaches and teammates have loved working with him.  Is he an intense player on the court? Yup.  He is the opposite of Jeff Green.  He had two incidents in his two years at Ok St.  One was the incident in which he shoved a fan, a fan notorious for pushing the line who apologized for his actions much like Smart apologized for his own.  And the other incident?  Smart kicked a chair on the bench. Nothing in regards to coaching or being selfish has ever been reported..in fact only the opposite.

Now how to you feel about a PG who constantly battles with his college coach, is drafted into the NBA and makes great growth.  In a meeting his performance is critiqued so he throws his drink against wall and storms out.  He constantly questions the coaches moves and battle with his hall of fame teammates, trying to undermine one by pushing for his replacement to get time over him.  Oh yeah, and he only makes effort in half of the games. 

I love Rondo but some these comments about Smart are just ridiculous.

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« Reply #9 on: June 29, 2014, 12:20:30 PM »

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Rondo is the trade chip.

We aren't going to pay him max money.

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« Reply #10 on: June 29, 2014, 12:25:52 PM »

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I put a lot of stock into a player's temperament and attitude, too.

And that's precisely why if Smart works out, Stevens is a miracle worker. Whether you want to admit it or not, there were problems at Oklahoma State - which is basically leaderless on the coaching staff - and Brad Stevens has his work cut out for him.

Amazing to write with such conviction and yet be so i'll informed.  By all accounts Smart's coaches and teammates have loved working with him.  Is he an intense player on the court? Yup.  He is the opposite of Jeff Green.  He had two incidents in his two years at Ok St.  One was the incident in which he shoved a fan, a fan notorious for pushing the line who apologized for his actions much like Smart apologized for his own.  And the other incident?  Smart kicked a chair on the bench. Nothing in regards to coaching or being selfish has ever been reported..in fact only the opposite.

Now how to you feel about a PG who constantly battles with his college coach, is drafted into the NBA and makes great growth.  In a meeting his performance is critiqued so he throws his drink against wall and storms out.  He constantly questions the coaches moves and battle with his hall of fame teammates, trying to undermine one by pushing for his replacement to get time over him.  Oh yeah, and he only makes effort in half of the games. 

I love Rondo but some these comments about Smart are just ridiculous.

You believe what you want to believe and disregard the rest. You will see soon enough ...

What makes you believe this when his coaches and teammates say the exact opposite?

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« Reply #11 on: June 29, 2014, 12:28:08 PM »

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I put a lot of stock into a player's temperament and attitude, too.

And that's precisely why if Smart works out, Stevens is a miracle worker. Whether you want to admit it or not, there were problems at Oklahoma State - which is basically leaderless on the coaching staff - and Brad Stevens has his work cut out for him.

Amazing to write with such conviction and yet be so i'll informed.  By all accounts Smart's coaches and teammates have loved working with him.  Is he an intense player on the court? Yup.  He is the opposite of Jeff Green.  He had two incidents in his two years at Ok St.  One was the incident in which he shoved a fan, a fan notorious for pushing the line who apologized for his actions much like Smart apologized for his own.  And the other incident?  Smart kicked a chair on the bench. Nothing in regards to coaching or being selfish has ever been reported..in fact only the opposite.

Now how to you feel about a PG who constantly battles with his college coach, is drafted into the NBA and makes great growth.  In a meeting his performance is critiqued so he throws his drink against wall and storms out.  He constantly questions the coaches moves and battle with his hall of fame teammates, trying to undermine one by pushing for his replacement to get time over him.  Oh yeah, and he only makes effort in half of the games. 

I love Rondo but some these comments about Smart are just ridiculous.

Exactly!

Two on court issues, and he's a bad seed to some people. The fan thing was the worse, but the fan was lucky Smart didn't lay him out.

People forget a lot of players blow up once in a while, especially the competitive ones. I remember Jordan breaking a black board after being ejected, and punching Steve Kerr during a practice. Rondo threw a bottle and broke a tv during a meeting. We've heard of fist first on a couple teams this year.

As long as Smart shows up, listens to Stevens and plays hard I'm good with the pick.

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« Reply #12 on: June 29, 2014, 12:32:11 PM »

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Players with Smart's attitude and intensity and desire to win are who you build teams with. I would love to have 12 players like him.

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« Reply #13 on: June 29, 2014, 12:38:20 PM »

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I say Rondo or Smart will be traded before season starts..but I also said Ron Mercer was going to be a great player so what do I know lol
Ainge has just drafted the backcourt of the future.   8)

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« Reply #14 on: June 29, 2014, 12:43:01 PM »

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I say Rondo or Smart will be traded before season starts..but I also said Ron Mercer was going to be a great player so what do I know lol
Ainge has just drafted the backcourt of the future.   8)
thats exactly what i thought when he made those picks.